Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Hakim" channel.

  1.  @furiousfuryan : What "colonial oppression" exactly? Palestine has been autonomous at least over two decades now. Israel couldn't care less about the country, but hamas doesn't let them be. This is what happens when you let stupid people vote. Palestinians could have elected Fatah back in the day but no, they wanted the more radical option... and now they get to enjoy the prize of their stupid games.
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  2. "Fascism is almost always from the right." Wrong. Fascism is from the far-left, since it is an ideology which sits on the right side of Marxism. There were many Italian founders (theoreticians) when it comes to Fascism, however if you want to single out one particular person, then that would be Georges Sorel, not some random Carlyle. Fascism was a branch of "yellow socialism", and also had absolutely nothing to do with Hitler and his National Socialism.
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  3.  @captaintitus7711  "only they cant even defeat their backyard enemy who fights for their right." Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they do not consider the people in their backyard as an enemy? Only hamas. They couldn't care less about Gaza or Palestine in general.
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  4. "are polar opposite forces." Polar opposites when it comes to how they want socialism to be implemented, sure.
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  5.  @TransbianTerror  "Fascism is an explicitly anti-Left ideology. " Wrong. It was anti-marxist and anti-communist ideology. Never "anti-left". In fact, Fascism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
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  6.  @TransbianTerror  "it immediately dismantled labor groups " Only independent and marxist ones, since they wanted those groups nationalized. But then again, Lenin also had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. So your point being?
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  7.  @TransbianTerror  "and murdered Communists and Socialists." Mainly marxists and communists. But then again, so did Lenin with the Mensheviks and Stalin with the Trotskyists. So your point being?
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  8.  @TransbianTerror  "Communism is the polar opposite of Fascism in both its means and ends." Wrong. Fascism, as created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society. Fascism was "Communism without the lie" of a Utopia.
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  9. "anyone who tells you fascism is ‘straightforward’ is bullshitting you." Not really. It is rather straightforward unless you are an illiterate. After all, the Fascists wrote multiple works where they describe their ideology in detail, such as "the Doctrine of Fascism" by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile... or "the Origins and Doctrine of Fascism" by Giovanni Gentile ... or "the Philosophy of Fascism" by Mario Palmieri.
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  10.  @masugoupil  " even though it is pretty well established that fascism exists outside of the left-right dichotomy. " Wrong. It doesn't. The so called 3rd position is still on the left, as it strictly rejects Capitalism and Marxism, while still embracing socialist economy via government control of the means of production, distribution and exchange of goods.
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  11.  @masugoupil  " there is far more evidence that fascism is rightist," Wrong. There is none. Even if we would use the old spectrum based on the French Revolution, Fascism would still not be on the right as it was against Monarchism. And since Fascism is also against Capitalism, it certainly is not on the right when it comes to the modern day political spectrum either.
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  12.  @masugoupil  " including fascists and neo-fascists themselves (since you love the sanctity of primary sources). " Neo-Fascist ideologies were also on the left, such as Juan Perón and his Peronism for example.
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  13.  @masugoupil  "the majority neo-fascist movements you find today will characterise themselves as far-rightist." There really are no notable Neo-Fascists movements today. Peronism I guess would be the most notable one, which again, is on the left.
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  14.  @masugoupil  "than the most renowned historians of fascism, including ian kershaw." Many so called renowned historian even make the simple mistake by conflating Fascism and National Socialism. Hard to take such people seriously when they cannot even get the basics right.
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  15.  @masugoupil  "historians agree that there is no accepted definition of fascism. this means that there is no accepted definition of fascism. "" There is an objective and concrete definition for Fascism, given by all the various Italian syndicalists under Mussolini, and Mussolini himself. If some academic sheep don't care about such historical facts and therefore cannot agree on the definition within themselves, well, that is their problem. Not ours. Anyone looking for that definition, addition to the other books I have mentioned before, should read "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice" by Renzo De Felice.
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  16.  @Seanain_O_hEarchai  "May I ask where you stand ideologically?" I'm a Minarchist, advocating for Classical Liberalism.
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  17.  @ertret3002  "also fascism was the reason we coined words like "privatisation" " No. It wasn't. The word was coined by some random journalist in the Economist magazine. It had nothing to do with Nazi Germany nor Fascist Italy. On the contrary, both ideologies nationalized most if not all their industries.
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  18.  @ertret3002  "which apparently just so happen to contradict socialism at it's core (abolition of private property). " Hitler and the Nazis did abolish private property rights with the Reichstag fire degree on Feb. 28, 1933. They made owning property conditional.
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  19.  @micahsarm  "And also Hitler and Nazis tried to do anything to suppress worker rights and crush unions, " They nationalized those unions and created the biggest union that has ever existed, the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching labor union. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. For example, farmers were coordinated into the Reich Food Estate. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being.
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  20.  @micahsarm  "(while commiting genoc ides on social ist and comm unists of course.) " So did Le nin and Sta lin after the October Revo lution, so your point being?
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  21.  @cbrindle91  "Marx wouldn't have created his theories and books if Germany wasn't ran by capitalists. Weimar Germany was still a capitalist economy. " I wasn't talking about Nazi Germany. They had National Socialism, not Fascism. Regardless, Germany had capitalism before the Nazis, yes.
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  22.  @cbrindle91  "Facist Germany did not nationalize the means of production, either. " Germany didn't have Fascism. They had National Socialism. And wrong, they did.
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  23.  @cbrindle91  "The facist government commissioned private industrialists (aka: capitalists) to produce their war materials. " They weren't private. They were government subsidiaries. Germany still didn't have Fascism.
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  24.  @cbrindle91  "The capitalists made off like kings while the working class was left to die in the war, or in the camps. " Wrong. Capitalists were in the camps. Members of the NSDAP were in charge of the industry.
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  25.  @cbrindle91  "Just look at Hugo Boss, the man who designed and manufactured the Nazi uniform, whose company still exists today. " Hugo Boss literally was an NSDAP member, part of the government, which is why he was allowed to manufacture things in the first place.
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  26.  @cbrindle91  " Early member of the party, made a fortune off the backs of concentration camp labor, capitalist through and through." Wrong. Boss was a socialist.
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  27.  @cbrindle91  "If facism was an anticapitalist ideology, " It was, and National Socialism also.
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  28.  @cbrindle91  "I severely doubt the Nazi party would have gone to the lengths they did to erase Marx's works from the German collective conscious" Of course they did, just like Lenin went after the Mensheviks and Stalin had his 'Great Purge' against Trotskyists ... it is called political rivalry.
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  29.  @cbrindle91 : At least you know how to self reflect. Good. Now, if you ever decide to stop being ignorant, I highly suggest you check out a book called 'The Vampire Economy' by Günter Reimann, which explains how the socialist economy of the Nazis worked.
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  30. "fascism is capitalism's emergency button" Wrong. Fascism was a socialist 3rd position ideology and strictly anti-capitalist. They have nothing to do with each other.
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  31. "when the bourgeoisie's capital is threatened, fascism is activated to protect them" Wrong. The only time when that even happened, was when those "bourgeoisie" were forced to choose between Marxism and Fascism / National Socialism. For obvious reasons, they chose the latter. They preferred to live as shop managers under Mussolini/Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
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  32. From the start, Parenti shows his smooth brain by conflating Fascism and National Socialism, while they were two fundamentally different 3rd position ideologies.
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  33. "Whose interests did Mussolini and H!tler support?" Their own.
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  34. "In the name of saving society from the Red Menace, unions and strikes were outlawed ... Minimum wage laws, overtime pay, and factory safety regulations were abolished." And? Hitler and Mussolini were simply imitating Lenin, who had earlier closed down all independent labor associations, factory committees and worker cooperatives, banned strikes, walkouts, and lockouts. Lenin even forced workers to work a slavish 80-hour week. After the Bolsheviks banned all labor unions, one unionist “described the unions as ‘living corpses.’” Any Russian worker who participated in general strikes was arrested, imprisoned or shot. Under Lenin’s regime, workers had no real representation or bargaining rights and were treated like industrial serfs who were chained to their factories. Although Hitler and Mussolini followed Lenin’s nationalizing craze, their treatment of workers did not mimic their Russian counterparts.
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  35. "Union property and farm cooperatives were confiscated and handed over to rich private owners." Wrong. They were handed over to the government and party members. They were nationalized.
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  36. "Both Mussolini and H!tler showed their gratitude to their big business patrons by privatizing many perfectly solvent state-owned steel mills, power plants, banks, and steamship companies." Wrong. Privatization was never a thing in Nazi Germany and in Italy it was briefly a thing before Mussolini's one-party dictatorship, during 1922 to early 1925 when Alberto de' Stefani was handling the economy. In the 1930s, both countries started their nationalization craze. In fact, by 1939, Fascist Italy attained the highest rate of state ownership of an economy in the world other than the Soviet Union, where the Italian state "controlled over four-fifths of Italy's shipping and shipbuilding, three-quarters of its pig iron production and almost half that of steel".
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  37. "Agribusiness farming was expanded and heavily subsidized." Confiscated and nationalized that is. "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism." "Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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  38.  @cbrindle91  "highly militaristic? Check. " Only this one counts towards Fascism. Pretty much everything else goes against Fascism.
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  39. Naz ism was the com plete op posite of neolibera lism. They w ere soci al ists after all.
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  40. "Reminds of some people (A few right-wing politicians) here in germany, who are claiming that Hitler and the NSDAP were left," Has nothing to do with random politician. It's rather disturbing that you Germans do not understand your own history. Did they replace history with gender studies in your country or something? Hitler and the NSDAP being from the far-left is a historical fact. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  41. "bc called themselves National Socialistic German Worker Party" They called themselves that because it signified what they were advocating for; socialism on a national level.
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  42.  @dylantoney6971  : Well English is not my native language, and it has been fixed now, Herr Grammar-Nazi.
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  43.  @dylantoney6971  : There was no irony there. Only you trying to deflect and change the subject for no reason.
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  44. "Fascism is capitalism's true face," Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Capitalism whatsoever. On the contrary, not only was Fascism a socialist ideology but also strictly anti-capitalist.
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  45. "a dictatorship of the capitalist class" Doesn't exist nor is there such a "class" in the first place. Businesses have no power, unlike governments.
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  46.  @Humanistic_  "There is universal agreement among credible historians that fascism is fundamentally a right wing ideology. " Wrong. There is not. For example some actual Italian historians such as Renzo De Felice and Emilio Gentile will gladly point out, that Fascism was a leftist ideology based on National Syndicalism.
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  47.  @Humanistic_  "I'm sure a lot of you think what you do because of the "government doing stuff is socialism and the less stuff it does is capitalism" ludicrous argument. So I'll try to keep this simple for you. " Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Fascism had the latter.
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  48.  @Humanistic_  "And their private ownership is enforced through state violence and is the primary function of the state." Rather convoluted sentence to just say that the state is there to protect people's property, from thieves.
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  49.  @Humanistic_  " Without which there would be no capitalist class and no capitalism (all states throughout history exist to create and enforce class dictatorships). " Wrong. Capitalism is an economic system which exists independently from any kind of State apparatus. Nobody needs a State to protect their property nor rights (nor provide currency for that matter). Any security company being it private or something else, would do, or people could do it themselves even. Having a State is just more convenient way to do it.
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  50.  @Humanistic_  "Hitler came to power from the support and funding of German capitalists who were scared of meeting the same fate as their Russian neighbors. " Reminder that Hitler was a National Socialist, not a Fascist. Regarding the support, the fact that some capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
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