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Historia, Magistra Vitae
Leeja Miller
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Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Is Civil War Coming?" video.
"We are at a time where the head candidate of the Republican Party stated 'United Reich' in a video to confirm us:" Nope. He didn't and it wasn't even his video in the first place. If you want to avoid mistakes the Germans did back then, how about stop blindly believing in propaganda?
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Nothing wrong with Capitalism.
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"1: We begin unraveling the damage that Neoliberalism has caused us through shitty economic policy -" Wrong. Your government printing money and giving it away to random things and countries is the problem, not Neoliberalism. On the contrary, the more you can keep your government out from the economy, the better.
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"or a competent radical right-winger (think Hitler, Mussolini)" Both had nothing to do with right wing of any kind whatsoever. Both Hitler and Mussolini were devout socialists, i.e. far-leftists.
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@ParagonFury "he claims Hitler was a "devout socialist"" There is nothing to claim, since it's a historical fact. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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" In a cap italist world, information that goes againat billion ares interests WILL be suppr essed." We have yet to see such a thing... meanwhile going against the gover nment however and its narrative, will indeed be su ppres sed.
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"Basic rights for people WILL be lost, liv es WILL be destr oyed. " Will ne ver happen in a Capitalist world, which wants the gover nment to be small in the first place.
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"Your political spectrum is SO far to the rig ht that your rig ht is explicit nation alist fasc ism," ... you do realize that Fas cism was a socia list 3rd posit ion ideology, right? Fa r-le ft and adjacent to Mar xis m.
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"provable fact that capita lism is in con flict with hum an soc iety and educ ation" Wrong. It is not. Ameri c ans like y ou are pa t h et ic.
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You have no clue what Fascism even means.
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"I feel we need to go back into the Lutheran, Presbyterian, and Methodist churches and find God. " Except they are cults, akin to Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses.
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"The most reasonable people are often mainline Protestant." Most of them do not even know God. They only know tradition and think that you only need to believe in God during Sundays or by doing these "sacrament" things invented by their Church fathers. They are closer to Judaism than Christianity at this point.
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"I conclude we need God." True, so go out and start preaching the Gospel then.
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Pinochet in Chile was the complete opposite of a Fascist (which were socialists btw), and what Pinochet did worked just fine. It was even called "the Miracle of Chile".
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@rickbar123 : Good job.
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@ParagonFury "and yet Hitler not only didn't actually practice any principles of socialism " There are no such principles in the first place. Socialism is not an ideology, but an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. National Socialists had the latter, and almost all of the points listed in their 25 program manifesto adhere to this.
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@ParagonFury " but the first concentration and death camps were not for ethnic or religious minorities like the Jews; the second group of people Hitler tried to exterminate WERE THE SOCIALISTS." And this is relevant how? Do you have any idea what happened during the Russian civil war, between multiple socialist factions which lead to the October Revolution and the Bolshevik victory? The Gulags were specifically built for the political enemies of the Bolsheviks, such as Mensheviks and later Trotskyists. Stalin's the Great Purge was all about hunting down their socialist rivals. Have you even read any socialist history? There is a reason why every single socialist regime is a one-party dictatorship, and the first to go are the rival socialists.
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@marzgamingmaster " If you genuinely believe that those guys were leftists, " It's not a matter of belief. It's a historical fact.
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@marzgamingmaster "Hitler branded the party "socialists" because that was popular at the time, " Wrong. Had nothing to do with popularity whatsoever. Their party was branded as such because it signified what they were advocating for, that is, socialism on a national level. Hitler was very clear about this. "After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.” "But we National Socialists wish precisely to attract all socialists, even the Communists; we wish to win them over from their international camp to the national one.” — Memoirs of a Confidant (1978)
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@marzgamingmaster " and then passed near 0 socialist policies. " Wrong. You should go and read their 25 program manifesto for starters. The whole German industry was nationalized and brought under NSDAP control. It was the German government which decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid. This is what we call a Command economy nowadays, part of the socialist economic system. If anything, their economic policies got more centralized as the time went on and at the end they were almost identical with Stalin's USSR.
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@marzgamingmaster "I could objectively, perfectly prove every single thing this chucklehead says is entirely wrong." If you are referring to me, then nope, you cannot, since you cannot magically prove historical facts wrong.
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@marzgamingmaster " He doesn't want to be right, he wants to win." If you are referring to me, you would be wrong. This has nothing to do with winning. This is all about historical facts and accuracy.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 : Stalin most certainly was a leftist. He was no capitalist.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "The Nazis hated socialism so much that Hitler literally explicitly said his intent was to redefine the way people think of the term, " Hitler has never said that he hated socialism, nor any of the Nazis. They specifically said that they hated Marxism / Communism and Hitler didn't consider it to be "proper socialism" unlike his own ideology was supposed to be. National Socialism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the (racial) State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "The literal first targets of the Nazi regime were the socialists, then the marxists and communists. " They also were the first targets during the Russian civil war i.e. October Revolution, and beyond... by the Bolshevik regime. Your point being? Socialist infighting is nothing new.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "Socialism is NOT a strictly economic concept," Wrong. It is. It is as economic umbrella term for political ideologies that advocate for "socialization / collectivization" of the means of production, that is, collective direct ownership or control of the means of production, distribution and exchange of goods.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "Hitler's Nazi party literally self-described as being as far to the right-wing, politically," Wrong. They did no such thing. They self-described themselves to be part of the 3rd position movement, against Capitalism and Marxist version of socialism.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "Strong government controls and central planning are literally NOT a socialist idea. " Wrong. Centralized, Planned and Command economy models, all are part of the socialist economic system.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 : Now please stop coping and go read some history, before commenting.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting.
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@dontmisunderstand6041 : You corrected nothing, hun. The only misinformation here is from your comments. Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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@dontmisunderstand6041 : Point any comment I have made which you think is a lie and I will prove you wrong. Do it, hun, or you could stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "both are demonstrably incorrect" Except they are not. You corrected nothing. You and your misinformation got corrected. Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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@dontmisunderstand6041 "Literally anybody capable of reading the english language knows for a fact that you're lying. " Still no lies in my comments, only historical facts. Again, stop coping and go read some history, before commenting. How many book recommendations do you want?
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"Rather the left would want to organize and rally against an ultimately fascist state apparatus. " Except the Fascist state apparatus back in the day was a leftist creation, based on socialism and National Syndicalism.
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"The extreme Right got us the Holocaust." Wrong. That was far-left.
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