Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "HasanAbi" channel.

@cervvw " national syndicalism does not start from left socialist syndicalism, it had far right roots. " Wrong. It has nothing to do with right wing of any kind whatsoever.
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@cervvw "Nazis are not socialists." Wrong. By definition they are. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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@cervvw : True, but it is a form of socialism (planned / centralized / command economy).
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@cervvw "no, that would make a monarchy socialist, " It can be. Monarchy could be anything. It could exert socialist goals better than any socialist democracy and it could be a better free capitalist economy than any anarcho-capitalist could ever do. It all depends on the monarch.
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@cervvw "which it isn't or even American capitalism would be called socialist which it also isn't. " What America has is called a mixed economy, just like 99% of the rest of the countries in the world has.
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@cervvw "National Syndicalism didnt care about the core of what makes socialism, socialism." You are not making any sense whatsoever. Socialism is not an ideology. It is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production.
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@cervvw : and you are still wrong. Both National Syndicalism and Fascism were socialist movements by definition.
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@mathiasstrom7790 : Historically, the first people who gets eliminated under every socialist regime, are always the rival socialists. You were saying?
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@Brokkr : How is it greed that some jobs simply pay better due to skill requirements for example?
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None of those countries have anything to do with Fascism nor far-right. Also Fascism was a far-left ideology.
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@daviddobarganes9115 "Do you believe the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic republic? It's the same babybrain logic" It certainly is more democratic than certain other socialist countries in the present and in the past... for example, at least they allow people to vote and hold elections in the first place. Meanwhile in a country like Cuba, neither voting nor elections are a thing.
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@eavesdropper0 : L's are what you people have been taking.
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@eavesdropper0 : By definition they aren't, since they aren't deliberately targeting nor eliminating all Palestinians, nor is their intention to eliminate Palestine as a nation. Last time I checked, their intention was to eliminate just Hamas. Regardless, their desert feud is not my concern. Now, how is this relevant to this topic exactly? Modern day politics have nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever.
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@eavesdropper0 "z10n1st defender thinks hes an expert on fasc1sm" Who?
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@eavesdropper0 "Multiple 1zrayli officials have come out and said theyre gonna resettle gaza lol nice try." Imagine being such a smooth brain, that you vote in religious zealots as the head of your government, which want open war with the neighboring state and keeps poking them with rockets... then have a surprised pikachu face when one day those neighbors decide to retaliate. Americans should also remember these wise words; you get what you vote for.
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Mussolini had no anti-socialist policies.
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@Tulkash01 " Its adherents were employed to beat up and kill union members, break up strikes and destroy unionn and leftwing parties properties." and this differs how from what Lenin and Stalin did after the October Revolution?
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@Tulkash01 "(the most famous one: the killing of Giacomo Matteotti). " He got killed because he accused Mussolini's party of election fraud. Nothing to do with socialism.
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@Tulkash01 "On the 14th of november 1925 Mussolini dissolved the socialist party and the only party allowed to exist was the fascist party. " Every socialist regime has done this, including the Bolsheviks. All socialist regimes were one-party dictatorships for a reason.
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@Tulkash01 "So, tell me again how Mussolini had no "anti-socialist policies, please. " Mussolini was anti-marxist, not anti-socialist. Fascism itself was a socialist ideology after all.
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@Tulkash01 "But thank you anyway: we found the fascist." Nope. Cope harder.
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@Tulkash01 "Mussolini got into power because capitalist (agrarian first and then idustrial) endorsed him and gave him money." Initially they backed Mussolini, sure. The fact that the capitalists and entrepreneurs, faced with the alternative of Marxism or Fascism, chose the latter, does not require any further explanation. They preferred to live as shop managers than to be "liquidated" as "bourgeois" by Marxists. Capitalists don't like to be killed any more than other people do.
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@Tulkash01 "In exchange he gave them a State willing to subdue all kind of social movements. " Wrong. Mussolini was the head of the State along side with the Fascist Grand Council. The industrialists were put under the boot of the State. One of those boots were a guy called Edmondo Rossoni.
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@Tulkash01 " (in fact Fascism expoused the belief in Corporativism, which basically meant the fascist State was an intermediary between the capitalist and the workers" Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian) was one of the cornerstone principles in Mussolini's fascism, and had to do with the way society and the economy would be organized, with state power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. It was a system where sectors of the economy were divided into syndicates (which were nationalized Unions that then elected their own members into government as well as democratically run their workspaces. Each profession and field had their own Syndicate, which in turn, operated symbiotically with its composed members), whose activities and interactions were managed and coordinated by the government. The idea was to let the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production.
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@Tulkash01 "Yes. And those were unions only in name because they did whatever the capitalist class wanted." Wrong. There was no "capitalist class", and everyone did what the State told them to do, and what the State wanted.
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@Tulkash01 "Te lo dico in italiano: studiati un po' di De Felice (che NON è uno studioso marxista ed è il più quotato esperto di fascismo), ti farà bene." or you could just go and read some of the works of Sergio Panunzio and stop wasting your time talking about things you do not understand.
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@Tofuwu-co8sx "that all western European countries have had Neo-liberal capitalist governments" Wrong. We have never had such a thing. The only Neo-liberal capitalist government that has existed within the last century, was in Chile under Augusto Pinochet for crying out loud.
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@Tofuwu-co8sx " this is what happened in Germany and Italy before in the 1930's and we are watching it happen again today." Socialism happened during that time, hun.
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@ExiledSummoner : Nope. You need to cope harder than that, and go read some history.
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No. Real communists have died long time ago ... and the wannabe-communists are only "communists" due to living in a free country that allows to have such an opinion. In an actual communist country, they would probably be dead already.
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@Jason: Makes no sense whatsoever considering fa scis m was against the bourgeoisie.
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@kingdomoftransylvania5744 : They literally had a socialist economy, and there is no spectrum for social values, they are not left or right.
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@ryandelgaty5793 " just look at the US currently, or Italy, Germany in the past too ofc but it's bad now too, even Russia right now is an example of fascism rising through capitalism, " They have nothing to do with Fascism whatsoever. And again, Capitalism has nothing to do with Fascism, which would rise through National Syndicalism i.e. socialism.
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@ryandelgaty5793 "socialism combats fascism, " Wrong. Marxism does, not socialism.
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@ryandelgaty5793 "and communism is the literal opposite of fascism." They are only the opposites when it comes to how socialism should be implemented. As created by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, it comes from a belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its dictatorship cannot achieve Socialism, and that only the State can properly organize a Socialist Society.
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