Comments by "The Phoenix Saga" (@The_Phoenix_Saga) on "Tousi TV" channel.

  1. The ramblings of a puppeted tyrant.
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  2. Down with the fiat currency, down with digital currency. Back for collateral based money.
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  3. And so the Fascists show they never went away - just changed their face.
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  4. Yes... "Mysteriously"....
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  5. I haven't seen such treason be committed since Blair!
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  6. Their masters say no.
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  7. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
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  8. She just wrote the Tories death sentence - just as Brown wrote Labour's with the "Bigoted" remark.
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  9.  @orcashorts5813  he's right.
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  10. Wait till he gets in as Labour Leader and conveniently the nation's dullards vote and he conveniently gets in that way.
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  11. Diversity hire. And it backfired just as people who can see past the rose tinted glasses of equality and diversity, expected.
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  12. "When the acts of government and leadership would lead it's people to their destruction, then rebellion is more then every man's right, it is also his duty!"
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  13. Are we at all surprised? She was ALWAYS a Remainer, it's why she never achieved anything.
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  14.  @janete5331  oh it'd be shut down before it even began.
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  15. Him and the rest of the vipers - establishment demands it.
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  16.  @anauthor1440  No, people buying into idea that voting someone into power was the worst thing to happen to Wales; as it was everywhere else. Labour and Tory - it doesn't matter; when drinking from the same poisoned water source, does it matter what colour cup you're drinking from?
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  17. As they say "You can't put an old head on young shoulders" as such, the young are easily manipulated through their feelings and when they feel like they know everything. Everything a power crazed lunatic depends on when it comes to convincing numbers to see things their way.
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  18. "History is written by the winners" comes to mind.
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  19. "Tolerance and apathy are the final gasps of a dying society" so said the man.
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  20. Well said, but unfortunately Reform don't have a shot in hell - the majority of people are clueless without their puppeteers pulling their strings.
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  21. Or BLM for that matter... oh wait, Starmer was taking the knee for them...
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  22. Indeed, the one and only vote in so long that ever mattered for anything and behold how establishment has retaliated because of it. You're correct in everything you say, but if you believe they'd ever offer referendum on it, think again. And as long as people keep voting in the system, the establishment is going to retain its power over people and ensure "The plan" resumes. If anything needs to happen first, we need to stop trusting the system and reject it utterly.
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  23.  @Dont_Believe_them  When I tried following the science, I got nowhere. I then instead tried following the money; as if by magic, I then found the science.
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  24. "Jews who are not" as it were...
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  25.  @ancietman  there's more to it then just that - albeit that being one of the main reasons. The other is to keep score with the central banks seeing as the pound is fiscal debt based and the country is: like every other, in massive debt.
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  26.  @JH-lf4ql  one word: Dominion. As if to say "We're here and we're taking over. We're putting our mark over one of your former leaders and it won't be long until everyone here will obey to our ways because we're calling the shots" any questions?
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  27.  @twistedsister2568  good to see someone gets it.
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  28. Because their masters say no.
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  29. If he's smart he'll stay away from that den of vipers. As would everyone who wants to drag this nation from the ruins of its damnation.
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  30. And yet you voted them in.
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  31. So Winnie the Pooh's taking the opportunity to take up the invasion whilst everyone's kissing Zylensky's arse? Well somebody pick up that phone; cause I fucking CALLED IT!!
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  32. And you won't get it through the democratic process, that's for sure.
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  33.  @mikehipperson  Common implies it's not hard to find - seeing how far it's taken most to finally have had enough...
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  34.  @chrismith251  Great, now I'm offput from waffles.
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  35. Your vote is wasted - even if they are removed: someone similar will take the reins.
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  36. Well, well, well... so when was it, the likes of Macron going on about the ideas of "diversity and inclusiveness" again?
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  37. And yet people vote anyway...
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  38. We should've just gone No Deal from the start.
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  39. Vote for nobody. Take responsibility and accountability for yourself, if you're wanting real change.
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  40. Exactly.
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  41.  @demonhalo67  I agree with the stance on opposing it - I defied it myself last time and will until the end. Be aware though that it's clear that they are prepared either way - and a more aggressive resistance will serve only as a catalyst for them to impose martial law.
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  42.  @JH-lf4ql  you really ARE clueless as to what it actually means for them to even put on the flag, aren't you. Either that or you're just trolling for attention.
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  43. WRONG. When you cast your vote into this system you ACCEPT the terms and actions taken by those who win. Brexit was enough for me - I'd voted to Leave and I stand by my decision as the fourth reich stands for everything and acts out in everything I oppose, but the way in which the system has utilised that as a justification to tether ourselves to that failed bloc and slowly sneak us back in, convinced me that I shall NEVER vote again. Instead vy for people to reject the system that outright despises us and plays us all for fools.
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  44.  @dustyautumn8780  You'll dominate nothing, but a kingdom of ash and devestation. Repent now, or share your false faith following fellow's doom when He returns.
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  45. "When enough people understand reality, tyrants can literally be ignored out of existence. They can't ever be voted out."
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  46.  @johngahan3530  Be wary of how you fight. You stand bravely enough, but those who really run things know how to use an uprising to their advantage. Voting is fruitless as it is part and package of the system that enables them to act as they please in the voter's name. Violent protest would only facilitate the fear and the offended mind of the majority of people who are still asleep, to which the establishment then will use to justify their authoritarian laws, to which through the "democratic process" will be welcomed freely. To fight is good, but doing it smart is better then just being outraged.
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  47.  @mariogmajner6549  psh "rights" you have as many rights as you, yourself are prepared to defend and stand by yourself; by depending on anything else, you're looking for "privilages" which can be negotiated and given as well as taken away without any of your input. Funny how union leaders aren't ever in the same boat their supporters... kind of like politicians and businesses huh...
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  48.  @zachsmith5515  and why should they leave the UK if they don't want to?
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  49. The what council of whom? Who the fuck gave those gobsheights any say about the running of our country?!
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  50. They don't need to - the populace has been for the most part domesticated to obedience. The select few just get lambasted and dealt with. And so we see how liberty dies.
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  51.  @Gray-zi5bp  Let them listen in. I'd sooner be condemned as whatever label they come up with, then a snivelling coward.
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  52. How anyone could think voting anyone would make a difference is beyond me. If they're within the establishment, nothing ever changes.
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  53. Sad thing is ANYONE with an iota of time spent making a living knows about scrutiny and spending. Transition to power and performance is no different then a job change. Heavens sake - who could seriously in their sane, articulate mind even consider voting for such idiots?
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  54. I'd go on a limb and say a complete removal of the system and start again from the ground up - with each man and woman accountable and responsible for themselves... but that'd be asking too much from the majority of the pathetic and weak driven by their feefees more so then their "intelligence".
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  55. Hoo-ha! The Italians are proving they have balls!
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  56.  @kevingrant7098  And we can't just have that as a law on our own terms... because why?
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  57.  @mwd331  Heavens are you clueless...
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  58. That's what you call an exercise in futility. Voting within the system that undermines the actions you praise her for. You're wasting your time.
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  59. Better yet - all who are pro open border and immigration should be made to house ten individual each; no assistance from the tax payer, no tax reductions, they're made to fund each's medical, educational, clothing, food and etc. A form of the Roman punishment of Decimation - to destroy by a number of ten.
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  60.  @grizzlygrizzle  it was inevitable the moment they began "progressive" steps, despite no one wanting to admit it - over a hundred years ago when the movements began. A broken dam is always the result of that first single crack.
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  61. Attention to detail on the small print: excellent observation.
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  62. Yup, neither is it a government's job to tell people what to do. They can advise but you have just as much right to ignore.
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  63. They never did - even back at their founding based on the unions. And have you never noticed how the leader of each union is not quite as hard pushed as those he or she is supposed to represent? And here we call the Tories for appealing to fat cat elitism; Labour exploits the misery of their followers to improve their own standing on a veil of righteousness.
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  64.  @bertiescunsbutch9323  There's ALWAYS been one, but people won't do it - too lazy, too distracted, too deluded and too utterly clueless to think and act for themselves. That's the only reason why we're in this mess. Again. For the upteenth time in history - people would sooner either bow to a monarch or vote someone else to think for them because "It's easier". Most folk can't handle the idea of being a mentally mature adult in being accountable and responsible for themselves, so they'd rather have someone else do it for them and live their lives in the delusion that they are free: when in truth they surrendered their freedom the moment they put someone else in charge over them. It's pathetic.
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  65. And there we are. CALLED IT!
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  66. You contradict your justified argument about "when will we ever learn" by calling to vote through a system where only the status quo compliant ever win - regardless of which you vote for. And once they're in, they have your legal consent to act however they want because even though you didn't vote for them; you accepted the matter that you could always possibly lose.... and you will You can not win through the system.
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  67.  @OliverKitkat  Depending on someone else to defend yourself; who is not willing to defend yourself - no wonder the nation is in the state it's in. Too many dependants in every regard: most folk would cry if they found their foot in a bucket; unable to act or decide on anything unless instructed.
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  68. Which is not getting much coverage curiously...
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  69. Treehuggers - always overdressed for the wrong occasion...
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  70. Unless the party plays with the same narrative they don't have a shot in hell to get into office. Either way voting in this system is a complete waste of time.
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  71. You just can't mix oil and water; no matter how much you try. Equality has not ever, does not and will not ever exist.
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  72. As if there's actually anyone who's aspiring for power that would object.
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  73.  @mattn5446  Oh it's doable, but the real question is - are people prepared to get their hands dirty enough to handle it and not just be dependent on their government in the hopes they'll do it.
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  74.  @mattn5446  We're looking to make omelettes - can't worry over every single egg. Defiance is the key and unfortunately that means facing the ire regardless of the cost. So it's up to you - do you go out in a blaze of glory or go silently into the night? That's the choice you need to make because otherwise they will make it for you.
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  75.  @AntiGovWuFluLies  in the absence of outrage, there is either involvement, obviousness or disinterest: take your pick.
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  76. Yet it was all foretold - "No servant is greater then their master. And just as the world has persecuted me, they will persecute you"
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  77.  @collier8931  Blame the people who keep voting and think it'll make a difference - in fact it only makes it worse.
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  78.  @michaelbailey8729  Ain't gonna happen unless they tow the status quo line...
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  79.  @thesneak536  essentially that's the way it's always been. Trying to ignore that and delude the idea of being "more civilised" has now left people quite vulnerable to manipulation and as history has shown - when a nation goes uncontested for too long and outsider force fails, decadence and corruption from within via the complacency and ignorance of its masses takes root and the nation will ultimately destroy itself. It's all Eddie Barzoon.
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  80. What few kids there are.
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  81.  @deborahcoveney8846  😏 How naive...
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  82.  @greyvoice7949  its laughable, not because it's comical, but tragic. Ever wondered how to survive a zombie apocalypse? Well now we get to see how: cause looking around, we're in one already.
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  83.  @ASHEN_ONE_GAMES  Well with that I take you have no idea what I'm talking about - if you don't then why not just say so?
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  84. Nor wants for that matter.
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  85.  @clivemortimore8203  I'm sorry, I can't understand you over that bizarre rant of "Seig Heil" that you're doing. So you oppose those select few, who Brits could throw out tomorrow if they wanted, in exchange for bureaucrats across the continent to whom we have no say over whatsoever of whom those we elect in this country have the golden excuse of "Well we'd do it, but the rest of Europe says no..." to justify their lack of anything while filling their pockets unabated?
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  86. So much for that "Diversity and Inclusivity" that's preached about... this coup d'ètat couldn't be more obvious if it tried.
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  87.  @andrewcowman8731  isn't it? We're HATED more then any other country; even North Korea doesn't get as much spite as we do and yet when shit hits the fan, who does everyone turn to? Who is expected to contribute? Who is expected to take on and yet we're discouraged to call ourselves English; we have to call ourselves British and treat the former as an insult.
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  88. Come now, common implies it's not hard to find... and given the state of the majority of people, sense is not a common encounter.
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  89. They're enemies in name only; their agenda is the same as each other and they both know it.
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  90. Democracy has NEVER existed outside of a facade, haven't you realised that yet??
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  91. 😧 Another one complaining about the system and yet immediately chimes about engaging in the means to keep it going...
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  92. Even the Nazis weren't completely unified: the upper echelons were continuously at odds and politically moved against each other for personal gain.
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  93.  @mixedracebajan6119  Tell them that. They carry the illusion that they know everything and we just need to keep our heads down and obey blindly.
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  94. Neither did the establishment; hence they crucified her. Not a big fan of Truss but I do know a setup when I see one and she was clearly set up to fail. Granted she too is one of Klaus' little puppets.
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  95. She certainly helped to propagate it.
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  96.  @Sandwich13455  Yep, which shows exactly what the Nazis were - doesn't it.
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  97.  @johnmcmahon5145  you haven't provided any factual incontrovertible aspect that demonstrates anything other then stating: "it's a failure because I was told it was, I was informed we chose wrong and I accepted it without any argument, what a good puppet am i"
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  98. Problem actually lies with the fact they never had the plot to begin with by design; that's terrible tragedy. Fear is like sex in one respect: it's guaranteed to sell.
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  99. Just another form of control.
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  100.  @robinwells8879  because they'd do the same and we know it.
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  101. Voting in a rigged system - ever heard the definition of insanity?
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  102.  @Ukfairgrounds  barely and they've skipped it as quickly as they feel they can get away with it.
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  103.  @maureennewman905  as did most
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  104. As a Scottish descendant I can claim what one Scot has in their head as Scottish interest, is completely different to what another has in theirs. Why do you think the clans were always infighting as well as against one another? Why do you think the act of union took place in the first place? Aside from the fact the country was bankrupt.
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  105. And YET you still keep voting...
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  106.  @rubberyowen1469  that's their delusion.
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  107. Arms folded one simple solution - border between the North and the Republic. It's actually the only solution to have if they want to remain part of the UK.
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  108. Don't go insulting real women; rare as they are. I'd liken him to a little girl; big on her words but throws a tantrum when she can't get his way. Kind of like a lot of people these days; you see many boys and girls yet so very few men and women.
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  109. So the fact she was pro mandatory jab and for the premise of jab passports means... "no never mind" right?
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  110.  @G-Man..277  You always have options and the one you haven't considered is... NOT VOTING. Because it doesn't matter WHO you vote for, the result is the same: the establishment is the casino and no matter how many times you gamble, they always win. Why? Because you've given them the consent to doing so just by ticking the box and putting it in writing. People have the option to do the best thing and that is to not consent and remove power from the establishment and be responsible for themselves. But people won't do that - too scared, too lazy and too stupid to figure it out for themselves so they'll comply and vote then bitch and moan when as predicted, nothing changes - the banner does at best.
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  111.  @annother3350  Hello... we're ON AN. ISLAND!
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  112. And the puppets will fall for it again.
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  113.  @macangus123  his own keep voting him in; that and left wing politics won't touch him because of it.
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  114. Feeding your kids junk food isn't abuse. Not teaching them to be self dependant and responsible for their own actions and choices IS.
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  115.  @jimmyzoom1143  not that it's any of your business, but my kids have a mix over the week for breakfast, occasionally a cereal, sometimes bacon butties, sometimes porridge depending on what I think is right. They have packed lunches which I determine what is right or not because all they feed at their school is comparable to rabbit food. I let my kids eat when they're hungry and trust them to use their senses but I also expect them to behave and why? Because despite my work load I actually sit down and TALK with them and have them do other things aside from sit on their ass and play on their consoles. You know, the things parents SHOULD be doing, instead of having feckless, pretencious do gooders lecturing on and on when they do worse themselves. So you can blame sugar and all that shit all you want, but at the end of the day you take personal responsibility for your own actions; this world and everyone else owes you and everybody else nothing.
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  116.  @mariogmajner6549  did you even read what I wrote, puppet?
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  117.  @thesneak536  You are only forced to accept what you're prepared to consent. And I reject all policy I disagree with and mock all demand - for I have never cast my vote for an election and thus never given my consent.
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  118. The biggest question is - what are the English, Irish, Scots and Welsh going to DO about it?! The UK deserves everything it's people permit and will endure everything they fail to prevent.
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  119.  @rb1062  that's the ones.
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  120. We should have gone No Deal from day one.
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  121. Good, we can start by no longer working with the current system.
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  122.  @mariogmajner6549  to which he would've turned round and ignored the vote entirely given opportunity.
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  123. I'll drink to that 🍺 However I think everyone in the country after a certain age should be involved in the running one way or another. Patriotic, hard working and loyal men and women all. No going to vote one person to represent a million or so they have little in common with - it's never worked.
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  124.  @andyb4864  once again this "We" I don't recall ever being given the time to ask about what laws were put through for France and Germany just as I don't recall ever embracing the idea that they could do the same to us. Our predecessors did not abolish the largest empire on earth to annex them and ourselves to the sort they fought six long, bloody years to defy. And as for the EU being democratic; which it is NOT - ask Ireland how the Lisbon Treaty refusal went. Spoiler alert - the EU establishment nodded their heads then made Ireland go through another referendum and with the title "Now, let's hear the RIGHT answer"
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  125. Voting inevitably reinforces that system - voting any way is a wasted effort as no matter who gets in, the establishment always wins. If everyone just figured this out and stopped participating, stopped acknowledging them - things would actually change!
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  126.  @ld9925  😂 Tell me about it. I'll have to file that one under nerve touched.
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  127. And so split the vote and have the traitors back in by default. 👏 Bra~ 👏 vo~ 👏
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  128. The Scottish in me is cheering "Get in, Katie; ye bonnie lass!" Seriously the reason why most of the SNP are concerned about this is because Katie represents a side of Scottish culture that they're not too eager to admit. Put it this way during the Act of Union: the Scots had two reasons for going for it - they were bankrupt but also they simply couldn't control many with their zealous religious fervor. There's a good reason why even the Romans figured "Screw that! They're nuts!" And did a Donald Trump before Donald Trump did a Donald Trump... and proved it worked.
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  129. 😂 another from the party of hypocrisy.
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  130.  @dianeparker5993  not really, the empire was a financial mess by the start of the 20th century, by 1937 the Pound Sterling was no longer valued by Sterling Silver and World War II more or less bankrupted it (You can thank Chamberlain for that cockup; a war that should have ended in a few months at most waged on for six years because for the first ten months, he did nothing.) we had no choice but to dismantle. The weakness in the British Empire is the same as in all Empires; too much growth spreads the necessary needs too far and thus too thin. I believe it's abolition to be a good thing for the same reason I stand by my choice to vote Brexit: the notion of imperialism is outdated and excessive. Now we just need to do the same with the royal family and we might actually get Britain to be Great again and for better reason.
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  131.  @ASHEN_ONE_GAMES  Eddie Barzoon.
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  132.  @Letsberealnow82  Speak for yourself, puppet. Or do you need to vote in someone to do it for you? 🙄
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  133.  @hordegaming4771  only problem is; who is there to vote for? The Tories are self serving, Labour are PC sellouts, the Lib Dems are directionless and the Greens are just plain delusional.
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  134. Anyone who wants to stand in the establishment is not fit to serve. Never voted for an MP before and I'm not going to start now; I speak for noone but myself and noone speaks for me but me. And i would suggest everyone else do the same.
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  135.  @annother3350  my argument was based on your remark that we're not near the ocean as a country, not the matter of blame.
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  136. Being pro mandatory vax and jab passports puts a damper on that view.
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  137. ...nope, my right arm's a little too stiff to be jousting it out at a 45 degree angle for the sake of these paranoia driven control freaks.
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  138. At this point I don't even think she has a concept of embarrassment...
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  139.  @jimmyzoom1143  and that's a person's personal responsibility to choose whether to eat it or not, not some nanny state holding our hands. As for parents it's their responsibility to teach that to their kids. If I want to treat my son or daughter to a McDonald's then who is anyone to dictate to me that I can't?
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  140. And which "certain" people I wonder? Being that on such a day, the native Brit will be a stranger in his own country - I see him being the one exiled from it.
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  141. @Neil Holdstock well then we need to do something about that, don't we. We import electricity - how stupid is that.
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  142.  @johnallen7807  and that's certainly nothing to be proud of.
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  143.  @christinerussell113  you did however consent - when you played the game that always goes in the power's favour. Whether you and I wanted to or not - we either had to play the game or be silent and by choosing that over rejecting the game and silence to be responsible for ourselves, we all but condemned ourselves. It's about time we stopped finding excuses and take responsibility for ourselves and this nation and clean up the mess or die trying.
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  144.  @elainecarter5024  No matter who you vote for, the outcome is always the same. Want change? Make the change instead of voting in the system and justifying it's power through the puppets they offer up as "choices"
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  145. They've never represented the working man; they've just said the right things to get bumped up into power.
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  146. The irony being that the only multi cultures they want are the ones that suit them... And yet immediately jump on anyone who objects in kind... when originally their idea was to avoid such biases that lead to being jumped.
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  147.  @thesneak536  They have no actual say, it's the voter that does and when en mass they sign away their liberty, they consent to the status quo and it's those numbers that give the establishment it's power to act how it wishes. Even the MPs themselves are mere chess pieces - a little above pawns in the fact they're aware of the game and strive to take a little slice for themselves once their time in office is over. The players who control them go completely ignored by the masses. One such is Klaus himself. A founding inherited player of the very system that billions fall for playing; believing themselves kings when they are nothing but pawns to be used up and thown away from the moment they line up to play.
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  148. Repulses, yes. Surprises, no.
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  149.  @rafaelgonzalez4175  Oh tell me about it - the facade of care is essentially GONE now: they never have cared, only that they have control and power. And people will STILL keep voting and thus assure they get that power.
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  150.  @vincentlauria7857  And~ nothing~ will~ change~ and~ you~ will~ only~ have~ yourself~ and~ all~ others~ who~ vote~ to~ blame~
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  151. This is what you get when mistaking state owned for public owned...
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  152. Please, his only reason was for Catholicism over Protestantism. A religious cause, not a political one.
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  153. What's the alternative? What we're seeing isn't the declaration of war, but of victory.
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  154.  @joshuacorden4295  I'm sure in a parallel universe your argument is valid; however your weak link is - this is reality.
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  155. And inevitably they will. Because it's either them or the Tories - to be frank though, there really isn't a difference between them anymore: they're in with the same bedfellows.
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  156. How? He's done so through the consent of the masses who voted. That's the rub; the trick. He should be sued for fraud... but who do you think will be the ones to pay, if not those who voted, even if not for him - they've enabled him with consent to the process.
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  157.  @mariogmajner6549  that one aspect I will agree with, to a degree - both parties are two halves of the same arse and guess what comes out in between. The other parties swing from one side to the other, but the result is always the same.
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  158.  @benkhan2908  😂 How clueless...😧
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  159. To justify martial law in response of riots and rebellion.
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  160.  @dianearkley2657  But how many of us are able to see the truth much less accept and act on it as opposed to those in denial and complete compliance? Sure we outnumber 650 In the commons and about 700 in the lords - but how many are we outnumbered in the 70 million plus population I wonder.
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  161.  @princealex3985  Why and with what? You've ranted on and on in this chat and have yet to actually define a relevant argument to strategically benefit such a move - that is foolishness, but not unexpected from one looking to cut off their nose to spite their face.
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  162.  @thewolfcries8670  voting for reform is an exercise in futility at this point: it's essentially trying to keep a building at the brink of collapse together with ropes and chains. The system HAS to go and start over and that means the parties and it's corrupt need to go the same way.
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  163.  @concernedcitizen12577  and by "We" are you going to take part, or are you going to tick a box to have some politician vote on that change for you??
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  164. Go ahead - throw your vote and time away. Unless they're advocating the agenda, Reform will NEVER get into power; not with the current system.
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  165.  @patricklee6206  by a Scottish Queen no less; Queen Anne, the last of the line of Stuart that started from James I of England and VI of Scotland, son of Mary, Queen of Scots.
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  166. There's always been enmity between the English and the French - it's just gone unspoken the last few years.
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  167.  @thomasmusso1147  and you think voting will make any difference... oy vey...
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  168.  @tommyrotton9468  he'll either do no such thing or he'll never get in. Simple as; the ones who really run the country will see to that.
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  169. The very civil service Labour enabled to the buffoonery it was once the Tories came around to do nothing, you mean.
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  170.  @newbienewerson9236  We're making omelettes here, there's no time to worry over every egg. This is an uphill battle and of course they're going to be harsh and try and push us down. But are each and everyone of us prepared to go out in a blaze of glory or willing to go silently into the night? It's a choice we have to make: between what we believe best and what we believe to be easy. Failure to do either will have them do it for us and then we're truly lost. I know where I stand and I would sooner go down fighting smart and take the flack then submit and be conquered in silence like a petty coward.
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  171.  @newbienewerson9236  You see it and you clearly have learned. There's wisdom in the saying "If you want something done and done right, do it yourself." That is the only way forward, unfortunately the many are too focused on being lead; even if they complain about the direction they're going and that is why trying to change direction of the nation via the same system is an exercise in futility.
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  172.  @habilnakhumwa9470  Of course - that's their game plan: bring or cause a problem and offer a solution in the way noone in any other circumstance would ever embrace.
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  173.  @collier8931  I'd explain, but looks like I touched a nerve since my response has been removed. Want to know how close you are to the truth - find out how many people you "offend" when talking.
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  174. Wishful thinking. They won't get in unless they're in the same bed.
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  175. These lunatics can bite my freedom, loving arse!
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  176. Blackburn, Birmingham, Bradford and a good part of London have more then that.
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  177. We've not even been on the gold standard since WWI and the silver standard since 1937
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  178.  @kingsnurglegurglesonthevik4517  no thanks, your wannabe majesty; I'm already happily married.
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  179. Because unfortunately the intelligent ones are in the minority of the public. Were we the majority, we would have stopped the status quo a long while ago. However the majority are divided into the distracted, the deluded and the disinterested: who blindly vote simply out of habit and no thought about it - hence it's said that Democracy is always only a single day away from a dictatorship welcomed in with thunderous applause.
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  180.  @johnallen7807  no, but I do live in a family where most did serve in the forces: three in the army, one in the navy and one in the airforce and all of them have one thing in common - they wouldn't do it again, because the nation has become nothing worth fighting for, or on behalf of. Holding their words in mind is what stopped me enlisting as I would have done otherwise. Let's just say there's a lot that goes on in the forces that not a lot will talk about - not even to their closest. One instance I will share though is a term they say - the UN's military make the Nazi SS look tame. Voting is an ideal - if only in modern time it worked. Now all voting does is legitimise the intentions of the only ones who will ever get into power: puppets themselves looking for a paypacket whilst facilitating the movements that those holding the strings intend - how else would Klaus even get a head turned in his direction? Why else would the mass migration be glossed over but never really enforced? These 15 minute cities and so on. It's not just a lack of doing anything, it's also compliance with the idea that the system works for you when in actuality it doesn't. Most people, who actually bother to vote don't do so by their view, they do it because they've been told to: look at the halfwits protesting these days - none of them realise they've been had and all of them will vote in Labour. Protest votes for Reform are a waste of time, it merely means that one seat doesn't get won over by red for the opportunity of blue and vise versa; even those that do win will be in the same bedfellows as the Tories and Labour; which then begs the point - why even play when the game can't be won? People need to be accountable for themselves and take responsibility instead of ever giving up liberty for the delusion of security and sloth addled self gain. I saw it in my year - by time I was 20, I could count the girls who left school in my year, who didn't have kids with the fingers on only one hand - all of the others: social housing and benefits. And I'm outright frankly ashamed to have been in the same year.
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  181.  @johnallen7807  have we won Brexit? The deal we wound up with is essentially a backstop, we're still lectured by their courts and Northern Ireland is cut off essentially. Then there's the political manipulation: basically the establishment didn't want to leave and so they've gone so far out of their way to make things that frustrating, instead of taking advantage of what should have been a No Deal outcome, they're hoping the next generation: blissfully unaware of the trap, call for us to rejoin and they'll get exactly what they want. That isn't a win, that's them deluding the masses that they have a choice.
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  182.  @christinerussell113  well first of "Conspiracy Theorist"? Thanks for the compliment. Second of all - you know the difference between conspiracy theory and reality these days? Roughly between six months and a year - so I fail to see how you make any point that isn't disingenuous. You oppose the matters of the modern day, but choose to do nothing but play along just as they would hope. And you just don't see it - even now while you're complaining, you're just doing as you're told. "Well we just need to vote in..." you might counter, to which I respond: We ended up with Thatcher/Major after all the mass strikes of the 70s. Then after that, we got landed with Blair/Brown, because people thought "Well, we'll just get change..." only to wind up with an illegal war, mass influx of migrants and the instillation of "political correctness" in the minds of many. THEN we got Cameron/May/Johnson/Truss (Barely) and now Sunak who have botched the economy over their fumbling of Brexit, incompetently panicking the nation over a cough and sending billions over to a cause we should have stayed out of... and I don't think I need to point out the delusion of zero carbon and the cluelessness of the very strikes that resemble the 70s. Frankly I am sick myself of this cowardly indignation of wanting things to change, but no one wanting to take responsibility. You claim I offer nothing more then "mumbo jumbo" well I retort that you offer nothing more then hypocritical foot stomping and inevitable compliance in the hope "it'll magically be different this time". Ever heard a definition of insanity - because one definition is expecting reason with those who don't care about anyone else's view but their own: tried talking in opposition to mass migration to the left recently? So tell me; hypocrite, when the dictatorial hammer comes down, how will you be greeting it? With a hopeful offering of your hand or their version of the Hitlergruß?
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  183. Don't go appreciating scraps when you're being denied the meal for no reason.
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  184.  @stephenrichards5386  that doesn't work for Tesco and it certainly doesn't help us xD
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  185.  @christalmeth613  that would only come about if people first accepted that there is an issue with the system. Voting for any party is an exercise in futility as the result will always be the same: Truss being thrown out so quickly was proof of that. Unfortunately they're indoctrinated to be distractable with little effort - it's only been two years since the majority were manipulated to roll their sleeve up for the shot, before that they were entranced by Gangnam Style and before that, the Macarena. Mindless puppets that they are. The greatest trick in controlling people is convincing them that they have a choice.
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  186.  @lbfourtwenty4163  and this is why history gets twisted.
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  187.  @Scottietada  Tice would regade on that stance if he got into number 10. This is why I say - voters have the power, then lose it once they make a vote. Best way to make change - stop voting in this system and take responsibility for yourself... unfortunately people won't do that, so the song and dance resumes.
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  188.  @charlieemslie7708  "Settlement" the resolution of a coward, should anyone choose to go that route.
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  189.  @rafaelgonzalez4175  You misread my argument - I am all too aware of the false nature of the voting process. All it actually does is give the establishment legal consent over you and others to act as it wishes in your name.
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  190. People surrendered their liberty for the delusion of security and the lies of "progress". They hate responsibility so they willingly tied strings to their wrists and ankles - to make themselves puppets to the state.
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  191.  @motelghost477  If the vote meant anything; or if people had more whereabouts in themselves to think critically, you honestly believe people would be allowed to have it?
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  192. To any "agents" wanting to come to my door - do so at your own peril and notify your next of kin.
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  193.  @philmipants6337  Nazis didn't get in without it, so keep that in mind before you bash the idea of rejecting the vote. Because for all your whining and complaining of everything this government has done - I have more right to object to them than any voter ever could - because I did not consent to them or anyone at all to speak or act for me. And if everyone would figure that out, this establishment wouldnt have a leg to stand on - but no, people are too lazy and far too scared to take responsibility and accountability for their own lives and actions. No wonder we're a laughing stock.
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  194. Welcome to the underhanded tactics of politics.
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  195. Interesting and even admirable on paper, but it's never going to be implemented in practice: the solicitors will be howling in the ECHR whenever it's attempted to be invoked... and quite frankly, they agree with anything the EU says.
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  196.  @lonalxaia  they're one and the same since one uses the other.
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  197. It's over for the Tories this round - sickening as it is, the vote will fall to Labour, if not through landslide by the predictive nature of the puppets the population tends to be, then by technicality in a hung parliament. Almost by design - the economic structure is being undermined and confidence in government is being sabataged by a strategic incompetence.
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  198. Well, time for someone to pick up that phone...*arms folded* because I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!
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  199.  @w33dy86 oh absolutely, just unfortunately unworkable in practice. Better still would be to order the coast guard to pop the dinghies on sight, take the illegals on board; before registering them on a database and classify them as illegal before tossing them into another dinghy and order them back at rifle point.
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  200.  @andyb4864  we? I don't recall getting any say at that table. Nor did any MP even mention it - so "we" didn't vote on anything. That "union" is the 4th reich and nothing more.
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  201. Well in response to that I say - Either you are as right as you can go, or you are completely wrong.
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  202. Sighs once again - the insanity continues...
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  203.  @janete5331  If you were seeing everyone repeating the same mistake again and again despite the warning; wouldn't you be on the side of frustration? Especially when what they mistake in doing, results in the same outcome to which they complain? If I sound pompous, it comes only from fatigue and annoyance of such a blatantly clear and obvious truth being equally overlooked and ignored and because of it, not just everyone making that mistake has to pay for it, but the select few who don't are dragged along with it, me included. Call me pompous, but at least I'm honest.
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  204. Best of this bunch is Truss though I wonder just what caviat will be her selling point to shove us under the bus.
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  205.  @kimjackson4041  "What have we got to lose" more then you realise. "They treat the electorate like fools" You're fooling yourself, by keeping in doing exactly what it is the establishment wants you to. Even when you think you're rebelling, you're doing what establishment wants by voting - because that's all they want from you - the consent.
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  206.  @walkingthroughpixels  And if you think it's the elected government who's running the show, then your "living in reality" is just you kidding yourself. And your cowardly capitulation and submission is exactly why we're in this mess; too many wanting someone to hold their hand. Though with that said - unless the country stopped, you're unfortunately with a point. But at least my refusal to vote and acknowledge means I hold no responsibility for those getting in "on behalf" of those who do.
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  207. I'm to apologise?! Sunak you traitorous little swine, you can BITE MY FREEDOM LOVING ASS!!!
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  208. And even that was based on a lie on both sides.
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  209. So she's calling for equality one moment, then wants to treat differently the next? Me thinks the wee krankie lass is getting a little tangled up in her own web... well looks like Starmer's got himself something in common with her - both make complete arses by trying to be politically correct.
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  210.  @awakeandwatching953  And you're most likely right - given everything being slipped through unnoticed.
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  211. If not communism then to fascism.
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  212. Then the lesson is that force is the ultimate authority. Unless you utilise it, it will be utilised against you.
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  213.  @princealex3985  and there it is - "Better to bow to the EU then England" your only reasoning isn't for the bettering of the country; which wouldn't happen anyway, the Scottish government would simply just have another excuse for its inability to do anything of actual merit. Instead like typical pumped up Scots - your argument is based on one little thing: ought to know, my family is Scottish as well as Irish and English. That one thing: is sheer, pure, utter spite. And not even well though through spite either. The process of joining that fourth reich takes a good ten years, of which all states must agree, with no currency post leaving, a massive debt defaulting to bankruptcy and thus no infrastructure or economy: they'd be better off accepting Venezuela.
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  214.  @iandurie8580  question also arises as to HOW they'll pay off the debt with any currency? They wouldn't have one from the word go the Pound Sterling's a British currency; in an independent Scotland it would be nulled and void.
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  215.  @princealex3985  excellent! At least now you're being honest: Scotland can go with a massive portion of the debt we're carrying that it can not ever pay because it's currency will no longer be backed by the Pound Sterling having no access to the coffers - the subsidies we're paying can go to pay off our own. You're not seeing how you'd be doing us a favor here and dropping yourself in deep are you...
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  216.  @meganjperry9489  and rightfully so.
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  217.  @ASHEN_ONE_GAMES  prepare to be surprised.
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  218. So the idiotic, untalented halfwit who can't even actually cook is having a hissy fit? Oh how I wish I could stand right in front of him and munch on a rich, thick bacon butty: dripping of course, and say "You know, you really should eat something... not that rabbit shit you call food... but stuff like this: a REAL fucking butty!"
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  219. Hard part is finding a real woman - most are just over aged brats who are adults only by their date of birth.
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  220.  @Moleena  far from a bot - I don't have strings pulled by a puppeteer.
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  221.  @veronikaquick6738  well I actually hope I'm wrong - but call me a cynic because the price of liberty is diligence and the majority over the last two years especially have proven how gullible they are with how quickly they fell in line and condemned the self sufficient for disobedience.
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  222.  @clivemortimore8203  easy there Gobbels, ever heard of making laws?
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  223.  @yantomanuel6919  Vote him out? No, DRAG him out more like. Two reasons - 1, He can't run again for a third term, but much like Boris, he'll jump into the next avaliable MP seat. And 2, more pertinent to the matter - the system will not see anyone who is against the status quo take office: they'll nail them in place with policy over policy until they're made to be inept and removed.
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  224.  @rayvinloony2322  Good MPs? My friend - those are only permitted in the establishment for as long as they don't stand in the way of the agenda. You call them "Good" I call them "Fence Sitters"
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  225.  @mountbatten2222  Has it ever been tried? Have people ever taken accountability and responsibility? The answer, is no. Because people like the idea of "rights" but not the responsibility that comes with it.
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  226.  @wallacewhybrow2705  On the contrary, they can only do what they do with the consent of enough people to back them doing it. Were everyone to denounce the establishment - they wouldn't stand a chance in hell. And it helps me because I haven't voted for someone therefore I haven't offered my permission and consent for establishment to act how it wants, when it wants in my name; whether my choice in MP won or not. So tell me, voter - how does it feel to know you're equally accountable for every atrocity and wrong doing committed in your name and with your consent - granted with a simple tick? And you can't complain - you made the choice and these are consequences of your choice. I benefit in the fact that I haven't relinquished my rights by voting, so I've every justification to argue and disregard more then any voter.
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  227. Surprised? The money isn't even worth anything!
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  228.  @Tydurden2025  Ah yes the "gold plated" pensions - gold being ironic seeing as the gold standard was abolished nearly a century ago in the UK and the pound sent spiralling out of control with inflation ever since via fiscal debt. Did the economist you watched ever elaborate just over HOW we're supposed to pay the debt back? With a pound based on what's essentially an I.O.U. that's going to be rather difficult... I say that last bit rather sarcastically since the reality is - you CAN'T pay back debt with debt. EDIT DUE TO NO RESPONSE - The pin drops 🙄
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  229.  @KyleTheDalek  stages 2, 3 and 4 - Destabilisation, Crisis and Normalisation. All in a single stroke; the second stage took only 2 and a half years, the third will barely take a month once it really kicks in and the last will be indefinite.
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  230. No power over those who can think for themselves.
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  231.  @annother3350  "What were you supposed to do"? Either elaborate further; which you did, rephrase or dismiss - take your pick. 🙄 And now you're on a tangent irrelevant to the argument.
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  232.  @janete5331  if it's going into the ocean then clearly our taxes aren't being utilised for the purposes we pay them in regards to refuse.
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  233. The sad thing is - they are.
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  234. Precisely, but have you noticed? In your argument about "Those with lack of care" that's the politician's number one trick: have everyone at each other's throats and not theirs. Rightfully and I agree with you that we aren't responsible for the irresponsibility of others, but focusing on them doesn't solve the issues of those who would put us at odds.
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  235.  @englishciderlover7347  whatever, fixed. Happy?
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  236.  @nemesis-f4b  Facepalm
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  237. This reeks of the Lisbon Treaty fiasco ROI had a few years back - when they voted against it, the establishment put the referendum through again under the pretense of "People didn't know the 'facts'" or as anyone with a brain could see it was more like "Now, let's hear the 'RIGHT' answer!"
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  238. Wow well done, a brat's been put out on the street - now how about we see it done with the rest of the lot and end the farce of the royals. The idea of monarchy is outdated and excessive.
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  239. As a good man recently said - he'll fulfill the prophecy set by Edward Longshanks over 800 years ago... xp
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  240. It's treason then. NO sovereign power can be given to a foreign interest; be it a world leader or company etc, without a referendum of consent. This treaty, if signed without one is void from the moment the paper is met with the ink.
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  241. I say tough! They want them here so bad, they can look after them on their own efforts. I say bring back a form of Decimation - each pro migrant is to be assigned 10 of these migrants - to clothe, educate, feed, care for medically and to be legally responsible for - no pardoning of tax and no added assistance from the government and the taxpayers who rightfully DON'T want them here. The protestor's living situation is irrelevant; should thought about that before they started bitching about something they won't admit to the reality of.
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  242.  @robertmcqueen289  Oh yes the unions - each one run by a misfit looking to make a profit at the expense of misfits... and they despise the Tories... why? Oh of course, they do in name but in truth they love them being how they are because it can be used to justify their own stance and continue to be paid put of pocket by the people who're too distracted to make a stand on their own.
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  243. The delusion of everyone holding hands by the populace and the opportunism for power by those desiring it.
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  244. Eh it was shit before and it's managed to get worse. I guess it achieved...something?
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  245. Truss I'm seeing as another example of being "All show and no go" she speaks a good deal, but we've heard it all before.
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  246. Keep her away from any seat of power; the fucking traitor!
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  247.  @jimmyzoom1143  you make a great deal of assumptions and once again; I'll indulge you, not that it's any of your business how I act as a father. From 5 years old they've been taught to budget, by the time they were both 8 years, me and their mother personally had them learning to cook and to bake and every Saturday is rotated between them - it's their choice what we have as a meal. I made sure they started learning to sew, use the washing machine and clean up after themselves; instilling in them a valued principal of hard work and equal reward. I won't put myself forward as Father of the Year, but she and I damn well do more then most of the wasters who left education the same year I did; a generation of parents with the maturity of kids having kids and blaming everyone and everything else but themselves for their mishaps.
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  248.  @jimmyzoom1143  thank you.
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  249.  @IronWithin-4th  1102 England abolished slavery in the country. A law that's still in the books. 1833 was the year the UK invested a debt worth 40 percent of the Empire's income in purchasing the freedom of every slave within its control - none were ever in England. It took the tax payer up till 2015 to pay it up. Read a book, learn a thing or two.
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  250. Smoke and mirrors amongst the acts of the bread and circus.
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  251.  @davidedwards1336  ultimately it's all about power and filling their backpockets at the expense of the gullible. Granted Labour and Tory are essentially two cheeks of the same arse with the exact same thing coming out between them.
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  252. No they just prove the absolute truth: Equality. Does. Not. Exist. Period. Never has, never can, never will.
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  253. I agree to the Aussie PM's middle finger to the spoilt brat, just not his method. No respect? To who? The Queen? Respect for what?
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  254.  @grizzlygrizzle  there is sound logic to your account: almost as if - if you're not striving for power, you're open "prey" to those who are.
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  255. The debt can't be paid back folks - how can you pay back a debt with a currency which value is in reality non-existent and said debt's interest only increases as time passes. That's the irony - you CAN'T. And it's done on purpose.
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  256.  @23715  thinking you're going to get a party different from the same ilk in the same system that they have ingrained and nurtured. Unless Reform bows it's head and follows the same narrative of the Tories and Labour - they just won't get in. The media and interested powers will see to that.
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  257. She doesn't care - she WANTS us back in the fourth reich.
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  258.  @johnallen7807  Hah! Ever heard the expression "Silence is consent"? The native population has been undermined by the influx, permitted by the powers. And the people, have done NOTHING. For tyrants to rule, good people need only stay silent and stand aside - we HAVE consented to this so as much as we can condemn Khan for his deeds, we need also to blame ourselves for buying into all the crap to begin with - MAYBE if we weren't distracting ourselves with fucking football and Love Island, while trying to live cushty without being responsible - this influx and people like him, would have NO power.
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  259.  @johnallen7807  respect for your service, sir just as I respect all who do - even if the effort is wasted on a nation that seemingly looks to destroy itself. Oh I don't give up either - I just know the method most try and bolster in the idea of "voting" is an exercise in futility.
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  260.  @christinerussell113  and just what government would EVER put through that motion? To risk their own career when their own misdeeds come to light? Yeah, no one's ever going to do that. You don't see how it's all a game? A game to those who look to win at the expense of the many who lose. Politics that we see is nothing short of keeping the masses entertained and busy fighting amongst one another when the end result is ultimately the same. And by voting one way or the other, you consented to the outcome even if your side lost and the worst came to light. Put it this way, if this nation was a submerged sub at the bottom of the Atlantic, would you even entertain the idea that the majority might vote to open the hatch? Revolution? Absolutely, but not done in the ways of the past - as one thing is true: democracy is always one day away from dictatorship and dictators are always welcome in applause when they rise since its not the rise of people overthrowing another that enables it's success; it's whether or not the courts and "benefactors" permit it or not. If there is to be a revolution it must be done with each man and woman being autonomous and self-dependant. Reforming the system will not amount to anything other cheap talk and more of the same.
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  261.  @christinerussell113  are you done blowing smoke? Give yourself a great big pat on the back for actually doing something other then sitting there pining over your circumstance at the beginning of your adult life . I respect anyone who makes best of what they can't change and drive for better - now how about taking that bluster and focus it onto something that might get things done. You've surely by now realised the world hands you nothing and will take what it can from you when given chance; so what hinders you from no longer playing the game that the ones holding the strings over everyone, hopes you simply play in the idle hope of change? I have no interest in leading and my reasons for the use of such a name are my own. I won't bore anyone reading this with long blown elaborations of my own responsibities as a husband, as a father; which for the most part, unlike the majority of the boys in my year; I've been in my kids lives since day one AND been married to their mother since before they were conceived; still married 14 years on. As someone who has always known the value of hard work, I still make time to be with them and to be an actual parent and husband. I've never claimed welfare and never been unemployed and never not accepted failures when they're of my doing. I've worked through then and improved - a lesson for both my son and daughter to take to heart. I've was there when my mother died spontaneously despite having spent the last two weeks of her life in hospital, having had no one actually test properly on her because everyone was too panicked about a cough. I was there for my wife when her mother and father died and picked up the pieces - I could go on but I don't care for any applause for what essentially comes down to being a responsible man - the sort who you seem intent to scorn for expecting others to; using your words, grow up and stop expecting the world to bail them out and not expect the lunacy we see today. I never expect others to do what I am not prepared to do myself and while you call me arrogant - use whatever buzzword you like; I laugh at each one, I call it integrity. What I "propose" is revolution yes, but as I mentioned earlier - which given your inclination of reading other comments and yet seem to have skimmed this part: not the sort which has occurred in the past as I agree - it doesn't end well. But instead, one that simply has everyone in the nation turn around and denounce the system itself because it simply doesn't work. Call me an anarchist - but compared to the deeds of many a state - anarchy's issues are merely conjecture. That answer your questions or do I have to spell it out to you? You don't seem the stupid sort, so thus you don't have that excuse in not understanding.
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  262.  @johnallen7807  principles only count when honour is valued. And this society we live in traded that value in for cheap mediocrity long ago. The sort of politicians you call for and who I would applaud, are NEVER going to get anywhere near power in this system. That's what I keep telling people; I'm game for positive optimism but all the good thoughts in the world don't make for change in reality. Ever heard the expression of the path to hell being paved in good intention? Because I wouldn't be beyond surprised that in every party there are those who went into the game hoping to change the system for the better - none of them have ever lasted, not without being another spoke in the wheel of the system itself. Using metaphor of a car - it's bodywork maybe updated and maintained, but what use is it if the engine is nothing more then a clusterfuck that would cost more to replace then to simply replace the vehicle itself? The engine of this nation doesn't need "fixing" it needs a full blown replacement and you won't find it in the houses of parliament within this system. Too many fingers are in too many pies and the "good politicians" will either adapt to that line of thought or be "cancelled" by those who know how to work the mob. Frightening really how Begum - a literal traitor to this country can be heralded as a "righteous victim" whilst there's a rather long list of truly noble men and women who's names are rung through the mud and jeered at by the subverted crowd.
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  263.  @christinerussell113  those are the desperate words of a capitualist coward; opposing and complaining, but no guts to act. You whine for someone to offer actual ideas through the system and "oh it can be changed" You complain. You're blatantly in denial of being fooled; but then it's easier to fool others then making them see they're being fooled. You don't see the actual trap you're setting yourself up for - think the likes of Reform will waltz in and give you all the goodies and promises you hear them sweet talk you with? Reality check - they'll tell you what you want to hear just so you'll tick the box and get them in, before disregarding you like a used tissue. What i state is the truth, nothing more - and you call it being dense and arrogant. Then again, truth always hurts most and denial is the quickest response. Dream on hoping everyone is going to hold hands and change the world. Dream on and when reality bites, I won't even be bothering to say I told you so. They want you to support them, whereas; call it sadistic, I just as much find it amusing that you reject my stance. Because schadenfreude kicks best when the foolish are the cause of their own misery and they're ultimately made to realise it the hard way.
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  264.  @johnallen7807  and just who, with the exception of the few live by principles these days? I value honour and earned respect but you and I both know that the many do not. Likely so, though given the proclivity to reject such antics amongst her fellows, such a video won't be of that nature. But of course there'll be some cheap display to "demonstrate" how 'British' she claims to be and the majority will fall for it.
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  265.  @johnallen7807  and wind up another Andrew Tate? Cause spoiler - they tried getting him on trafficking, which has proven false, now he's being held in the attempt to try and get him on laundering. Reality is - he's a thorn in the power's side: they don't want people thinking that they might just be getting lied to... curious isn't it that "Misinformation" seems to be the popular buzzword this decade - last decade it was "Terrorism". So I do what I can - try to get people to wake up and see the way things are so they can actually do what they should have done a long time ago and completely shut these power lusting, satanic and evil psychopaths off from power for good; starting with rejecting participation in their game, denouncing their claims to authority and instead have each man and woman be responsible for themselves, just as we should be.
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  266.  @christinerussell113  and you get back to me when someone's given you orders to follow like a good little puppet. I shouldn't have had to give you ideas, that's the bloody point: to have people think for themselves instead of just blindly following the blind fool in front of them, hoping they know where they're going or that they're not going to lead them astray. And here's a little food for thought - something anyone can entertain: if everyone in the country turned around and told parliament to "Fuck off, we're not following your rules" what exactly could parliament do? Military? They're part of the masses... Until then, I'm sure the likes of Khan, Starmer and Sunak have something they'd like you to hear and obey.
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  267.  @johnallen7807  you mean the very girls who actually testified that they weren't coerced and it was all consensual? I wouldn't go so far as to call him a saint, but I would consider the source before judging him so harshly. Especially since his arrest conveniently coincided around the same time he was pointing out some rather close truths.
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  268.  @bobeyes3284  indeed, since the police will abuse the law and it's loopholes in every way they can to silence her. Though when it comes to the point you can't even trust those who you're supposed to be able to trust, then there is no real means of safety and it comes down what matters to you.
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  269.  @ferrumignis  wait til it gets worse: that vile act will be legalised likely within 5 years and when that happens those of us who rightfully reject the notion will be subject to arrest for "hate" just as we are for the perverts screaming "Pride!" Everywhere.
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  270. Either she's lost the plot like the rest of her idiots, or that slip of the tongue showed her true colours. Granted the whole matter of Russia and Ukraine is a farce at best; a scapegoat for what is to come.
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  271. Given both the Liberal Party and Social Democrats had to merge to survive back in the 70s, that should tell you just what a blatant contridiction the Lib Dems are: the irony being that the Liberals were once a strong opposition to the Conservatives, but their last PM lost what would become ROI and they never recovered from it.
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  272. Course they wont, there's no plan. Other then the replacement plan that's been in the works for a long time now.
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  273. 🙄 And you know what Reform will do? Exactly the same thing as Tory and Labour - the establishment will not accept anything else. Vote Reform, vote in those who own you.
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  274.  @AB87-rc9eb  Sigh "More extreme" "Less extreme" haven't you realised that they're ALL the same, their only difference in outcome is the people they target in appeasing. You're being fooled, just like every Labour, Tory and Lib Dem voter along with every other.
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  275.  @concernedcitizen12577  😂 The civil service and government both are just puppets - haven't you figured it out yet? Even if you got your "Reform" in, they'd do exactly the same thing as those who you despise - the ones who really run the country, will never allow for anything less. And by voting, you're empowering those established few with consent to act as they want in your name. The moment you tick that box - regardless of outcome, they OWN you.
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  276.  @NeilCoatsChamberlain  Him and the rest of them - it's the choice they're made to take when they get in: Accept the paycheque and tow the line, or be the one who explains to the rest of the nation why it's bankrupt with a currency that has no value to pay the debt it owes. And no one wants to be the one going down in the history books for that.
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  277. It's too late - the puppets are too indoctrinated in their complacency. Ideological Subversion over eighty years has seen to that.
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  278.  STOFFEL  Hear hear. Too many times, too many people have allowed too many charlatans attain too much power and influence and allowed them to expand too far; under the impression that they'll solve all of life's problems. Government isn't there to hold your hand, but it's also not there to dictate your life either; it's role is to obey the orders of the people, not to originate those orders.
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  279. Go ahead - throw your time away. If Reform isn't playing by the same narrative as the status quo, they won't get in. You can't win in a rigged system if you're against it.
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  280. Not likely. The Tories may very well have an open ticket with the split.
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  281.  @Andy-qe6kk  you speak as if the two wings are anything more then two cheeks of the same arse. 🙄
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  282. The definition of insanity clearly doesn't come to mind to people here... voting in a system where unless you're preaching the narrative, you're not getting into power.
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  283. Which god are they referring? Cause Allah and The Most High are not the same deity.
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  284.  @ulrickennedy4920  Rubbish. It's two fingers up to England, because in typical fashion when Scotland isn't consumed with infighting, it's finding any and all excuse to howl at how "Unfairly it's treated" with one mantra then expecting a bailout with the next. Scotland going independent isn't a matter of justice for the present, it's a misguided call of spite for a past that most in the last few generations have never experienced. And should Scotland go independent, it'll be bankrupt from day one with no currency and a whopping share of the debt it has assisted in creating; essentially becoming third world itself. "But PhoenixSaga, we have resources..." you may say, to which I have only one word in response; Zimbabwe. But all in all I'd say go for it - my schadenfreude could do with some indulgence and there's nothing more amusing to me then those who have caused their own misery.
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  285.  @BrendaRichardson-je2oy  You'd be surprised. A little fear is all it takes to control the common folk - it only takes one person to panic for the crowd to follow; it's why it used to be Illegal to shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre falsely.
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  286. I fail to find any precious reason to bother even considering paying more into the system... those nurses want their payrise? Tell em to cut these ridiculous roles loose and take the cash out of that! This isn't about inclusively, it's about silently and now not so silently overthrowing everything with this deranged madness.
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  287. Both sides of the divide corrupt and undependable? Big surprise...
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  288. It begins. And people will vote anyway.
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  289.  @dmoiseyo8882  I'd suggest you brace yourself then and kiss your liberties goodbye if that "Lobbying Group" gets its way - and given the lack of awareness or simple apathy by the majority, it's more a matter of when.
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  290.  @marmedli9124  You're a fool if you believe voting a new party will make any difference. They'd be made to choose to comply with the status quo or be ousted faster then Truss. The system is rotten to the very core and you're not going to make any change for the better by working with it. The choice is simple - die with your liberty or live as a puppet.
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  291.  @thesneak536  Hardly. By law a tick is a signature to a contract; signifying physical proof of consent for the system to run as it does. And once you have signed it, you essentially negate any actual rights you have in exchange for privileges they say you have... and unlike a right, a privilege can be just as easily taken away as it was given.
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  292. Put me in charge and I'll order the building of the block and the axe and have each condemned, televised as testament to the price of treason.
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  293.  @richarddelgado2153  not under me they wouldn't. Use of an axe and any volunteers who want to play the role can take a step forward.
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  294.  @richarddelgado2153  not a problem my friend - the occasion justifies the effort. Besides a dull axe makes for better - Vae Victis.
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  295.  @richarddelgado2153  I try to be as well. However gruesome it would be - it would certainly put past a message that with me; treason will NOT BE tolerated.
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  296. You're wasting your time voting for any of them: so long as you're voting in this rigged system, the status quo always wins.
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  297.  @rafaelgonzalez4175  You think that online voting would solve the problem? Don't you realise that voting in of itself IS the problem? People shouldn't be voting for ANYONE - visibly or not. People should be taking responsibility and accountability for their own lives and their own problems: not hoping one person can understand the needs of around 50,000 in just one constituency and then compare that with hundreds of others. No. More. Voting. Period.
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  298.  @rafaelgonzalez4175  And seriously, if you think the establishment would EVER go for that - you're mistaken. The government is a puppet - haven't you figured that out yet?! Even if you got the perfect candidates in, the establishment would turn to them and say "You have two choices - take your slice and carry on like those before you, or we'll destroy you via the media and you can kiss your careers goodbye." If your vote ever meant anything, you'd never be allowed it. The vote is nothing more then a fabrication in fooling the masses to give a select few, legal control over them.
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  299. When you have your leaders saying "Oooh it's dangerous, we all need to do this that and the other" then find out they're doing everything they said not to - it should tell you two things: that it's a rule for yee but not for thee and what they're claiming is complete bs. Let's call a spade a spade: the whole thing over the last two years has been a complete farce and the good little boys and girls who obeyed, have all been tricked. A little cough and they're all scared stiff - pathetic!
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  300. Which essentially will bite them in the ass too - as what's the point of millions in cash when the value of the one is worthless? Case in point - a million Japanese Yen - I make a good three or four a year because the yen is worthless. The necessities of economy are being eroded by blind greed. A true jubilee is needed - the pardoning of debt. Only then can the currency restore value and this nation get back on its feet.
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  301. I'm sure Klaus threw his weight...
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  302. Because without the status quo keeping the paper house up - his fortune immediately becomes worthless. The world is bankrupt and the money in each country based on debt rather then a physical commodial collateral. That's what he's a puppet for - a ride through the wave once that reality hits.
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  303.  @jessiegleaves9037  Three simple words: STOP. FUCKING. VOTING. Simple as that. Stop playing the game which serves only the establishment who; in the names of each voter that ticks a box, is not only ALLOWING this to happen, but actively seeing to it that it does! Doesn't matter who you vote in or what party policies they have - the end result is the same: establishment gets its authority and a new set of faces to hide behind. Stop being dependant on the state, start being accountable and responsible for yourselves and for goodness sake: represent yourself instead of getting some opportunistic puppet to claim they're doing it for you. 😐 Sheesh, you don't have to be a frigging rocket scientist to work that out!
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  304. We should have had No Deal to begin with.
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  305. Or why not both?
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  306. Mahyar I admire your enthusiasm but not your deduction of debate: there IS no debating these tyrants. All they want is dominion and control and for us to give it willingly and they will not capitulate for anything less then our meek compliance. Paraphrasing the words of Churchill: When you choose dishonour over war, you will have dishonour and you will have war.
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  307. @johnlister8145 Believing that voting makes change or any difference other then the face of blame. I DO have a better option - stop voting, reject the establishment and start thinking and acting for yourself instead of hoping someone who you don't know, who doesn't know you and certainly not the 50k plus other people they're supposed to "represent" And who might not even win and you end up having given the one who beat them, unwitting consent to act in your name, because when you ticked that box you accepted the chance you would lose and so their deeds - good and foul are yours to blame. If you can't see it, you are completely oblivious and truly naive.
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  308.  @philmipants6337  Yet profoundly, that's what happens each time someone ticks a box: manipulated to accept a system that doesn't speak for you, it owns you. My conscience is good.
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  309.  @Joeblogs111  I do, because voting in this system doesn't work; not unless you're cooperating with the narrative. So, we; as in the British people gave to take drastic measure: we no longer play their game. Have the British people accept something called accountability and responsibility for themselves instead of hoping big brother government will hold their hand and forever keep them inept. So long as people cling onto the state, voting is just an empty practice with the results always being the same, just a different colour.
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  310. Guess he let the cat out of the bag a little too early then they wanted.
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  311. Voting in a system that's rigged - and you talk about non-compliance...
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  312. Vote at all - get the same puppets for the establishment who REALLY run the country.
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  313.  @Valencetheshireman927  to which I oppose to both. The monarchy in any form is outdated and excessive and entrusting politicians to make my decisions sticks in my craw too much given the ease of corruption. I'd say give independent accountability a chance.
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  314.  @Valencetheshireman927  I'd sooner be dependant on myself. That way I've no one else to blame. Oh the Money argument - and just WHO gave them the land to begin with? What, because a thousand and so years ago, an army of superstitious drunken halfwits declared it? Well in that case I might as well declare myself Emperor, because I could get a million people to agree with my stances. Doesn't work that way? Well then why does theirs? Why should I have to work to death while they sit in luxury having done nothing to deserve it? Why should I settle for the state of the country being in a right mess, compliments of the corrupt and incompetent governments over the last seven decades to which she has done NOTHING to correct? And answer me this - what value is the currency, when it's not been based on Sterling Silver since 1937 and instead based on debt? A debt which used as political leverage, yet can never be paid? And when the big crash happens - and it will, what is she going to do? Or Charlie boy when Liz expires? NOTHING. Except watch the surrendering of the delusion of liberties which have been squandered to some more unelected opportunists who will force the argument essentially of "Comply or die".
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  315.  @Valencetheshireman927  I'm talking full and complete independence, not on some unelected brat or self serving politician taking advantage of a clueless society. Which land? All of it. They wouldn't? Seemed to work with Alfred and the like - with Wessex consolidating all the other Saxon kingdoms to make up England as a whole. And as for who made those kingdoms? Oh yes, more deluded halfwits having emigrated in droves from the Germanic tribes to take advantage of the Brittans being raided by the Picts and the Gaelics following the fall of Rome. Institutions that essentially elevate some spoilt brat to let them stuff their faces while we're expected to work ourselves to death. If I were to try it I'd be locked up because I'm smashing the glass ceiling that's their comfy life and everyone else's denial. Musk got his money because he damn well EARNED it. She got it by being born between the right pair of legs. Inheriting from that thousand and so year tradition being elevated by deluded halfwits with no thoughts of their own. The monarchy didn't earn that land they don't deserve it, they just took it. And shot down any opposition. Were i to take over another person's home, I'd be arrested. Were I to claim part of the country as belonging to me I'd be laughed out and ignored. What would I have her do? She's supposed to be the head of state, that's supposed to be her role. But again she does nothing. Presidents get booted from power for doing that and I'm no Republican. I'd sooner have independent countries with people working on their own backs and earning their merit then to indulge laziness and undeserved praise. She's done nothing and so deserves nothing.
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  316.  @myrescuecats3028  why bother when you could easily hire about a dozen people to patrol the coastline with a long range rifle each to shoot the dingys for a fraction of the price.
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  317.  @timmieboy37  1000s of other careers that they're likely never going to get into or get far in. Besides we have prisoners don't we?
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  318.  @timmieboy37  I would expect less then meek capitulation from someone with that kind of observational perspective. The only reason there's a shortage comes about due to greed and a lack of drive and incentive from the mass population. And yes, make prisoners do.
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  319. Does he deserve to stand before our monarch? Does it matter? He's a traitor and she did nothing throughout his tenure to stop him; thus proving her just as worthless as he is. But even long before Elizabeth, the monarchy was outdated and excessive and the day the UK finally gets it through each and every royalists head that they need to go, the better off we'll be.
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  320. Better late then never: finally, some Brits have rediscovered their balls. I just wonder how long it'll take Hoyle's own backyard rebels against it too - should they.
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  321.  @terrenceso1  And there never really can be as Palestinians do not exist as the Philistines haven't for almost three thousand years.
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  322. That's their own business.
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  323.  @shaund4155  then why should theirs pay for say your doctor's bill? Or say you're at work and break your leg, why should my insurance contributions pay for your care and treatment due to your negligence or your work place's? They put in just as much as you do.
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  324.  @sebastiantrias1529  and thus wasting your effort. Reform ain't getting in any time soon: they're all complicit in the same outcome and all voting for any of them will do, is legitimise their antics. Reform thus will either do as it's told by the ones who really run the country, or never even get a wiff of power.
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  325. And if you think voting any other party will make a difference, think again - the entire system and establishment reeks of WEF and corruption. So any new party; if by fluke manages to win power, will be made to make a choice: take their slice and comply with the status quo, or reject it and be destroyed via the media and dogooders whilst never getting a platform again, faster then you can say "Liz Truss Tried" And the voter is equally to blame for supporting the system via voting, ergo granting consent.
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  326.  @marmedli9124  None of them do. None that are interested in power anyway.
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  327. That isn't a psychological issue mate - that's what they believe!
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  328. Please - the majority will bow their heads and obey like good little puppets. The covid bs is a constant reminder of how obedient the majority are, isn't it?
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  329.  @theforestmysticsingh6138  Unfortunately whilst you bring a valid point on fraud and that is the law - when people ticked the box in the election, they accepted the fact the winner may fraud them: they never tick an agreement to them being punished for it. That's the irony of voting - it's pretty much a blank cheque, a free pass and people sign it without thinking things through - you wouldn't sign a contract with a bank that can just take out of your account what it's manager wants to on whatever day, without your consent; so why do people just tick a box at the election ballot to allow a politician of any level to do the same and more.
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  330. Exposed and removed. Voting won't achieve anything - the system sees to that.
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  331.  @andreamack7867  NONE of them. You don't get it, do you. So long as the system is in place, it makes no difference who is voted in, the results will always be the same. Democracy is an illusion to placate the manipulable into obedience.
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  332.  @mariogmajner6549  next time we need a government that throws us into an illegal war over a lie, opens the floodgates that were our borders and instils political correctness gone mad all the while at the people's expense , we'll let you know.
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  333.  @mariogmajner6549  and look how quickly Corbyn turncoated his own policies the moment they seemed convenient to do so. A staunch anti-eu, suddenly becomes a hedonistic reformer for the sake of power. Socialism never works in its absolute.
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  334.  @gingernuts8973  just too bad they're not exactly Conservative as their party name would suggest.
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  335.  @gordianknot6867  that about amounts to all of them in the higher echelons really.
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  336.  @bobbailey7024  put me in power and consider it done. Each thrown in for life, charged and guilty of treason.
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  337.  @bwilliams572  ALL the sides in government are Marxist - haven't you figured that one out yet?! That's the irony of the situation: parliament, the embodiment of opposition of view - is little more then a illusion to convince folk they actually have a choice, when by making that choice they're actually denouncing their right to one.
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  338.  @geoffreymollart7311  And just how would that small cabal of 650 in the commons 700 in the Lords and one royal brat, even be able to stand when a population of seventy plus million not only doesn't support them but actively denounces and rejects them? Military included in that population.
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  339.  @janete5331  And another unfortunately completely oblivious to the con.
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  340.  @janete5331 Then consider this a baptism by fire - read on if you're really interested in how this country, if not the world REALLY works. I don't need to "See the future" to tell you what's going to happen; I just need to do what anyone and everyone else needs to and with general ease can do if they just wipe their eyes and clean their ears: You'll vote for Reform and "Do your part." That's your stance thus far. But the reality is that the vote is only going to guarantee a Labour or Tory victory one way or the other; too many distracted and ideologically subverted puppets in the country voting out of habit or coerced instructuon rather then personal choice and reflection. And what you fail to realise is that it doesn't matter whether you're voting Red, Blue, Yellow, Green, Purple or whoever; the end result is going to be the same. And why? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL ANSWERING TO THE SAME! The left and right wings are two wings of the same bird, flying in the same direction. The opposition of the parties is an illusion to fool people into thinking that Party A will do this because of Party B not doing that. And by voting you've granted consent for them to do it - whether your chosen party gets in or not and even more, they'll do what you find abhorrent regardless of whether they told you or not, because they have your vote already. And for the past century the Tories and Labour have leapfrogged over one another in the same song and dance while the goal of both is essentially the same thing. Tories have you worried about your earnings, Labour make you panic about public services and both are used to distract you while they've slowly but surely eaten away at your liberties and shame those few who have the integrity for calling it out. Yesteryear it was "Racists" then it was "The Politically Incorrect" and now it's "The Conspiracy Theorists" "So vote a new party!" You may cry and I answer back - that "New Party" will play the same game: it'd have to, or it'll never even get a single MP in a seat as too many invested interests aren't going to risk their own skin and lose everything that the status quo has afforded them. And they happen to be pally with the media who only tell you THEIR truth as opposed to the actual. They inform the easily swayed and distracted into thinking; or not thinking to turn in support of what they find appropriate - all the while prepared to back-pedal and deny it once it no longer suits. Think I'm out of my mind? Remind me how long Truss lasted? Her policies were the first sort that could be deemed Conservative in a good few decades and she was out within a month: she'd become an irritant to those with their own interests and the media obliterated her with few even bothering to look into why - the populice got told "She was going to ruin the country!" And they batted their eyes and carried on - letting the stooge they REALLY wanted in, sweep in by default. And we call him Prime Minister as of right now. With the general election coming soon, they're now going to honey people's ear and the same song will win again. And let's play devil's advocate - by some sheer fluke Reform get in, how long will they last unless they played ball with the status quo? I'd predict at best a year: the media would see to that and a snap election would be pushed through and they'd be gone the way of Truss. And all by the very process you're insisting to play your part in.
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  341.  @janete5331  The point I'm making in short my friend, is that it's all done to make you obedient; even if you're not aware you're being told to obey. And once you make that vote, they justify their actions with it. Look at London with that lunatic shutting the roads down essentially and that's just a Mayor. We're all but close to going to war with limited munitions; having given away most of them and a reduced military. We're being dragged back into the EU by technicality and if you even noticed about the sign up of our military arms to Brussels: we couldn't even defend ourselves without their say so if and when it gets through. Argentina's drooling at the bit for the first chance at seizing the Falklands; which since you have such a "great faith" in the illusion of Democracy - should have you rather worried as they voted to stay under the UK less then a decade ago. If we're restricted by Brussels and they've already declared that Argentina have a claim - well that ought to show you the farce of democracy. They distract you with the idea that you have a say; it's a trick to have you give up your actual say and let them have control so you think you can get on with your life. But that's not how it works - they're slowly but surely tightening the grip of power on everyone and once the fiscal debt system of which the pound, dollar and Euro and more depend on collapses: and it will be very soon - especially when BRICS (A Gold backed monetary union between Brazil, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and just recently South Africa signed up) gets launched - the west is going to be made to realise how bankrupt we really are. And when that happens - tyranny will waltz on in and be welcomed by the voters by thunderous applause, because the alternative will be that unbearable by the majority that they'll accept any quick fix. "You will own nothing and be happy" heard that one? That's what this status quo is leading to and voting is simply giving government consent to continue constructing toward it. That Net Zero and Digital Currency are part and parcel. If you can't see it now, or if everyone else don't figure this out soon enough then there is no helping you, or any of us. So go ahead - vote your "Reform" party if it makes you feel better but when the next government gets in and makes things worse - and it will; you will have NO right to complain. I'm not elevated above anyone else in any way other then the fact I've blotted out the distractions and ignore the mockery and anyone can do it. Questions? I'll answer any.
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  342. I said she's the best of what's left - I never said she was the best option. Kemi is out of the running more or less. So who else would you have? The traitorous Sunak?
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  343. Almost as if they're trying to get booted out at the next GE? So that the pendulum can continue to swing and the agenda resuming onwards?
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  344. Oh come on... you really think Reform will be any different??? You need to realise that those who really run the country will not allow an upstart party change the direction of things. Democracy isn't a choice on who runs the country, but the face of who the "plebs" see when it comes to it. It's all a ruse to trick you into ticking a box and thus sign your consent to allow the establishment to act how it wants and when it wants in your name. No matter what party gets in, they ALL answer to the same masters.
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  345.  @christineholloway8321  I've done so time and again on the matter with you, Christine. But I'll happily do so again. Let's just say by some sheer fluke Reform get in - majority government with a whole new collective who have never been in politics or involved with those who have and the leader is made PM. He and the rest of the MPs are then sat down and told the following "Right, you are now officially government, but we're the ones who call the shots and we also decide the direction of the country" this being establishment including the monarchy, business enterprise, media and so on, who all answer to the likes of Klaus and his ilk. It continues "With this said, we have a set plan of what we're going to do with the country and the rest of the world going forward, so you have a choice. You can either choose to play ball, do as you're told while putting up the facade with the opposition, made up of the same and take your slice. Or you can choose to try and do things your way and, let's be honest - you saw what we did with Truss and what the Americans did with Trump. We will utterly destroy you in the minds of the people via the media and you will never see a job in anything meaningful ever again." That's just those who aren't already affiliated with politics, those who are and are part of the main parties and the others including Reform and so forth - already know the score and they know the game is rigged and who their boss is. No matter who the country votes for, the government and opposition answer to the same master and it isn't the people who vote for them. The vote is an utter con - built to keep people under control, drawn out so as to get as many people to legally sign permission for establishment to act as it pleases in their name - with a tick. Get it yet, Christine - or does this reality check just not match up with the illusion you want to uphold by crying "Join Reform! Vote Reform!"
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  346.  @JoannecTaylor-hu8yh  Vote no one if you value your freedom.
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  347.  @12235117657598502586  care to clarify your remark, because it makes no sense.
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  348. Hungry people tend to make for poor resistance actually - revolution is 'permitted' by the courts when their current status quo no longer suits their interest and more often then not; the successor of the fallen state tends to be just as, if not worse then the one that proceeded it. Looking at it reasonably, both the silently consenting and the outright rebelling are walking blindly into their trap.
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  349. And with that knowledge - what would the majority of people do about it? Absolutely nothing. Fucking domesticated, thoughtless cowards!
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  350.  @HadEnough79  And wind up with another version of the establishment's puppets whilst having signed away my own personal liberties by voting for my trouble? Not a snowball's chance. I know the nature of the game and I'm not playing.
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  351. Fat chance of that happening; I gave up putting my faith in people the moment I learned the nature of the majority as well as the minority that cause the problem.
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  352. By. GOD. it's only taken three hundred years but FINALLY - A king has actually DONE something!
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  353. I don't think even Kevin Bacon will be able to get them out of this mess.
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  354.  @samanthaclugston6685  Facepalm clueless...
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  355. @Health is wealth precisely, they just went with Brexit to assure their jobs and back pockets. We should have gone for No Deal to begin with, but then again what do we know.
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  356.  @evolassunglasses4673  do not be fooled though - Liberalism: true Liberalism has nothing to do with Socialism. Today the term has had its meaning twisted to justify descent into Socialism - in short those claiming to be Liberals are mere pretenders to sway the crowd.
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  357. Oh I agree. However who amongst the crowd would actually do the job? The best people to run the country aren't clamoring to do so why? - Physically, because they've a lot of things on their plate already. Emotionally, because they haven't been corrupted by the politic (that's not including the perverts and delusional; we know the sort I'm talking about) And Mentally, because they all know it's bullshit.
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  358. It's what will happen to you and the rest of the country if people continue to sit back and do nothing. And if you think the vote will make a difference; think again. The system is rigged in the favor of the establishment and all the parties either adhere to its path or find themselves in obscurity. Worse still, whoever gets in thus then acts out; good or foul with the consent of ALL who voted - be it those who voted for each candidate or not; in favor of the voter or not. There's only one person who can give you your rights: YOU.
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  359.  @kerryberry5786  and that's India's concern, not ours.
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  360. Consider self dependance and accountability over either a Republic or Constituonal Monarchy - be in charge of yourself.
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  361. Either it's a bid to claim more power or the leapfrogging between sides is due to continue. The Tories will not get the same majority as last time and with the risk of a hung parliament, all other parties will side with Labour and their big kicker - another fucking referendum which they'll rig in their favor and back into that fourth reich we go.
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  362. It's called a very good publicist. If they lose "They rigged the game so we need to impeach and investigate!" When they win by rigging "The electoral process is incorruptible, to think otherwise is to undermine our integrity. The thought process of "conspiracy theorists"."
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  363. As I say, a form of Decimation: each can be assigned ten of them. And when shit hits the fan and they start pleading for the fact they can't actually live, those ten are deported and the loudmouthed hypocrite is publicly profiled as such - no longer acknowledged an opinion on the matter of migration. Any pro migrant who refuses to participate is public profiled the same way. After all - no one has time for hypocrites.
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  364.  @Jezza_One  only for as long as the people hold them to account - once complacency kicks in history has a penchant of repeating itself.
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  365. As does the country; it's leaders are chosen from amongst its people and so those we elect reflect the people of this country. If these are the best we can amass then what does that say about us?
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  366.  @MrJC1  so then who do you vote?
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  367.  @thewolfcries8670  hardly - the wheel just keeps on turning.
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  368.  @MrJC1  and on the wheel goes.
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  369.  @thewolfcries8670  you don't get it, do you. Vote reform and you'll either get Tory or Labour by technicality.
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  370. Indeed - the wars in Ukraine and now Israel are being used to distract people. As the best way to conquer a people is from within when they're being distracted.
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  371.  @garyc7464  and you actually believe them... how precious.
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  372. Because that's too direct language; too close to the truth and rings hard in the head. I remember reading and listening to the comedian George Carlin about how language each generation takes the humanity out of each symptom. First we had Shell Shock, then it became Battle Fatigue, then Operational Exhaustion and now we have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The humanity is taken out completely as if to lessen the symptom, but does it? We don't have broke people, we have Financially Unable. We don't have old people, we have Senior Citizens. Next we're going to have R**e Victims become Unwilling Sperm Depositories. It's ridiculous.
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  373.  @ASHEN_ONE_GAMES  Eddie Barzoon is a fictional character from a film - he'd been nursed through two divorces, a rehab and a pregnant receptionist. Having lived his life in pursuit of his own impulsive direction, he finally died when he was mugged by two homeless men who wanted his watch that he refused even then to surrender. Now how does that compare with the matter at hand? Because, paraphrasing the speech within that film to pertain to reality at hand - you watch Barzoon bounce around like a game; a wind up toy. Like 250 lbs of preverbrial greed on two feet - his own special creature. We're in the next thousand years and take a good look at ole Eddie; because HE is the posterchild of this new millennium. People like him, like the majority you see, it's no surprise where they come from. We live in a point of time where the human mind has been sharpened to the point that we can split the atom with the push of a button via a simple desire, we've built egos the size of cathedrals, fiber optically connected the entirety of mankind to every eager impulse. We take even the dullest and deluded of dreams and we drape them with money coloured fantasies, until each man and woman becomes in their own mind their own Emperor - their own god and where can we go from there? And as we're each jumping through one delusional hoop to the next - who's keeping their eyes on those in a lazily elected place in power? As their powers expand, our rights traded for privileges that are just so quickly retracted; even the simplest objection to the status quo and narrative is met with stern constanation and mockery - and it just keeps going faster and faster. You're not given chance to think, no time to prepare: it's "For your safety and the security of the future" when the reality is - there IS no future. We're all on a runaway train and just in the UK alone, we have 70 million plus Eddie Barzoons all towing into their 'future' - every one of them desperate, eager to stab even their near and dearest in the back, wipe their hands clean of the evidence before reaching out to their pristine, fibre optically connected device, to tote up their billable hours and brownie points. And then it hits home: YOU'VE got to pay your own way Eddie - you're a little too late in the game to buy out now. With a belly too full, a body too sore and eyes bloodshot, you're crying out with what little air you can gather in your lungs for help but guess what? There's no one there! You're all alone now Eddie - you've become your own "SPECIAL" little creature. And the irony being when the shit hits the fan, they'll blame everyone but themselves for having rolled the dice once too often. In the end we're letting ourselves down.
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  374. Our men won't turn on the people. As such they'll send in the UN military and their antics are not reasonable.
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  375.  @Letsberealnow82  See mine.
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  376. Well that's one down... how many members of that benefit scrounging family are there?... to go.
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  377. They have no voice because so few have a mind and even fewer have any balls. Tell the people about how to run the nation, they stare at you blankly. Mention something about Love Island or Man United and suddenly they're full of philosophy.
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  378.  @kizzagt  not hear about it? Not surprising as it's not "convenient" for mainstream to cover it. They don't want to inflame the rage of the rightfully inhabitants to rise up and swell in number.
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  379.  @patcoughlan5638  economy? What economy? When you look at it realistically: there's no such thing as an economy in the world today - no country runs on the gold or silver standard and quantative easing has completely devalued any old money. Essentially the world is bankrupt and run on debt which needs to be repaid: but how can you pay back a debt when the money is backed BY said debt? Using economic standing is just a scapegoat bailout to pass onto the ones asking the questions but not understanding the scope of the issue. That's why they're still pushing deals, that's why they'll never fix this mass migration issue and that's why they keep eroding the people's liberties.
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  380. Just use a rope - it's reusable and stops them ever doing such atrocity again.
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  381. That Omitted due to mass profanity and every other one of his fellow Once again omitted can bite my freedom loving ass!
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  382. When words become impossible to speak, violence becomes the norm - bad move.
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  383. I suppose Nazis never change their colours... so I have only one thing to say to Hestletine: who the FUCK are you!?
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  384. Why have a leader? Can't people think and act for themselves? No wonder we get the "leaders" we get - the ones we deserve because most idiots couldn't devise an idea if it smacked them in the face.
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  385.  @StooFras-TheFiresofHell.  you would get either of them ANYWAY. you can not win a vote in a rigged system. Want change? Remove the system by any means and I do mean ANY - because otherwise your votes are a wasted effort.
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  386.  @colin2271  oh I have looked and I have learned - the game is rigged and the outcome always the same. The system has to go before any vote becomes meaningful.
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  387.  @lauradavies5346  and most won't - they vote by habit and disinterest. Always.
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  388.  @an-albumhole4400  and clearly you haven't heard of either an exercise in futility or the definition of insanity - sure you and a few thousand might vote for a new party - now try convincing a good majority of the remaining 70 million why don't you? Unless Reform is in the same league as both the lunatics in the Tories and Labour - they simply won't get the people's vote. End of.
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  389.  @resiplayerz  and has Brexit actually won? In name yes, but note all the machinations in place to have us slow right back in place like the ones pulling the strings want. Labour had screwed up so much that everyone ran to the Tories - just as they had to Labour 13 years prior. And you want to try the argument of coalition? To counter, the Tories still got in power due to the Lib Dems and was either them or Labour - you split the vote, one of the two largest still wins. Thus - the vote is wasted. A trap indeed, but one that is always going to spring; because how many people can you openly speak to about political matters without the isms and phobes along with all the other catchphrases, getting used in response to your well founded points? The system has a methodology and will work to keep it: if Reform get in it will only be because it's made up of disguised Tories and Socialists looking to further delude people into accepting the idea the system works. Mark Twain said it best: far easier to fool a man, then to make him realise he's been fooled, with the public the best way of keeping them under lock and key was convincing them they have a choice. I don't fall for the trap - I call for the dismantling of it and the way to do it is to stop depending on parties to improve things: do it yourself, dismantle the system and don't play the game by their rules, play by your own.
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  390.  @Thurgosh_OG  why do you think theyre obsessed with trying to lower the age of voting? And the majority of those who can vote, are consistent with the disinterested who vote in habit so long as football, soaps and Big Brother isn't disturbed, the converted zealots with an obsessive compulsion to moral posture and the self serving who are easily bought with benefits and the like: take your pick and best of luck cause short of the hand of Elohim himself, you won't have a shot in hell in convincing them to vote for anything else. And even by some sheer fluke you got Reform in, good luck guaranteeing me they won't be marching to the same drum: I wouldn't bet on it.
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  391.  @Mikellewe  if it doesn't win an election, the same sort still get in and what changes? NOTHING! I've already stated what it takes to get things done but like clockwork, people keep clinging to the idea of a miracle new party - they tried that in Germany back a hundred years ago, look who they ended up with. Too clueless and unprepared to do the dirty work themselves to do what must be done to clean up this mess.
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  392.  @resiplayerz  and it's this kind of backstabbing in the system that makes it completely unworkable. Bear in mind that push that Cameron got can be just as used against us as it can for us. Need I point to how many people lined up and rolled up their sleeves while hiding in meaningless fear over two years: who the hell ever voted among us for that?! A vote by the public should stand by the public - not some opportunists technicality. "In any form" is a lousy argument and doesn't stand - either we have Brexit or we don't and again we have it only in name. Give it a few more months and with the deliberate incompetence of this current Tory party, the masses will vote for Labour and guess what will be overturned with the sob story "Did any of you foresee this? Let's try again and choose wisely" basically both sides of the aisle have worked towards it and the majority of idiots will fall for it, hook line and sinker, through the very kind of backhanded tactics you revere. Happened with Brexit and it'll happen by some sheer fluke if another party - filled with former Tories and Socialists may I add, gets in. They're all in cahoots - get it yet? It's another ploy to make you ignore the elephant in the room. The system itself Does. Not. Work! Remember the cardinal rule in casino: the house ALWAYS wins because fools and their money are so easily parted and the greatest fools are the greediest.
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  393.  @resiplayerz  and there's just one, minor detail you're overlooking: there's still thousands of EU laws in the UK'S... and no push from the mob to remove them. The majority of people are too focused on not losing their benefits and the likes of Labour are capitalising on it. They're too disillusioned by strikes, which are what the Tories are counting on. As long as those laws remain and the amount of backhanders remain in the echelons, Brexit is only in name when it should be absolute and final.
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  394.  @juj298  I don't, which is why I say this with much confidence and equally as much frustration. Reform will either get in line with the status quo or never even get a sniff of power and that's not conjecture; that's just a fact. Made up of defectors of both cheeks of the same arse, the party is inevitably going to do what it takes if theyre serious and that means playing the the game; the game in which the voter ALWAYS loses. Their vote isn't a reflection of choice - it's the illusion of it. People are doing squat, easily manipulated and deluded - don't think so? Wasn't that long ago they were all rolling up their sleeves while crying if they forgot their mask, before that they were dancing to Gangnam Style and before that the Macarena. If you can't see this then you're an obstinate fool; even if you vote for Reform, you're doing what the establishment wants as all you're doing is splitting the vote and giving either Labour or Tory an easier time of winning by technicality and by some sheer fluke if Reform wins, nothing is going to change: you'll be complaining and I'll be there to say I told you so.
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  395.  @juj298  then you are a complete fool. You just don't get the fact you're helping one side or the other - no matter how you try and cut it. Even in defiance, you're doing what you claim to refuse doing. Carry on puppet, carry on.
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  396.  @juj298  and by doing so you contribute in the guarantee that either Sunak or Starmer walk right into number ten at the next election... you not understand that yet? You contribute to splitting the vote and either party have a numbers game advantage of the seat over the other. You can not win in this rigged system and you're either too bullheaded or disillusioned to not see it how it is - Reform will either act in the same manner as either Labour and Tory in which what was the point or much like the Brexit and UKIP parties; will NEVER set foot near that door. Remember the last time UKIP won power? Spoiler alert - they had a grand total of one seat and lost that within a few short months. You want to know what I stand for? To have people do things by their own power instead of lazily going by the same argument "Oh X party will see it right..." THEY NEVER DO! A career politician is only in it for one thing and that's their career. Period.
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  397.  @juj298  tell us without telling us you're a hopeless wonderer for a lost cause in an exercise in futility - continously trying to douse a fire with diesel. Do not think for a moment you're the only one who wants the Tories and Labour out for good.
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  398.  @ninaaniston1717  that window has gone down to about 8 months nowadays
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  399.  @hordegaming4771  or the wishful thinking of the bumbling opposition for that matter.
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  400.  @polaris7122  given how desperate they were coming to England for a bailout, they may as well have been. Why else would they have done so in the first place, or megerly accepted Anne to declare the union?
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  401. Two things - she's not entirely wrong, but 1, the left has always aspired to this - so trying to put any blame on the "Far right" is a fallacy. Both as she claims are indeed opposites, but they're opposites of the offshoots of the left. And this has been going on for decades with recently the movement moving so quick it's become apparent. I also suspect this to be too convenient - the fanatics have always been known to boast their intentions through means like this. I suspect she's been encouraged to tell everyone about the facts - they're proud of it.
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  402. And we gave that money...why?! I opposed it before and I'm facepalming now; especially with the audacity of this ungrateful bitch. The money came out of OUR pocket which could've been used for far more vital things.
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  403. Question is; who do you vote for? The Tories are corrupt, Labour want to sell us out, the Lib Dems are inept, the Greens are lunatics and the rest are simply too small. A government is a reflection of it's people and the fact we keep getting idiots across the aisle into power tells not just about them, but about us too. If this country wants good leaders then we need to as individuals, get good.
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  404.  @douglasrutter6809  call me ignorant but I have no clue who they are.
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  405. No, we have TWO genders and they're not interchangeable. You're either born a boy or born a girl - hermephrodites are NOT an exception, the internal organs are either one or the other so that rules that argument out. End of. Hearing their bs is reinforcing my identity as a Misanthrope.
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  406. Of course he wants unrest - the establishment is counting on it. The 40 percent of people who are aware of what's going on - only about 5 percent of that will know not to fall for the bait. The remaining will go up in arms and bring about unrest... and the other sixty percent of the country - blind and oblivious will panic at the sight, looking to beg for a quick fix because they want "normality" back. And that's when the bar snaps down, the trap triggered. The government will happily indulge them... at the price of their liberties and "rights" which are in truth mere privileges - portrayed as "Just a temporary measure, until it's all over." Dictatorship is seldom appointed by force, but almost always welcomed through democratic process: Rome did the same when Casear was appointed protector - they suspended democracy and gave him absolute power to deal with their plight. And he never gave that power back. Same with Cromwell, same with France, same with Stalin, Adolf, Mao, Kim and Poi. It's the same story and people fall for it every time.
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  407.  @robroots2492  by not playing the game at all. There's only one way to end this madness once and for all and unfortunately the masses are too inert and dependant on the system we yearn to undo.
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  408.  @whatayear  and when social media kicks in like it always does?
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  409.  @davidbanner9001  that's typical of any party, yes.
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  410. "Working Royals" Hah! About as comical as the idea that democracy is "for the sake of people having their voice heard" or that "Government have our best interest at heart" what a joke.
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  411.  @nretik  Your point about government is correct - though they're merely puppets to those who really run things. However I have studied into the "Royal" family and all their 'wealth' is undeserved and unjustified. What, because a thousand years ago a pretentious egotistical prat from Normandy was able to convince a few thousand drunken suspecious halfwits that they ought to make him king and take ownership of land? Well if I declare myself Emperor, through convincing a million or so to follow me - does that make me so? No, it doesn't. And as for the "work" aspect - stuffing their face and being so pretentious so as to travel luxuriously around the world to lecture people on how they're living their lives wrong - when none of them have ever earned their own keep their entire lives or had to live without: ALL at the expense of the taxpayer, does not constitute as "working hard" were they not being recognised as "royals" by ridiculous halfwits, they'd be seen for what they are: a bunch of brattish, deluded benefit claimants who wouldn't know work if it smacked them in the face. And Charlie like mommy before him and every last monarch since the restoration has done NOTHING. The last one who did anything, did so by receiving an axe to the neck... ironically also called Charlie. And the "wind farming" I'm actually laughing at that - those things are counter productive, cost more to build then they ever will make in profit and when they need decommissioning, will cause more "environmental damage" then the source that anyone with any sense would just use, ever could... and guess what; those wind farms need oil just to run - so 'noble' a waste of money on land that Charlie has 'inherited' but hasn't ever earned. And money? That's even richer - he's a "King" of a nation like every other that has a currency backed on how much debt it owes as the pound is; like the Euro and Dollar etc...WORTHLESS! So much for "handling money" properly - can't even get any that has any actual worth since the last pound worth anything on its own was concluded in the 30s with the dropping of the gold standard.
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  412.  @jogger949  that's because most people are mindless, easily distracted, idiotic puppets.
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  413.  @awakeandwatching953  seems like you hit a little too close to home.
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  414.  @mijicmugendo  that's irrelevant; FOM is for the EU countries and we're not in the EU. The fact of the matter is that we're being expected again to take up the shit because Macron won't do his job deliberately as an "Up yours" to the English, this time for not cowtowing to the ramblings of that failed reich.
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  415.  @johnmcmahon5145  due to a corrupt and incompetent parliament - both government and opposition. There's so much we could be doing, but we have too many career politicians and opportunist backhanders looking to make a quick profit at the hindering of our means.
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  416. @Unbroken Always To The Tyrants.
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  417.  @steveedwards5698  You clearly don't know how the game is played. He's doing all he is because he's either consented to or instructed: were he not standing in line, he'd already be removed and replaced. Remember Truss was outed for far less.
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  418. Good. Back to the pit where she belongs: and as for Starmer, he needs chucking there too.
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  419. One would hope so, but now the EU will send their dogs in to quell it.
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  420. I wonder if they'd have all had the same tune if he'd have been against the illegals in the same manner...😒
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  421.  @richardhussey7641  but he did a "great job" at opening the floodgates and pander to the EU...
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  422. Problem is this is the typical turning point of yet another revolution - and whenever revolution comes in terms of way of life - it's never for the better.
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  423. Yet another traitor who's neck needs to meet the block.
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  424.  @noelward8047  I'm quite familiar with them, however that kind of argument of yours is why nothing ever changes. "The lesser of two evils" argument in this instance, well when you're knee deep in shit, be glad it's not up to your neck; but you're still knee deep in shit.
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  425.  @michaelfoley9904  utilised when convenient you mean. Oh had they voted Yes to independence would they allow for a second vote? I don't think so, because the likes of Sturgeon will have gotten what she wants and she'd drop the Scots the moment it became convenient to do so.
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  426. And so the theatre plays on its act. She acts like the altruistic hero, knowing full well any move she makes will be blocked and thus guaranteeing her support so she can continue things going the way the establishment wants. I couldn't think as slow as the dullards believing their vote makes a difference if I tried.
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  427. It's an exercise in futility - it's either the Tories or Labour; the system of voting we're under assures it. Reform is essentially throwing your vote away. No, if we want away with these clowns we need rid of the system.
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  428. Oh how I'd love to hear him rant about Brexit and shout louder to "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
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  429. Get it through your skulls - you try winning through the rigged system; you merely grant consent and legality to their justification of irreprehensible acts. You're wasting your efforts this way!
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  430.  @Tydurden2025  how doesn't it make sense? Labour inflated the service to an unsustainable manner and the Tories came in with big words and little action.
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  431.  @Lucky13Ravens  well what do you expect? Would you like to explain to everyone why their tax rate has accelerated - including the very people within the civil service and on top of that - the price hike to all goods and services to match? And in the process make the issue with the national debt - impossible to pay as it already is, even worse?
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  432.  @Tydurden2025  they say the same thing. So do you have anything to add to the conversation or do you plan on being pedantic without a justifiable purpose? If the latter - good day.
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  433.  @HonestlyHonest-o3x  So you're equally responsible for what this administration and government are doing on behalf of their masters.
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  434.  @robinnigel5439  He's just a puppet like the rest of them in power, I assure you he can and he will. Establishment will demand it.
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  435.  @HonestlyHonest-o3x  you may not have voted for them, but if you voted at all, you consented to the process - therefore you are responsible for what they do.
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  436.  @HåkonOdinsson  So you still put your mark on a ballet paper. Right. So again you've simply signed to consent to the process because you'd be hoping a majority would do the same, yes? Since you did that and your side lost - the winner still have your consent to the process: ergo, you have permitted this.
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  437.  @HåkonOdinsson  For one thing I don't consent to anyone to 'represent' me other than myself. I take no part in the system that's built to control under the illusion of choice when it's nothing but a rat's maze - for another. I stand my ground on my rights, not their decided privileges. I answer to none of their imposed authority. Questions?
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  438. Well as much as I have no desire to go along with anything the likes of government have to say these days - it's about time the spoilt brat Charlie does a little bit of work for once in his life.
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  439. Blind leading the blind... how foolish.
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  440. @Argent Wolf you're familiar with Ideological Subversion.
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  441.  @KyleTheDalek  at this point it would be very difficult; not impossible but difficult. We would have to start Ideological Subversion in direction of traditional value with the next generation. The ones at present are too far gone. The first stage is Demoralisation and that's been repeated over and over for the last century almost with each generation after the last becoming more and more engrossed with this ideology we're seeing. It takes approximately 20 years to demoralise a nation with one generation and once they're adults the process is complete and irreversible. So even if we started RIGHT now it would still take another 20 years max to start undoing the damage and of course those who are indoctrinated already will not go down easy - look how quick they are to cancel. Another thing we would need to do is FORCE our establishment to stop abetting this philosophy and to not invest in nations that propogate it. And seeing as we're nearing the end of stage two we don't have long left. Once the nation hits crisis it's all but over as the truth - even if accepted won't matter to people desperate for the bare necessities. Chairman Mao in China can be attributed with that with his "Great Leap Forward" in which he starved his nation to such desperation that families were exchanging their own children with their neighbours so they wouldn't feel as guilty of committing the ultimate atrocity with their own. You'll find the true depth of the matter in older books as the new ones "conveniently" omit it - "History is written by the winners" after all "A great lie agreed upon. They were starving and desperate - then Mao came and offered a way out at the cost of their liberties "for just a short while" and we know in politics, a short while is never quite short, but desperate the people fell for it and so look at China now - even Stalin would never have dreamed of such "success" at subjugation and obedience - with the people for the most part WANTING to be for they deem it better then starving to the point of resorting to those measures, in spite of their leaders being the ones who caused it.
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  442. @Argent Wolf those weren't attempts, they were deliberate injection of idealism; an idea to be touched into the education system, then they backed off as too much would immediately attract the attention of too many people. Just enough to have the young succeptible and too little for the older to be distracted from their work to argue against it. How China went in terms of starvation, it won't happen this time. It doesn't have to - look at how desperate Canada was last week with a 24 hour Internet blackout. Of course there are those who tell of the loss of their wars, but sadly aside from the likes of you and I who would heed their side of the story; who pays them heed? Nobody. To the mainstream they're just "conspiracy theorists" as if THAT was a bad thing. As for you being on the left as a teen; I don't say this to mock or call you for it, having had many views like that during my youth. However there is an expression that goes that as a child, you're more aligned to the left but as you get older - so long as you don't get contaminated by such brainwash, you find yourself leaning further to the right as the world at 25 is not the same in the mind of a 10 year old.
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  443. Traitor! Fetch the axe!
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  444. When are people going to wake the fuck up!? The state isn't interested in the needs of the people: especially the English who aren't even acknowledged as English anymore - they have to be called "British..." yeah try imposing that on a Scot and see what happens. So WHY are people blindly letting it happen?! Think your vote is going to matter? Think again! They don't care what you think - the outlawing of protest is an alarm bell - what makes you think they want nothing from you but pure unabated obedience?!
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  445. Vote for anyone and you're doing it. The vote is a facade, a con, a scam, a blatant lie.
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  446. Which says a lot about our society - because we're the ones who keep voting them in. The best people for the job are the ones who don't want it because they've got better things to do, they aren't corrupted by power and they know it's all bullshit.
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  447.  @martinheath5947  So you prefer being snobbish in calling them Mr. or Mrs? Priorities, you fool.
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  448.  @annother3350  and you were commenting saying "We don't even live near an ocean". Details, Ann. They are important.
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  449. Just because I'm fed up of the likes of her bitching, I'd be more then happy to put the loan in... for a price. That price being the abolition of Holywood. Since Scotland's governance seems so inept in spite of their posture and gestures then they really can't be trusted with being anything more then all show and no go. So choice from me would be this: give up power and have Scotland be actually on a plus, or refuse and deal with the problem alone. Since she's such a "proud independent" I'm sure Sturgeon can get the country on its feet... I mean she's not one to go begging for a handout from the country she wants away from...oh wait...
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  450.  @SlurpyDave254  they came about because the average Joe on their own has neither the foresight or the balls to speak for themselves. Ever wonder why a union leader always conveniently seems better off then those who that make up the union itself? As far as I'm concerned they're no better then the horrible bosses you criticise: worse actually. Yeah the boss can be an asshole sure, but at least he wasn't being one and claiming it was for your own good. As far as I'm concerned as a Misanthropic Libertarian Individualist: the world owes you nothing, it will demand of you everything. It's up to you to fight for what is yours and if you ever achieve anything then hold it close and never take it for granted, lest those self serving like Tories or bleeding hearts like Labour will take it from you and either keep it for themselves like the former or hand it to someone else like the latter.
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  451.  @khankrum1  there's been little else BUT Socialism - the whole party reeks of it, hiding behind the guise of Liberalism. True Liberalism hasn't existed in this country for well over a hundred years and well before David Lloyd George became the last Prime Minister to be a Liberal in power. Don't get me started on the Tories either; they're far from Conservative; quick to sell and renegade when it's good for the business of the few In this country its either Socialist Labour or Corporatists Tory. The Lib Dems are more Socialist then Liberal given how they came about in the 70s and the Greens? Oh where do I begin with their Authoritarianism
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  452. We need none at all. Voting in this corrupt system and expecting any meaningful change is a wasted effort.
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  453.  @noelward8047  I "modify" because unlike most I have views and thoughts of my own. And I don't just let things drop especially when hypocrisy is present.
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  454.  @alisonjmiller5339  and I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm the sort of guy who goes to a pub after work, has a pint and thinks to himself "Gee, do I want some bacon butties, a takeout or just figure to hell with it and treat myself to a Ben and Jerry's when I get home?" What I'm saying is that they use the matter of 'you and them' to create friction and tensions.
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  455. Because like most - Owen is a mere shill, he has absolutely little to no thought process of his own.
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  456. They were never our allies. Conspirators at most, whilst we towed the reich line.
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  457.  @motelghost477  It's a bit more then that - sure the public are to blame for voting them in, but then the current generation and at least four before them are the results of ideological subversion - each one after the last more dependant on the state then the last and less inclined to think for themselves. It's all by design - make each kid be "educated" into being smart enough to work a certain way but be stupid enough to never challenge the status quo in a way that would endanger their hold on power. Is it no wonder the system keeps going with that in mind? It's not just that the clueless public won't see the truth of the matter - they ideologically can't. It makes no sense to them when you try and explain it to them: you'd have better luck explaining advance physics to a brick. All the likes of you and I can do is try to reach those we can to see through the veil of delusion the establishment has pulled over them: for the greatest trick a tyrant can achieve is convincing those they lord over into believing the illusion of choice is the masses making the choice all on their own.
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  458.  @porridgeandprunes  And that alone is telling as to the farce that democracy really is.
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  459.  @martinleifnymark7432  Nope, never voted in anyone my entire life. As such I can't be called for any of their deeds as no one has ever acted in my name.
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  460.  @Ggjyvj  People bear ALL the responsibility and it's their utter denial of accepting that fact which has gotten us to this point. And why? Because "It's easier." Easier to live in the illusion of freedom and choice then to actually live in actual freedom and choice as the latter bears needing to accept accountability and responsibility.
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  461.  @jessiegleaves9037  Did you vote for anyone during his tenure? If so then by default you legally signed a document of consent regarding the outcome of the vote. The fact that your choice didn't win, is irrelevant; you voted, you acknowledged him by de facto result. As such you would be equally as responsible for the fact the establishment that Blair answered to, were also granted consent by yourself through that vote. So, plan to vote again?
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  462. Nobody could be this stupid honestly - this just SCREAMS of intent. as if they're just waiting for people to violently retaliate to justify a coming dictorial law. Enoch Powell would be turning in his grave. The one man who actually could have navigated us away from this nonsense and he was crucified politically by the typical Eddie Barzoon of the time.
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  463. Democracy is always the key to tyranny as it ultimately ensures it's welcomed eventually to a thunderous applause rather then rejection. All it takes is time and the right set of circumstances. "Democracy" has always been and will always be an illusion.
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  464. And people wonder why I push for everyone to reject the vote and rebel against the system.
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  465.  @manoo422  need to stop voting via this rigged system - Period. Because the majority of people are just plain puppets when it comes to voting; so long as that's the case - voting any other party that's not hand in hand with the current four is impossible.
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  466.  @collier8931  You honestly think there's a difference between them aside from what they talk about? They're media trained to tell you what you want to hear, for one purpose alone - to get you ticking a box: any box and thus consent to the one establishment they ALL answer to in the same way, acting how it wants in your name. So anything they do, to which you object - you have no right to complain about: because YOU signed up for it. Get it yet? They're strategically making things worse as they leapfrog from one side to the other.
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  467. And you will all keep voting, blindly giving your consent to the dictators to act as they want in your name...
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