Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Leeja Miller" channel.

  1. Venezuela already has something like that. That's why Maduro's opposition is going poof.
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  2. or you people just have no clue what Fascism is. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  3. How you were wrong exactly?
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  4.  @davidpacifico1019  : How they were right exactly?
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  5. Neither are Fascists actually.
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  6.  @yomammasaurusrex9571  Nope. Trump and the GOP had nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  7. "Yes, Trump is a Fascist." Wrong. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  8. You ign orant am urica ns have no idea what the word 'fas cism' even means nor what it repres ented. Please stop using words that you do not understand. It's embarrassing.
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  9.  @davg.2589  : If you people would know what you are talking about, I wouldn't need to comment in the first place. Go back to school.
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  10. In order to go to jail, one would have the break the law first.
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  11. Only Italy had a Fascist state, and Nazis had nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever, nor does Trump. Get some help and go read some history.
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  12. " Trump also did a coup d'état, just like Hitler. " Nope. Trump did no such thing.
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  13. "We are at a time where the head candidate of the Republican Party stated 'United Reich' in a video to confirm us:" Nope. He didn't and it wasn't even his video in the first place. If you want to avoid mistakes the Germans did back then, how about stop blindly believing in propaganda?
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  14.  @saphyre-l4w  " It's a well sourced, well researched established fact." You have no clue what those words even mean. Typical American.
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  15. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  16. "A collective effort towards the greater goal for everyone is somehow evil?" Depends if you are going to use a totalitarian government to pull it off, and who gets to decide what that "greater goal for everyone" is exactly?
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  17. "Yeah this world is officially the furthest from God." Well if you want bring people closer to God, then the answer is spreading the Gospel ... not Communism nor any kind of Theocracy.
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  18. He is not a Fascist because he is not a socialist.
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  19.  @carter7944  : Well according to Leeja Miller, you need to be a sheep, and you shouldn't doubt nor question the official government narrative, so Maduro won the elections. Are you an election denier?
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  20.  @randomtinypotatocried  : There is no Fascism growing in any country nor is it a thing in any country's mainstream politics.
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  21.  @Fati_Fatale  : You people have no clue what Fascism means and are using the word as a slur out of ignorance.
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  22. "No, you shouldn't get to own more than 2 residential properties. Period." Why? Just because "you don't like it"? It's not exactly a valid argument. People should be free to own as many properties as they can with their money, however I can only wish them good luck maintaining such property-monstrosity. Let the market do its thing.
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  23. "I'd like to think the capita lism to soci alism transition is an inevitable historical development." It's not. There will be no such transition without a full blown civil war. Soci alism is unsustainable.
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  24. You people are so clueless. Get some help for your TDS.
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  25. In Fascism, the government controlled the education, hun.
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  26.  @burner9147  : Nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever.
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  27. Sounds good as long as you are forced to build the house and do all the related work yourself. It's not a human right to force other people to do it for you, since that would be sla very. But then again, you could just move to China since they have this system in place already.
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  28.  @glebperch7585  : For some reason Ukrainians don't seem to think that way? Otherwise they wouldn't be fighting against Russia.
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  29. Nothing to do with Fascism though.
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  30. "Want education to get better? Outlaw privates schools and force the children of rich aholes into the public. " You would think that what happened in Nazi Germany, USSR, modern day China and North Korea would make you idiots to see how public is the worst option. The only way to make education better, is via private schools and competition.
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  31. Nothing to do with capitalism.
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  32. "This country gets closer and closer to full blown Fasc ism with each passing year and yet there's no one crying about that." There is no fasc ism in your country, and fasci sm was a socia list ideology anyways ... nice try.
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  33. Being left of National Socialism would make you a Marxist.
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  34.  @grmpEqweer  : People like Musk, Gates or Bezos have no power over you, hun.
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  35. Neither Hitler nor Trump have anything to do with Fascism.
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  36. There is no Fascism in America, and Madeleine Albright had no clue about Fascism.
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  37.  @lpsmadgirl23  : Well not only were both National Socialism and Fascism two different ideologies, but also both were socialist ideologies. Trump is not a socialist nor does he seek to expand government and its control, nor does he seek to centralize and nationalize the economy. There is also a difference between being a proud patriot and a proud nationalist. Keeping open communications with dictators post presidency is not necessarily a bad thing, unless you really hate diplomacy.
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  38. There is no such thing as "capitalist class".
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  39.  @lavetissene339  : Nope, he didn't. Get some help for your TDS.
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  40.  @SeouljahPride  : Trump is not a socialist unlike Hitler was ... also young Hitler took part in two failed Communist revolutions in Bavaria during 1919. Go back to school.
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  41. "American uncontrolled capitalism, " Not a thing, in any country.
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  42. Nothing wrong with Capitalism.
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  43. That is not how Far-Right works though.
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  44. Nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Go read some history.
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  45. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  46.  @leandervr  "Hitler's "National socialism" has nothing to do with socialism. " Wrong. By definition, National Soci alism was a totalitarian Far-Left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on ethnonationalism trying to supersede Marxism as the most common socialist ideology. They had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socia list. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Ma rxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  47. and Trump being a Capitalist "bourgeoisie" and Hitler being a devout socialist.
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  48.  @SocialMacro : You would be surprised how many basic things can be considered to be "means of production" by socialists. For example, since cows produce milk and meat, they are considered to be government property in Cuba.
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  49. "Fascism is the child of capitalism." Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Capitalism whatsoever. On the contrary, as a socialist ideology Fascism strictly opposed it. If anything, Fascism was the child of Sorelianism.
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  50. "It is the protector of the capitalist state in times of crisis, whoever the capitalist class selects as their figurehead at the helm." Wrong. Fascism was the enemy of Capitalism and there has been no such crisis in the first place. Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
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  51. "Hitler wasn’t the progenitor fascism in Germany, " There was no Fascism in Germany in the first place. They had National Socialism. Two different ideologies.
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  52. " but the expression of the German far-right with full support of the capitalist class, " There was no Far-Right in Germany during that time nor in any European country for that matter.
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  53. "Completely eliminating the prospect of fascism requires the overthrow of capitalism." Wrong. Completely eliminating the prospect of fascism requires denouncing socialism, nationalism, national syndicalism, neo-hegelianism and collectivism in general. Go back to school.
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  54. "The battle between capitalist and socialist forces," Nothing to do with Capitalism whatsoever. During Europe at the time, it was a battle between socialists forces, struggle between different left-wing ideologies, an internationalist and a nationalist one.
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  55. And that is a good thing.
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  56.  @breakthewheelnow8223  : You have no clue what you are talking about.
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  57.  @Junebuggly  " "Nazis had nothing to do with fascism ever" I'm so sorry that your school has failed you." Do you Americans even have schools? Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism were two completely different ideologies.
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  58.  @Junebuggly  "The Nazis are currently the most infamous fascist group in history. " Wrong. Nazis were National Socialists. Fascists were Fascists. Two different groups with two different ideologies in two different countries. Go back to school.
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  59.  @Nitrox-.  "This relation is often depicted as if socialism and a totalitarianism were part of the same ideology." Socialism leads to totalitarianism since such enforced collectivism simply doesn't work otherwise. In order to instill these involuntary ideals on a population, there must be some kind of force, there must be some kind of aggression, some kind of hierarchical organization that sits on-top of the population, governing. If there was no aggression from a governing body, socialism would not work and would immediately dissipate into free-market capitalism, simply because it is involuntary.
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  60. Fascism hasn't been a thing since the WW2 era.
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  61. "There is an even bigger reason for all the right-wing groups popping up in Europe." Yes. That reason being that the socialistic "welfare state" concept is not working, for obvious reasons.
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  62. "Germanys second largest party is the AFD right now a Ultra-right-wing Party with Fascist views" Wrong. AfD is a center-right party and they have nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever, which was a socialist Far-Left ideology.
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  63. "1: We begin unraveling the damage that Neoliberalism has caused us through shitty economic policy -" Wrong. Your government printing money and giving it away to random things and countries is the problem, not Neoliberalism. On the contrary, the more you can keep your government out from the economy, the better.
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  64. "or a competent radical right-winger (think Hitler, Mussolini)" Both had nothing to do with right wing of any kind whatsoever. Both Hitler and Mussolini were devout socialists, i.e. far-leftists.
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  65.  @ParagonFury  "he claims Hitler was a "devout socialist"" There is nothing to claim, since it's a historical fact. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  66. There is no Fascism in America.
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  67.  @AeonPhoenix  "Corporations nowadays love money more than human beings" Well, where do you think those corporations get their money from?
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  68.  @alasarcher400  "Also Capitalism caused more deatha and suffering than communism ever could." Nope. Try again.
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  69. There is no difference between "private" and "personal" property. Such distinction is imaginary, made up, and doesn't exist in reality where there is just property.
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  70. Don't know about communism, but you amuricans are lucky that you can just take a quick trip to Cuba and witness first hand, how those lovable socialist overlords are treating their local peasants in their natural habitat.
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  71. "That absolutely needs to change …." People like you always seem to forget that other people have to work, so that you can have those "basic needs".
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  72.  @seilaoquemvc2  "It’s impossible under capitalism, " Wrong. It is not, and you don't even have Capitalism in America in the first place. You have a mixed economy system, not Capitalism.
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  73. "I will also say yes, Trumps comments are no doubt fascist, " Nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Go study some more since you have no clue what you are talking about.
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  74. "Republicans had four years to find someone besides Trump to run for president, but they didn't. " There were many others. You do know that they had primaries, right? Trump was the people's choice.... unlike Kamala.
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  75.  @KingZNIN  : Plenty of people did. Cope harder.
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  76.  @yuluoxianjun  : Wrong. Nothing to do with Capitalism. National Socialism was a socialist ideology also.
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  77. @sasho_b. " Liberalism sometimes helps poor people under social democracy, " Liberalism and Social-Democracy are two completely different ideologies. They have very little in common, and are incompatible.
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  78. @sasho_b. "... that forces people to work for terribly low wages to begin with." That would be the Government in general, and under every socialist one-party dictatorship, people were doing just that.
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  79. Fascism hasn't really been a thing since the WW2 and nobody in any country is advocating for such revolutionary socialism.
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  80. "In capitalism we are the players fighting for money in a game created by the capitalist who have the resources where our lives don't matter and we are replacable." Wrong. Capitalism is just the result of free humans making voluntary exchanges with one another in the absence of outside coercion.
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  81.  @BeckyRoth99  "once they can't pay their rent and groceries anymore" That's the Government's fault. Nothing to do with Capitalism.
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  82. You people have no clue what you are talking about. Fascism specifically was a socialist ideology, and a rival to Marxism.
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  83. "Remember that the nazis were not socalists, " Wrong. By definition, National Soci alism was a totalitarian Far-Left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on ethnonationalism trying to supersede Marxism as the most common socialist ideology. They had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socia list. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Ma rxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  84. “After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.” — Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant (1978)
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  85. Nope. He has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  86.  @partiallyparker  "literally said he’ll be a dictator “but just for day 1”" When it comes to oil drilling and the border. Also if you are too ignorant to understand, that he was referring to your American Executive Orders, then maybe you shouldn't be talking about politics.
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  87. What is there to share if you do not own anything? And who gets to decide what is shared?
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  88. @sasho_b. "Its about ownership of the workplace and what labor produces. Labor is entitled to the products it makes. " And they are and would be, as long as they do not sign job contracts and work for someone else. This labor should put up their own business or co-op. It's called entrepreneurship.
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  89. @sasho_b. "Bezos isnt entitled to the products his workers make" Actually he is, as without Bezos those workers wouldn't be workers in the first place. Well, it all depends on what is written in the job contract.
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  90. "Remember fascism is a gradual takeover." Less than 3 years is a "gradual takeover" nowadays? That is how long it took for Mussolini to take over, as he went from being a Prime Minister in 1922 to the Il Duce in 1925.
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  91.  @ArYan-fx3ty  : There is not truth in her channel nor in her videos.
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  92. How about just use actual history books instead of random online articles written by random ignorant people. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  93. Fa scists were f ar-le ft, hun.
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  94. There is no such thing as "personal" and "private" property, as property is just property. There is no magical and arbitrary distinction.
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  95. Your country didn't even have a coup in the first place.
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  96.  @davidpacifico1019  "The US has an attempted coup." There was no such thing in the US.
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  97.  @davidpacifico1019  " The reason it’s not an actual coup is specifically because it failed." Nope. It was a typical riot.
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  98.  @saphyre-l4w  " It wasn't a typical riot. Don't kid yourself." You do know that we have the surveillance tapes, even here on youtube, right?
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  99.  @saphyre-l4w  "It was a literal attempt to overthrow" Nope. There was no such thing. Go look what happened in Egypt few years back or in Chile when Pinochet took over.
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  100.  @rainestar6781  "Trump will make it worse." How exactly? You do know that they had peace thanks to Trump, right?
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  101. "Trump is a fascist yes" Nope. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever.
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  102.  @timmackenzie8145  "Trump is a fascist, pure and simple. " Nope. Trump has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. Get some help for your TDS.
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  103.  @rn6312  : Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  104. Hold up ... didn't Maduro have the most secure election in Venezuelan history? He did win the elections tho as he got more votes according to the official government narrative. It was the opposition who declared the elections illegitimate. Kind reminds me of something that happened in the US not so long ago. Regarding the US elections, please, until you implement ID verification nation wide, you are nothing more than a Banana republic compared to our European elections.
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  105.  @Iukereigns3460  : Wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Right wing of any kind whatsoever. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  106. Funnily enough, so called "ur fascism" is not even a thing. It doesn't exist.
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  107.  @Junebuggly  : This video has nothing to do with Fascism actually. She has no clue what she is talking about.
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  108. Nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever, which also had nothing to do with Weimar Republic.
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  109. You Germans didn't even have Fascism, and Trump is not a socialist unlike both Hitler and Mussolini were. Go back to school.
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  110. "the key property being controlled is the MEANS OF PRODUCTION not just like all of the things. " In practice it means ALL things (land, labor, capital). The means of production is the social use and ownership of the elements needed to produce goods and services. A good is an object that people use to satisfy their wants. Examples of goods include a cellphone, a book, or a hairbrush. A service is anything that someone does to satisfy another human's wants, usually for payment. Examples of services are a haircut from a barber, a plate of food from a cook, or calling a plumber to fix a toilet. You only need to have a simple paintbrush and some skills to use it and bam, you could paint portraits and paintings which you could sell, therefore, no paintbrushes allowed.
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  111. Wrong. Soci alism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) own/control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership/control of the means of production.
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  112. Jesu s di dn't advocate for any pol itical ideology. Secular polit ics is co mpletely irrelev ant in Chris tianity.
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  113.  Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v  "Liberal means left leaning and is closer to socialism and communism. " Wrong. Liberalism is a Far-Right ideology in our modern day political spectrum and technically what the Argentinian president, Javier Milei represents. It was founded by John Locke who was of the opinion, that the sole purpose of the State was to protect people's lives, liberty and property. That's about it. Liberalism advocates for free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on property rights, individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech. This is also what you Americans mistakenly call "libertarianism"... which actually was a socialist movement.
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  114.  Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v  "While conservativism and right wing leaning politics are closer to fascism a far right ideology." Wrong. Conservatism has nothing to do with left/right political spectrum in the first place. It's a philosophical stance against change, progressivism. Both are relative terms and their context change country-by-country basis, depending on what is considered traditional. Regarding Fascism, it was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  115.  Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v  "If you want an example of a real liberal and what a true liberal should be Bernie Sanders is the closest we have in American politics." Wrong. Bernie is a Social-Democrat. Nothing to do with Liberalism whatsoever.
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  116.  @ThePanMan11  "I'd urge you to look up umberto eco's 14 points of fascism and see how many Trump meets in your view. " Umberto's random and generic points have nothing to do with Fascism. They can be applied to almost all totalitarian and dictatorial regimes and none of them are unique to Fascism.
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  117.  Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v  : Go read some history before you comment.
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  118. "but on the ownership of the means of production and the profteering off of them, like industries and renting of houses;" Ah yes ... care to elaborate who is gonna monitor and make sure nobody uses their "personal" homes for renting or their "personal" cars for being an Uber? or their "personal" power tools for building services? or their "personal" cows for meat and milk production? Sounds like you gonna need a totalitarian government to keep people under the boot of those arbitrary rules now don't you?
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  119. " In a cap italist world, information that goes againat billion ares interests WILL be suppr essed." We have yet to see such a thing... meanwhile going against the gover nment however and its narrative, will indeed be su ppres sed.
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  120. "Basic rights for people WILL be lost, liv es WILL be destr oyed. " Will ne ver happen in a Capitalist world, which wants the gover nment to be small in the first place.
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  121. "Your political spectrum is SO far to the rig ht that your rig ht is explicit nation alist fasc ism," ... you do realize that Fas cism was a socia list 3rd posit ion ideology, right? Fa r-le ft and adjacent to Mar xis m.
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  122. "provable fact that capita lism is in con flict with hum an soc iety and educ ation" Wrong. It is not. Ameri c ans like y ou are pa t h et ic.
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  123. I highly suggest you move to No rth Kor ea or other socia list countries and then report back how things are working for you there, @Tales Caléu Corrêa Fernandes. Keep sim ping for the government.
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  124.  @epicphailure88  : It is a step towards a functional society. Libertar ianism would be even better.
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  125. "Private property refers to the means of production. It is not the same as personal property. Anti-communist propaganda likes to blur these two terms as a means to attack communism." This is artificial separation which doesn't exist in reality. Nothing to do with propaganda whatsoever. Pretty much every single "personal property" item can be used to make money or if you have the skills and equipment, you can make more of them ... unless of course, you have a totalitarian entity pointing a gun at you and forbidding you to do that, which is needed to keep this artificial separation in place.
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  126. Nope. It is not. There was no merger, and there was only State power. America has nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever.
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  127. Oh really? Who in the America is advocating for National Syndicalism and Neo-Hegelian philosophy exactly? Did you forget that Fascism was a socialist ideology?
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  128.  @Awoken_Remmuz  "to counter the failings of unregulated capitalism " There is no "unregulated" capitalism in any country, and if there would, it wouldn't be failing anyways.
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  129.  @Awoken_Remmuz  "sorry to be a spoil sport but there pretty much is one, on the international stage America has become the poster boy for what happens when corporate controlled capitalism has gone to far." No, just no. United States is a mixed economy, as it leaves ownership of the means of production in mostly private hands but incorporates elements such as subsidies for agriculture, regulation on manufacturing, and partial or full public ownership of some industries like letter delivery and national defense. In fact, almost all modern economies fall somewhere on the continuum of mixed economies. The problem is the government, not capitalism.
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  130. The only Neo-Fascist movement still active and being part of mainstream politics, would be Peronism in Argentina.
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  131. "What we DO disagree on between ourselves, is the property that can make profit. Like factories, houses, etc." That's the thing ... almost everything can be used to make profit. Even toothbrushes. Ever heard of a dentist? There is no difference between "private" and "personal" property. Such artificial and arbitrary distinction doesn't exist. Property is just property.
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  132. You have no clue what Fascism even means.
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  133.  @SpielkindFR  : Socia lism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) own/control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership/control of the means of production.
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  134.  @SpielkindFR  : " But why exactly are you explaining this to a soci alist?" Because from your first comment it seemed that you didn't want to admit that nazis m and marx ist-leninism / stalin ism were soci alist ideologies.
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  135. You Americans have no clue what Fascism even is nor what it represented... and don't worry, your country will never experience Fascism.
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  136. "Capitalism has failed, " Wrong. Capitalism doesn't fail, and your country doesn't even have a capitalist economy... you have a mixed economy, just like almost every modern day country. Governments have failed.
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  137. There is nothing wrong with the slogan "make our cou ntry great ag ain". What matters is how that is done.
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  138.  @Cienfuegos.  : Nope. Cope harder.
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  139. " Late stage capitalism is danger'ous" It cannot be dangerous when it doesn't exist in the first place. There is no "late stage" of Capitalism.
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  140. "it is often said that faci'sm is capita'lism in decline and that's very true " Except that is wrong. Fascism had nothing to do with Capitalism whatsoever. On the contrary, as a socialist 3rd position ideology, it strictly opposed Capitalism and was based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, Georges Sorel in the first place.
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  141. "Capitalism will also not save us from climate change nor free market" Wrong. It will. Capitalism has gave us plenty of alternative methods, meanwhile the socialist China is still the #1 planet polluter with their coal usage.
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  142.  @andrewreynolds912  : Wrong. Imperialism has nothing to do with Capitalism whatsoever. Your problems lie with the government, not with Capitalism.
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  143.  @DinoDaley-xp2eo  You need to cope harder than that.
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  144. They aren't Liberals. They are progressives.
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  145.  @Junebuggly  "Please explain how you watched this video all the way through and decided that Trump is not a fascist." This video has nothing to do with Fascism, nor does Trump for that matter.
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  146.  @Junebuggly  : I have, and the video is wrong.
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  147.  @Junebuggly  "Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism and religious nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. " These are not common themes of Fascist movements. These are the common themes of 99% of the modern day Governments.
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  148.  @Junebuggly  "Other aspects of fascism such as perception of decadence, anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas. -Wikipedia" These traits were also part of every single socialist one-party dictatorship. None of these traits are unique to Fascism. Please stop using Wiki as a source.
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  149.  @Junebuggly  "Now please tell me how Trump doesn't fit the bill." Trump fits the bill of a moderate, establishment shill.
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  150.  @Junebuggly  "2. while these are not exclusive to fascism, the combination of them is literally what defines fascism" No. What defines Fascism, is the rejection of individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, Fascism advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  151.  @Junebuggly  "and as a subtle hint for you to actually do research and learn about a topic before basing your whole ideology on it." Doing research is not the same thing as copy/pasting random things from the first link on Google which happens to be Wiki and also historically incorrect. How about you go to your local library and start reading actual books instead, such as; [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  152. "Neoliber alists are just slow Na zis." Wrong. They are literally the opposite ideologies.
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  153. "joys? of being german, is looking at established brands, manufacturerers, corporations etc around you, and being reasonably certain that probably all of them have some type of n azi history if they existed in that time. VW? Check. Adidas? Check. Steel manufacturers? Check. BMW? Check. sadly, at this point, you can just presume that old german brands etc were involved with the naz is in some way or another, even if its ""just"" using slave labour from the prison camps. " Don't you just love it when the government comes in and tells you, that you have to work for them now... ah, the joys of socia lism.
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  154. "I think "private property" and "personal property" are being conflated there, as they often are." Because in reality, there is no difference. That is just some random and artificial marx ian distinction which does not exist in real life.
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  155. "but I don't believe anyone is advocating that the government should control "personal property", meaning the incidental stuff that people own. Now someone could say, "well such-and-such wealthy person owns the factory, and the state would take that", and like, yeah, that factory is part of the "means of production"," There are plenty of things you can produce without owning an actual factory for crying out loud. Hell, for carpentry you only need hammers and saws and other simple tools. We are waaay past the 'Industrial age' where the common folk couldn't afford basic tools of today.
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  156. "But nobody is losing ... their home, ... to the state." So are you suggesting that someone could act as a landlo rd and ren t their home for some people then? Are you sure about that?
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  157. Every country is ruled by oligarchs... they are just called politicians nowadays. Capitalism is not the problem here, the governments are.
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  158.  @riccardozanoni2531  "are at the very basis of fas cist ideology. " Controlling information / general education is the very basis of every totalitarian and dictatorial regime, it's not somehow unique or limited to fasc ism.
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  159.  @riccardozanoni2531  "that's just a blatant oversimplification of both fascism and totalitarianism." It was you who tried to oversimplify fasc ism here and make it a synonym for totalitarianism, not me. Fas cism was way more than just controlling information.
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  160.  @riccardozanoni2531  "your only argument to this point was mockery. " My argument was that people should not use words that they do not understand.
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  161. The real result was the Maduro won. Now take Leeja Miller's advice and stop being an election denier. Go bow down to your Maduro overlord.
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  162.  @davidpacifico1019  : There was no genocide under Trump, hun.
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  163.  @partiallyparker  : There was no conflict in the first place thanks to the "Abraham Accords".
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  164. "There is a extreme difference between communism and socialism" The difference is that communism is a political ideology, while socialism is an economic system. Communism is a socialist ideology, and socialism is the stepping stone to communism... in the marxist ideology at least.
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  165. "Humans are not built to be inactive." While true, people would just focus on their own hobbies etc. which only makes things worse.
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  166. "I think most people wouldn't just sit around and do nothing either." For the most part they would, or they would consume entertainment etc.
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  167. Who wouldn't want to protect their property from thieves?
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  168. "This is inevitable under capitalism. " Wrong. This would not happen under capitalism, since your government and its regulations are interfering with the market. The prices are high because there is more demand than supply.
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  169. so your solution is just blatant theft?
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  170.  @Cienfuegos.  "capitalism has absolutely killed more." Nope, cope harder.
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  171. "Whilst unfettered capitalism reigns supreme " Wrong. It doesn't, and such a thing is properly known as Laissez-faire, and it hasn't been a thing anywhere.
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  172.  @WaterCarrier07  : The point is, that "unfettered capitalism" is not a thing, anywhere.
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  173.  @WaterCarrier07  : Because no country uses nor has such an economic system.
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  174. Wrong. That is not how capitalism works and capitalism is not even a thing in any country. Almost every modern day country has a mixed economy.
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  175. "We are sleep walking our way straight into fascism. " Highly unlikely. People can see and smell such revolutionary socialism which glorified the state and the Roman Empire mile away. However it is more likely, that you people have no clue what you are even talking about in the first place.
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  176.  @Rheitala  "Not if people realize that the actual enemy of fascism is socialism, not liberalism." Fascism was a socialist ideology, and the enemy of Fascism was both the Marxist variation of socialism and Classical Liberalism.
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  177.  @blub-tf6rt  : Nope.
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  178. However the centralized government is the transition period to Communism, also known as the 'dictatorship of the proletariat'.
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  179. "Thinking that workers deserve ownership over the things they made…" That is called entrepreneurship. When you own your own business, you deserve ownership over the things you make.
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  180.  @LouisianaCityboi  "A business has employees. Employees are actually making whatever it is the business is trying to sell. " And those employees signed a contract, in which they get paid according to the labor they provide instead of what they end up making.
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  181. "I feel we need to go back into the Lutheran, Presbyterian, and Methodist churches and find God. " Except they are cults, akin to Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses.
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  182. "The most reasonable people are often mainline Protestant." Most of them do not even know God. They only know tradition and think that you only need to believe in God during Sundays or by doing these "sacrament" things invented by their Church fathers. They are closer to Judaism than Christianity at this point.
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  183. "I conclude we need God." True, so go out and start preaching the Gospel then.
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  184. INGSOC would be proud of you.
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  185. While horrible, it was a net positive for Chile ... which could be a Cuba 2.0 now without Pinochet.
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  186. "Show me a leftist who criticizes communism" Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin etc. ... many socialists didn't want the anarchistic dystopia Karl Marx talked about.
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  187.  @r.w.emersonii3501  "The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains" Funnily enough, proletarians can only have chains under socialism, where they are forced to work for the collective. Meanwhile in a capitalist society, they are not forced to work for anyone. In fact, they could start being entrepreneurs and only work for themselves.
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  188. " Fas cism is the natural polar opposite and mortal enemy of com munism. " They are only the polar opposites when it comes to how soci alism should be implemented.
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  189. People like you are on the wrong side of history.
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  190.  @stewartadkins9931  "it's a more fair and balanced system" Everyone being equally miserable and poor that is.
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  191. "Because communism is the answer, " It's an answer, if you want to achieve equal misery and poverty.
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  192. There is no Fascism in the US for crying out loud.
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  193. "because it ignores the difference between private and personal property, defined by Marx." There is no such difference in real life. It is an artificial and arbitrary distinction. Marx was wrong.
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  194. "Personal property is explicitly protected, no one ever wanted the shirt off your back, and the only houses being taken were landlord rentals." Everyone who has a house can be a potential landlord... isn't a house considered to be "personal property"? What about a car? What happens if you want to be an Uber?
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  195. Nothing is stopping you from moving into a socia list country where they have that. If you want to simp for a gove rnment, I highly suggest checking out North Korea, or China.
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  196.  @ceciland18  : So under a totali tarian dictato rship, you don't get forced to do things? Since when?
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  197.  @rn6312  : I talk everywhere, where ignorant Americans open their mouths... instead of keeping them closed as they should.
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  198.  @IsaRican810  : They aren't characteristics of Fascism. They are just generic characteristics which can be applied to almost every totalitarian and dictatorial regime. None of them are unique to Fascism.
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  199. There is no such thing as "late stage capitalism".
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  200. "But we are fighting a very similar party:" Pretty much the complete opposite party compared to Hitler and his socialists, assuming you are referring to the AfD.
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  201.  @petrinajc  : Nope. Maduro certainly got more votes. His government said so. Stop being an election denier!
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  202. "if they weren't obviously still a profit-driven capit alist business in N azi Germ any." They weren't. Profiteering was controlled and most if not all the profits went to the government. "Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hi tler & Co. on those German capitali sts and small businessmen who once backed National Social ism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Naz i credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Na zi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Rus sian Com munism." "Ad olf Hit ler: Man of the Year, 1938", Time; January 2, 1939.
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  203. Pinochet in Chile was the complete opposite of a Fascist (which were socialists btw), and what Pinochet did worked just fine. It was even called "the Miracle of Chile".
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  204.  @rickbar123  : Good job.
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  205.  @selfsaboteursounds5273 : You don't even have Capitalism in the US. You have a mixed economy system.
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  206.  @Nazinsky  : Oh it is simple alright, just don't come whining when the traditionalists are the majority and ban LGBQ+ rights etc.
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  207. Except it is not capitalism.
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  208. "How can you have a free market if the market is controlled by monopolies?" Only government regulations can create monopolies. In a free market they are not possible, since they have to obey the supply/demand.
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  209. It's bad for anyone who wants to do business, or have ownership of things in general, or who values personal freedom and liberty.
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  210. The only thing they try to hide... is the fact that those companies were owned and run by NS DAP members or the govern ment directly, and then pretending it wasn't socia lism.
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  211.  @KuangWen0  "Do you know why is Soc ialism created?" Because it gives power hungry people access to centralized power.
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  212.  @KuangWen0  "Do you think Capitalism distribute wealth fairly?" No, and it's not supposed to. In capitalism, your wealth is generally equal to how much you contribute to the society.
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  213.  @rn6312  : Mussolini didn't want to ally with Hitler and was against him initially. However they shared a common threat, Marxism and Capitalism.
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  214. Well yes and no. Comm unism is of course supposed to be a stateless and classless society, however in order to achieve that, there needs to be a proletarian revolution using soc ialism, which in practice means that the proletarians need to take over everything and establish a centralized government. This phase is know as "the dictat orship of the proletariat". Then it is supposed to "wither away" and give way to comm unism.
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  215.  @ParagonFury  "and yet Hitler not only didn't actually practice any principles of socialism " There are no such principles in the first place. Socialism is not an ideology, but an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. National Socialists had the latter, and almost all of the points listed in their 25 program manifesto adhere to this.
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  216.  @ParagonFury  " but the first concentration and death camps were not for ethnic or religious minorities like the Jews; the second group of people Hitler tried to exterminate WERE THE SOCIALISTS." And this is relevant how? Do you have any idea what happened during the Russian civil war, between multiple socialist factions which lead to the October Revolution and the Bolshevik victory? The Gulags were specifically built for the political enemies of the Bolsheviks, such as Mensheviks and later Trotskyists. Stalin's the Great Purge was all about hunting down their socialist rivals. Have you even read any socialist history? There is a reason why every single socialist regime is a one-party dictatorship, and the first to go are the rival socialists.
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  217.  @marzgamingmaster  " If you genuinely believe that those guys were leftists, " It's not a matter of belief. It's a historical fact.
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  218.  @marzgamingmaster  "Hitler branded the party "socialists" because that was popular at the time, " Wrong. Had nothing to do with popularity whatsoever. Their party was branded as such because it signified what they were advocating for, that is, socialism on a national level. Hitler was very clear about this. "After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.” "But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Memoirs of a Confidant (1978)
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  219.  @marzgamingmaster  " and then passed near 0 socialist policies. " Wrong. You should go and read their 25 program manifesto for starters. The whole German industry was nationalized and brought under NSDAP control. It was the German government which decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. This is what we call a Command economy nowadays, part of the socialist economic system. If anything, their economic policies got more centralized as the time went on and at the end they were almost identical with Stalin's USSR.
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  220.  @marzgamingmaster  "I could objectively, perfectly prove every single thing this chucklehead says is entirely wrong." If you are referring to me, then nope, you cannot, since you cannot magically prove historical facts wrong.
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  221.  @marzgamingmaster  " He doesn't want to be right, he wants to win." If you are referring to me, you would be wrong. This has nothing to do with winning. This is all about historical facts and accuracy.
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  222.  @dontmisunderstand6041  : Stalin most certainly was a leftist. He was no capitalist.
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  223.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "The Nazis hated socialism so much that Hitler literally explicitly said his intent was to redefine the way people think of the term, " Hitler has never said that he hated socialism, nor any of the Nazis. They specifically said that they hated Marxism / Communism and Hitler didn't consider it to be "proper socialism" unlike his own ideology was supposed to be. National Socialism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the (racial) State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
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  224.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "The literal first targets of the Nazi regime were the socialists, then the marxists and communists. " They also were the first targets during the Russian civil war i.e. October Revolution, and beyond... by the Bolshevik regime. Your point being? Socialist infighting is nothing new.
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  225.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "Socialism is NOT a strictly economic concept," Wrong. It is. It is as economic umbrella term for political ideologies that advocate for "socialization / collectivization" of the means of production, that is, collective direct ownership or control of the means of production, distribution and exchange of goods.
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  226.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "Hitler's Nazi party literally self-described as being as far to the right-wing, politically," Wrong. They did no such thing. They self-described themselves to be part of the 3rd position movement, against Capitalism and Marxist version of socialism.
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  227.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "Strong government controls and central planning are literally NOT a socialist idea. " Wrong. Centralized, Planned and Command economy models, all are part of the socialist economic system.
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  228.  @dontmisunderstand6041  : Now please stop coping and go read some history, before commenting.
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  229.  @dontmisunderstand6041  Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting.
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  230.  @dontmisunderstand6041  : You corrected nothing, hun. The only misinformation here is from your comments. Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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  231.  @dontmisunderstand6041  : Point any comment I have made which you think is a lie and I will prove you wrong. Do it, hun, or you could stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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  232.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "both are demonstrably incorrect" Except they are not. You corrected nothing. You and your misinformation got corrected. Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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  233.  @dontmisunderstand6041  "Literally anybody capable of reading the english language knows for a fact that you're lying. " Still no lies in my comments, only historical facts. Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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  234. "For example, there democratic governments with socialism. (Think Sweden and Finland). " We don't have socialism here in Scandinavia. We have Social-Democracy, which is a mixed economy system.
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  235.  @TrophyGuide101  "Free speech and free markets are important ideas to most Americans" Nothing to do with Americans. They are important ideas to almost every single human being. The French even had a revolution over those ideas. Only people who are mad, do not want those things.
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  236. "The problem with this program from an American perspective is that it decreases corporate power" Wrong. Has nothing to do with some America. The problem with UBI is that it eventually kills the economy with a perpetuated inflation. It is economics 101.
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  237.  @AeonPhoenix  : Everyone with a brain would. Anything is better than what the government offers.
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  238. Why? What difference does it make exactly in your country? In China, you would hope that they would be owned by private companies instead of the totalitarian socialist government.
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  239.  @morningstararun6278  : You can earn profit with just about anything nowadays, being it simple power tools for fixing and building things. Being it a house for renting. Being it a car for Uber etc. How exactly do you think, this "wrongful" use of personal property is monitored? By a totalitarian entity/collective/government perhaps?
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  240. "unions had power, college was more affordable, and people earned a living wage?" You can get this by making the government smaller in general.
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  241. "How do we go back to when the ric h pa id more ta xes," But you cannot get this type of extortion without making the govern ment bigger.
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  242.  @nopasaran191  "But you definitely would own your own things you just wouldn’t own a bunch of unoccupied housing that you would raise the prices on to make people pay for it for shelter." Ah, so you can own ONE house but how many is too much exactly? Two? Three? and care to elaborate who is gonna monitor and enforce this arbitrary "too much personal property" rule again? a totalitarian regime perhaps?
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  243.  @nopasaran191  "That’s personal property. Your house, your car, your clothes and toothbrush are personal property ... But personal property is much different that private property ..." There is no difference between "personal" and "private" property. It is just property. There is no such distinction in real life. Also here is a question; now that you naively think houses and cars are "personal property", so you would be perfectly fine when someone becomes a landlord and rents the house or when someone puts up an Uber business?
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  244. "A socialist differentiates between personal property (your possessions used by you) and private property (property you own for the purpose of generating a profit from others)." Which is an artificial distinction and doesn't exist in reality. Anything you can lend for a price can be both, being it a car, a house etc. and in order for me to be unable to lend people things or have a 3D printer for example, which I could use to make multiple toothbrushes, there needs to be a totalitarian entity controlling what people can and cannot do with their "personal and private property".
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  245. "The tricky part is the compensation of employees, which also must own their means of production. It is possible." It already is possible in a capita list society. You can put up a business that is public i.e. owned by shareholders or could be owned by all the employees.
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  246.  @decidujay  "She defines what fascism is in the video, dummy. " She doesn't and she has no clue what Fascism is.
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  247.  @decidujay  "The video is all about fascism." This video has nothing to do with Fascism. If anything, it is about National Socialism.
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  248.  @MyBedIsInAWall  "1: Fascism is an, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy." Technically this is not the definition of Fascism. This is a generic definition of every Totalitarian and Dictatorial regime, including the socialist ones.
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  249.  @martinvyslouzil2163  "She defined what fascism is already just watch the damn video and its really gard to define it beucase there is no clear definition of it. " She didn't define Fascism and she has no clue what she is talking about in general. Also Fascism is not hard to define and there is a very clear definition for it.
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  250.  @seilaoquemvc2  "I’d say what really happens is that people like you forget that people has to work while Elon musk do nothing so he can accumulate by himself a crapton of money." Elon Musk doesn't need to anything anymore since he has provided services and products to the people and to the society as a whole, which people are willing to buy and pay for. He already did his share of work.
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  251.  @wesleyleigh8590  : Can you please give us at least one source where Trump talk about being in favor of 1) Socialism, 2) state control over the economy, 3) nationalized trade unionism known as Fascist Corporatism, 4) National Syndicalism in general, or 5) Neo-Hegelianism. Any point will do.
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  252.  @wesleyleigh8590  "it's fascist because he's threatening a group with violence or subjugation, i mean i explain that explicitly enough. " That is not Fascism. That is run-of-the-mill Authoritarianism or Totalitarianism depending on the degree of subjugation.
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  253.  @wesleyleigh8590  "Are you going to pretend that's not how most people would understand it?" Most people (99% of the Americans at least) have no clue about Fascism, what it was, what it meant and what it represented.
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  254.  @wesleyleigh8590  "it's why the phrase Trump used (using the military on the enemy within) immediately invoked the accusation of fascism- not of authoritarianism, was it mate? " What Trump said has nothing to do with Fascism per se.
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  255.  @wesleyleigh8590  " no, people said fascism, only fascism." Because these people have clue about Fascism.
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  256.  @wesleyleigh8590  "just say you don't agree with my definition and move on jesus christ." It's has nothing to do with me nor is this a matter of a disagreement. Your definition has nothing to do with historical facts nor Fascism in general.
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  257. Regulations and government interfering with the market is the problem in the first place.
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  258.  @brianbice1427  "deregulation and privatisation is the problem," Wrong. Prices are high because there is too much demand and not enough supply, and the supply is being restricted by regulations and the govern ment in general.
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  259.  @brianbice1427  "these stifle small buisness, " Small businesses are stifled by strict government regulations such as zoning, which makes building apartments costly, so that already established bigger corporations are mostly the ones who can afford to do it.
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  260. "Your definition of socia lism is actually how cap italists define it." This is not how defining words work. There is a historical definition for socialism: an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) own/control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership/control of the means of production.
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  261. "Socia lism is when work ers own the means of production. No fat cat owners, only workers." That is ma rxism, which is just one of the soci alist ideologies. Socia lism doesn't care about the workers nor any specific group. It only cares about people collectively owning and/or controlling the means of production, distribution and exchange of goods.
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  262. That is because they are ignorant. If only they would take a trip to Cuba to see how soci alism actually works...
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  263.  @partiallyparker  "and supported an attempt to overthrow an election through violence, " Wrong. He did no such thing and there wasn't any kind of an "overthrow of an election" in your country. Try Egypt few years back or Chile under Pinochet.
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  264. "Rather the left would want to organize and rally against an ultimately fascist state apparatus. " Except the Fascist state apparatus back in the day was a leftist creation, based on socialism and National Syndicalism.
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  265.  @diegoherrera1422  : How would that help exactly? If every apartment would be government property, then their maintenance would also be. Now care to elaborate from where would the government get all the money for this again? From you, hun. Everybody would be renting a house from the government, so either your rent would be extremely high or your tax %. Pick your poison.
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  266. Nope.
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  267. Capita lism is not the prob lem. It is the gov ernme nts and their reg ulatio ns which won't all ow it to work prop erly.
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  268. Don't forget that voting is also bad for your "Democracy".
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  269. "How do you fight fascism without feeding into that?" You don't even know what Fascism means nor what it represented. Start from your own education first.
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  270. "They are down right terrified of her, way more than they were of Biden before." No? Pretty sure Kamala is disliked by everybody, even more than Joe. It is the democrat elites who are terrified of her.
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  271. "However, if you were to buy a wedding dress for the sake of renting it out, then it becomes private property" You do realize that people can rent so many things in a similar fashion, right? I could rent my house and start being a landlord. I could rent my car or start being an Uber. Would my house and car now become "private property"? And then get seized? ... if you say yes, then you do realize that you would need a totalitarian entity, being it a government or a group, to enforce this arbitrary and artificial distinction of things with threats of violence?
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  272.  @alexanderl.6207  : Because you are providing a service and could make a profit from it. I doubt you are allowed to practice capitalism inside communism.
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  273. "Mussolini was not a socialist in economy of course, but not a pure capitalist either." Mussolini had a socialist, Command economy. Did you Italians already forget what Corporativismo was? State power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry, where the idea was to let the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production. It wasn't Marxist interpretation of socialism, but it most certainly was socialism, via National Syndicalism.
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  274.  @ka2rwp  "no they weren't look up Hi tler's right w ing Naz i party ... Naz is are far rig ht w ing." Wrong. Hit ler and his na zis were far-le ft also. Nazi sm was a totali tarian far-left, soc ialist ideology based on eth nonationa lism. They had nothing do with fasc ism nor right wing ideologies of any kind whatsoever. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a social ist. That's what made Hitl er a social ist. He may have been right of the Bolsheviks, but he was still a soci alist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hit ler outright declared himself a soci alist in Mein Kampf, just not the Mar xist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socia lism from the rest of the Marx ist crowd.
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  275.  @ka2rwp  "also look up the definition of fa scism it says it's an fa r rig ht w ing is tota litarian,authoritarian government." Wrong. Fasci sm was also a totali tarian far-left, soc ialist ideology but based on nat ional syndical ism instead. Nothing to do with right wing of any kind whatsoever. It was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marx ist socia lism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
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  276. "It will increase quality of life" Nope. It won't.
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  277. " even really hardcore marxist-lenninist-maoists, make a distinction between private property (means of production) and personal property (shirt off your back, tooth brush things like that)" However in reality, there is no such artificial distinction.
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  278. "Socialists are very specific about NOT WANTING TO TAKE PERSONAL PROPERTY. " So are you suggesting that socialists would be just fine with me, renting a house for someone, and being a landlord? ... after all, a house is a personal property, right? or how about me becoming an Uber? after all, a car is a personal property, right? Oh, and if you are Amurican, you could take a quick trip to Cuba and ask how people feel about not being able to butcher their own "personal" Cows for meat. You see while you silly champagne soc ialists in your 1st world countries can make up funny distinctions, in a real socialist country, there are none, hun.
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  279. "The only thing they'll take is means of production." Yet you silly champagne soc ialists do not understand the simple fact that almost everything could be 'means of production' including basic services or even your own body. Just ask the people on On lyfa ns.
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  280. In reality there is no difference between "personal property" and "private property". It's an artificial distinction which doesn't exist in reality. While people probably couldn't turn profit with just a toothbrush, they could do it if they had a 3D printer (which they most likely won't allow you to own) to make more toothbrushes ... or if they would want to rent their house, or a car, or if they even have a simple thing called paintbrush which they could use to paint and sell portraits or paintings in general. Even a piece of charcoal could do. Either way, you would need a totalitarian entity to enforce such "democratization" in the first place and keep the artificial distinction in place, so that the system wouldn't immediately dissipate into free-market capitalism.
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  281.  @bb1televator  "and then you proceed to put forward an example of an apparently magic 3d printer that can produce things on an industrial scale and requires no consumable resources to create things. There is a clear material difference between a factory and 3D printer. One is a backyard hobby tool and the other requires mass labor and resources to operate. To say otherwise is ludicrously reductive and unserious." Obviously there is a difference. Was merely making a point that you don't need to have an industrial scale production to make profit out of things.
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  282.  @bb1televator  "With private ownership out of the way more people will have more things to enjoy and uplift their lives. " Not really, because all you are doing is moving the production management from individual people to the "collective unit" which then will delegate and force other people to work in places or things that the whole community needs. For example if it turns out there are too many people producing toothbrushes and not enough people to fix and clean toilets, then some of the toothbrush producers are delegated and forced to another job.
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  283.  @bb1televator  "You talk about an “entity to enforce” things as if that’s not something that also exists in every current capitalist nation in existence." It indeed does, and it is called the government. Luckily it is a bit more flexible when it comes to allowing people to do whatever they want to do, at least for now. Nothing to do with capitalism though.
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  284.  @bb1televator  "That’s what cops and courts are for under capit alism, they enforce the keystone of capit alism - priva te property." It doesn't need to be enforced. It only needs to be protected from people who want to ste al other's property. There wouldn't be a need for courts and cops if people would just mind their own business and keep their hands to themselves.
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  285.  @bb1televator  " Private property that deprives people of homes, " How? Nobody is entitled to own a home, unless you build one yourself.
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  286.  @bb1televator  "and all manner creative ways to fence off basic things behind rent seeking schemes" You seem to not understand that even these "basic things" don't simply appear out of thin air. Somebody has to make them or work for them.
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  287.  @DNFINST  There is nothing to disagree as it wasn't an opinion. It was a statement of fact. The very reason why every socialist regime turn into totalitarianism, is to enforce this arbitrary and fictional distinction. If these collectivist systems were superior and benefited everyone, they wouldn't require violent enforcement. Why is it that socialists don't have co-ops and communes all over the place? Since they are supposedly superior to human freedom, they would form naturally without the need for enforcement.
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  288. "The extreme Right got us the Holocaust." Wrong. That was far-left.
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  289. Nothing wrong with economic neolibe ralism. That is a step forward and towards a functional society.
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  290.  @hannamakela6989  : Can find those people from any country, mostly from soci alist countries so what is your point exactly?
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  291. A home is someone's property and people should be free to do whatever with their property. There will be no "generational wealth building scheme" if there are no others participating in it. Nobody is forcing people to buy into it.
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  292. "If you choose to use your time to help stray cats (for example - other God Causes are available), then surely that would benefit society as a whole?" Not really, since all you are doing is moving people away from the workforce to do other mundane things and suddenly you realize that the government doesn't get enough money back from the system to pay for your UBI which allows you to do mundane things.
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  293.  @Jatadhari1000  "Sweden is a socialist democracy " Wrong. None of the Scandinavian / Nordic countries have socialism. We have Social-Democracy, which is based on capitalism, but a mixed economy like almost every country in the world.
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  294.  @Jatadhari1000  "China is Maoist communist " Wrong. China nowadays has a mixed economy, but is still mainly a soci alist country... not a comm unist country.
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  295.  @Jatadhari1000  "Trump is a fas cist who builds up a cult of personality ." Wrong. Trump is a capitalist bourgeoisie, which is exactly what the fasc ists fought against.
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  296. @sfperalta: "that the arguments of the proponents are generally based on empirical evidence" Nope. Try again.
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  297.  @leobigelow7021  : It was a reply to the OP, not to you. I agree with you.
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  298. "it would give the common people power. " No it wouldn't. On the contrary, you would be even more dependent on government handouts, and government in general since they can decide how much and why those handouts are given.
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  299.  @NightWing1800  You have no clue about Fascism and you seem to conflate it with National Socialism. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile Regarding Trump, he has nothing to do with Fascism nor National Socialism whatsoever, nor does any American mainstream politician for that matter.
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  300.  @NightWing1800  "when one seated representative literally has self referenced as "A black Nazi"" Who and where?
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  301.  @NightWing1800  "and Trump himself has been making comparisons between himself and Hitler. " I highly doubt Trump identifies as a socialist, unlike Hitler did.
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  302.  @Cienfuegos. : Nothing ethical about forcing people to work like ants, for the collective.
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  303. Liberalism doesn't mean what you Americans think it means. Also Fascism and Liberalism are philosophical and political enemies.
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  304.  @petervizzini4006  : No. Their methods are the polar opposites.
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  305. "PRIVATE PROPERTY DOES NOT MEAN WE WANT TO STEAL YOUR CARS OR RAZORS." You sure about that? So you would be just fine for me becoming an Uber? or lending the car for a fee?
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  306. "Socialists very strongly differentiate between private property and petsonal property." There is no such distinction in real life, only in your head. If you happened to be Amurican, you could take a quick trip to Cuba and ask how people feel about not being able to butcher their own "personal" Cows for meat. You see while you silly champagne soc ialists in your 1st world countries can make up funny distinctions, in a real socialist country, there are none.
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  307. "I would hope, however, that the factory where they are manufactured was held not in private ownership by a single individual or corporate entity but by a common grouping of individuals with a common economic goal in mind, namely, an equitable redistribution of wealth. " And nobody is stopping people from doing just that, right now. No need for enforced collectivism and totalitarianism in general.
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  308. "Now we are seeing that capitalism has completely lost its progressiveness and it is in a deep internal crisis of contradictions" Wrong. There is no crisis and capitalism is doing just fine. The problem is governments in general, not allowing capitalism to work properly.
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  309. "I was disappointed that the difference between personal and private property was not discussed. " Because it is an arbitrary distinction which does not exist in real life.
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  310. " Fasc ism is Capitalism's defense mechanism in the face of a Wo rking Cl ass upr ising. " Wrong. Fasci sm was a soci alist ideology which opposed capita lism. They didn't believe in the ma rxist "class struggle" in the first place.
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  311.  @zelda.1129  "Fasci sm is capita lism in decline" Wrong. Again, fasci sm was a socia list ideology based on national syndicalism. It had nothing to do with capitalism whatsoever. It opposed it.
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  312. "Capitalism, in its truest form, is literally just cutting corners in order to make a quick buck. " Not really. Capitalism in its truest form is pleasing the customer who pays the bills. If you cut corners and still get payed, it is the custo mer who is the suc ker.
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  313.  @popesalty2934  : So are you suggesting that you would have wanted to have a Na zi-esque media where the government dictates what people should and should not hear, see and listen? if not, then care to elaborate what exactly was the problem with deregulation.
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  314. "Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people" Not a single socialist one-party dictatorship helped all the people. In fact the contrary is true, as every socialist regime made everyone's lives worse. Take modern day Cuba for example. Having access to internet, let alone having a computer or a phone is a luxury, yet in every western country those things are common and almost deemed essential items. You don't help people by having a totalitarian government controlling every aspect of people's lives, like what they can own and what they can produce. Socialism doesn't help anyone.
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  315.  @Junebuggly  "But yeah, what Trump is going to do to the LGBTQ community is horrible (if he gets elected of course)" Such as? Trump has been pro rainbow community since the 80s.
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  316. That is what you will get when you give the government more power and add more regulations. Pretty much every single social-democratic country here in Europe and Scandinavia, are "rental societies" because the government has made it so difficult and costly to own things.
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  317. Nothing wrong with your Electorate system.
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  318.  @ixrer  : Your country doesn't have a direct democracy, which is also the fastest way to end up with a one-party dictatorship.
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  319.  @heathercontois4501  : Well, that is what happens when you have a bloated and big government. You Americans had a choice awhile back to vote in Ron Paul, but nope.
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  320. "- Socia lism is just when the workers own the means of production, ie. the factories, tools, and shit. That doesn't mean public ownership by a government or governing body, it just means that the class of people who sell their labor to the people who own the means of production now don't have to do that. " Wrong. You are describing marx ism, which is just one of the so cialist ideologies, not sociali sm itself. Socia lism does not care about the workers or any specific group. It is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) own/control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership/control of the means of production.
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