Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters"
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"He’s right, current right wing parties are, in that sense, socialist. They never talk about tearing down government pension programs, unemployment insurance, taxes, etc. In the UK case, NHS."
No, they are neither Right wing nor socialist. They are Centrists. That is why almost nothing changes, as it is about moderate politics, and consists of people who strongly support moderate policies and people who are not strongly aligned with left-wing or right-wing policies.
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@joaocherrydon9413 "Again, that word used be mean prioritizing society in your policies rather than freedoms or individuality, economic opportunities, etc."
Again, that word is Collectivism, not socialism, which by definition is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, syndicates, unions, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production.
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@Wolf-bz6kq "concept of private property exist since dawn of civilization so liberalism has nothing to do with it. And I don't know what liberalism is?"
Technically private property is a recent thing, since many people lived under Feudalism and Kings, at least in Europe where private property wasn't exactly a thing (serfdom). It was the father of Liberalism, John Locke, who argue that private property exists outside of society (in the state of nature) and is an inalienable right of every man. Locke included life, liberty, and estate (i.e. external goods) in his generic conception of property, so when he argued that the primary purpose of governments is to protect property rights, he was not merely referring to material objects. Rather, he meant that a governments should protect those fundamental rights (including the right to enjoy the fruits of our labor) that are essential to self-preservation and happiness.
If you want to know more about what Liberalism was actually like, I would suggest checking out "the Two Treatises of Government" by John Locke, or "Liberalismus / Liberalism" by Ludwig Von Mises.
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