Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Hakim" channel.

  1.  @kenny-ou5pn : Ah, indeed I got you wrong. I stand corrected.
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  2. Fascism had nothing to do with race. You are talking about National Socialism there.
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  3.  @theshakhrayist7649 : Wrong. They all were, including the NSDAP itself.
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  4.  @theshakhrayist7649 : 3rd position was socialist movement which was against capitalism and marxism.
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  5.  @theshakhrayist7649  "If it's a third position how can it be socialist?" Because their ideologies were based on socialism, they just refused the marxist version of it. This was also known as "Yellow socialism", a counter to Marxist "Red socialism".
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  6.  @theshakhrayist7649 : Third position was still on the far-left. It wasn't social-democracy nor capitalism. It was still socialism.
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  7.  @theshakhrayist7649  "we're opposed to leftism?" Mussolini wasn't. He only opposed Marxism. Ever thought about the fact that none of those you mentioned were part of the 3rd position movement, other than Mussolini?
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  8.  @theshakhrayist7649  "He also opposed anarchism, agrarian socialism, syndicalism, guildist socialism," Mussolini never opposed syndicalism nor guildist socialism. Both were the backbone of Fascism in the first place, from which they created their National Syndicalism.
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  9. "I mean no one with a brain would say that fascism isnt right wing. " Wrong. Literally everyone with a brain would. Fascism literally was a totalitarian far-left, socialist ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from Georges Sorel. It cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. Continuation of the "Yellow socialism" opposed to Marxist "Red socialism". As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, it comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
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  10.  @dotenks  "Mussolini hated socialism." Wrong. He hated Marxism and Bolshevism in general. He never hated socialism itself.
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  11. Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Capitalism whatsoever. On the contrary, as a socialist ideology, Fascism strictly opposed Capitalism.
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  12.  @mountainjews  : I have the account with the same name and icon.
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  13. @XS-03_Apollo : No. It's just entertainment.
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  14. "he would have seen that it's always on the side of capital and always racist. " Wrong and Wrong. First of all, Fascism is not the same thing as National Socialism. They were two fundamentally different ideologies. Secondly, both ideologies were anti-capitalist and anti-marxist, hence '3rd position' movements. Thirdly, only National Socialism was inherently racist.
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  15.  @carlossaraiva8213  "You pro-capitalist groupies should all he forced to work on sweat shops being payed starvation wages for a whole decade to teach you about the wonders of capitalism." How is that Capitalism exactly? and why do these "sweat shops" only exist in 3rd world countries where the government usually controls the economy?
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  16.  @millje9ialastname389  : Nope. You can go and read their 'Doctrine of Fascism' or 'the Philosophy of Fascism'.
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  17.  @something1600  "The Nazis did nothing but protect private property and capitalism" Wrong. Private property rights were specifically abolished with the Reichstag fire decree, and they never had Capitalism to begin with. They had a centralized and planned economy almost identical to the USSR under Stalin, not to mention, Hitler specifically admired the Soviet central planning.
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  18.  @something1600  "why would the capitalist fund the Nazis if the Nazis were going to seize the means of production." The fact that some capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Nazism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers under Hitler than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
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  19.  @DarrenSmith-j8m  "nazis were not socialist" Wrong. By definition they were. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  20.  @DarrenSmith-j8m  " and gulags were just prisons with forced labour" Designed specifically for rival socialists. Mensheviks and Trotskyists comes to mind.
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  21.  @millje9ialastname389  : Indeed it is, and the emphasis on the Marxian part. They had no problems with socialism itself.
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  22. "Capitalism is controlled by the state" Then by definition, it is not capitalism.
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  23. "as the state serves the interests of the capitalists classes " That would be called Corporatocracy then.
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  24. "The bourgiosie governmental state organizations that intervene and regulate the markets are just capitalist states" Wrong. By definition, that is not capitalism. You are describing a mixed economy.
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  25. "Fascism is the stage of capitalism" Wrong. Fascism was strictly anti-capitalist ideology, based on national syndicalism adapted from Georges Sorel.
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  26. "Socialism is against all of that" Wrong. Socialism is only against private ownership of the means of production.
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  27. "Fas cism is based on manipu lating the work ing class's ma sses to accept cla ss colla boration between the capi talist class and the worki ng class ( chau vinis m ) ." There was no ma nipulat ion. It was coercion by the supreme State. Fasc ism was stat ism. According to Muss olini himself: “The State exists for all the people, but is also above the people, and, if necessary, against the people ... It is against them whenever they attempt to place their particular interests above the general inter ests of the Na tion. It is the purpose of Fas cism to unify the Nat ion through the sove reign State, the State which is above all and can be against all, because it represents the moral continuity of the Nation. Without State there is no Nation."
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  28.  @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator  "Extreme and Far left are the same thing my guy" No. They are not, which is why the other one is called 'Far' and the other, 'Extreme'.
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  29.  @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator  "ahistorical drivel" Nope. Cope harder.
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  30.  @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator : No they don't.
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  31.  @ABadRash : Mussolini never stopped being a socialist.
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  32.  @ABadRash : There is no false information. That was a claim made by Mussolini himself.
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  33. @@lucievelyn4866 : "You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me.” — Benito Mussolini, As quoted by Mussolini after he was expelled from the Italian Socialist Party in 1914. “Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Socialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Socialism and of the Revolution.” — Benito Mussolini, Speech at the Italian Socialist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914. “Our programs are definitely equal to our revolutionary ideas and they belong to what in democratic regime is called “left”; our institutions are a direct result of our programs and our ideal is the Labor State. In this case there can be no doubt: we are the working class in struggle for life and death, against capitalism. We are the revolutionaries in search of a new order. If this is so, to invoke help from the bourgeoisie by waving the red peril is an absurdity. The real scarecrow, the real danger, the threat against which we fight relentlessly, comes from the right. It is not at all in our interest to have the capitalist bourgeoisie as an ally against the threat of the red peril, even at best it would be an unfaithful ally, which is trying to make us serve its ends, as it has done more than once with some success. I will spare words as it is totally superfluous. In fact, it is harmful, because it makes us confuse the types of genuine revolutionaries of whatever hue, with the man of reaction who sometimes uses our very language.” — Benito Mussolini, Speech on April 22, 1945 in Milan.
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  34.  @segasaturndude8945  "Fascism is simply capitalism in decay." Wrong. Fascism was Marxism in decay, and Fascism strictly opposed Capitalism.
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  35. "The rise of fascism in Nazi Germany is one such example." There was no fascism in Nazi Germany in the first place. They had National Socialism, not Fascism, which was strictly an Italian movement.
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  36.  @PuppetMasterdaath144  " the economic and social policies of Nazi Germany did not align with what most people understand as socialism." Wrong. They did. Nazi Germany had a centralized and planned economy similar to the USSR under Stalin. Government controlled the means of production and also decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. This is better known as a Command economy, which is part of the socialist economic system.
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  37.  @TransbianTerror  "Fascism is not just an Italian movement. " Wrong. It explicitly was. Go read some history.
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  38.  @TransbianTerror  "but he didn't invent the broad theory of Palingenetic Ultranationalism" Sure. Then use that word instead like a normal person. You would then be correct saying, that Fascism and National Socialism are Palingenetic Ultranationalist ideologies.
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  39.  @TransbianTerror  "Their were Fascists and proto-Fascists before Mussolini my dude." Wrong. There were not.
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  40.  @aralornwolf3140  ""Therefore... to say "Nazis are Socialists" is incorrect. Wrong. Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Nazis had the latter.
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  41.  @aralornwolf3140  "as "Fascism" may have started with Mousillini, but it didn't stay there." Wrong. It did. There were few 'neo-fascist' movements such as the original Falangists in Spain and Oswald Mosley's party in the UK, but thats about it.
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  42.  @DarrenSmith-j8m  : Every socialist regime killed their political rivals i.e. other socialists and broke up independent unions. Mussolini however, nationalized and transformed them into syndicates. Also Mussolini never said such a thing about markets. Fascism had a Command economy via Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian), which was one of the cornerstone principles in Mussolini's fascism, and had to do with the way society and the economy would be organized, with state power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms.
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  43. "if nazi Germany had a controlled economy " They did. Centralized and planned, also known as a Command economy. Rather similar to the USSR under Stalin in fact.
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  44. "Liberalism, its historical ties to racism, capitalism and fascism " Wrong. Liberalism has nothing to do with racism nor fascism whatsoever.
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  45.  @noone64  "that there is plenty of fascism and racism in today's liberal countries. " They aren't Liberal countries in the first place, and no modern day country has Fascism.
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  46.  @noone64  : Maybe you should go and read what Liberalism was actually about before using the word. You should start from "Two Treatises of Government" by John Locke.
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  47.  @noone64  : The video is wrong.
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  48.  @noone64  : Go read books.
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  49. Wrong. Liberalism and Fascism are two polar opposite of ideologies.
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  50.  @Moms_For_Tyranny  "fascism was a reaction against socialism , that's why it's so weird that people say it's socialism. " Wrong. Fascism was a reaction to Marxism, not socialism. Fascism had no problems with socialism, and specifically was based on it, and National Syndicalism.
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