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Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "Right-Wingers RUSH to Defend Italian Neo-Fascists as "Normal"" video.
@Choco Mojo: Except Meloni has never said such a thing.
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@Flying Fesh: Nope. Fa scis m d ied alongside with Be nito and it has not been a thin g eve r sin ce.
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@gordonrehm3350 : Makes no difference if it's laughable or not ... it's called history.
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@gordonrehm3350 : You just have no cl ue what you are talki ng abo ut, that's the pro blem.
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@gordonrehm3350 : There is nothing to address.
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@gordonrehm3350 : It was a factual statement. Has nothing to do with denial whatsoever.
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@gordonrehm3350 : You need to stop def l ect in g so much, it's not hea lthy.
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@gordonrehm3350 : You should go read some history.
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@gordonrehm3350 : There is no thereafter. Fa scis m stopped being a thing after the W W2 ended and nobody has tried it eve r since.
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@gordonrehm3350 : As I sa id, go re ad so me hist ory.
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@scheis123 : Except fa sc is m comes from the f ar-le ft, hun.
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@Lyn Mc Grow: There is no fa sci sm today.
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@Dog.eatdog : there are no such things as "rig ht win g fa s cis ts" ... every f asc is ts was a f ar-le ft so cia li st.
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@Dog.eatdog : Yup. Read some history.
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@Dog.eatdog : Nope, you didn't... since if you did, you wouldn't have made your initial post to begin with.
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@Dog.eatdog : Already have.
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@bjornstahle4652 : Incorrect. They had plenty of so ci ali st policies.
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@steve-ph9yg Mel oni has no m a rx ist background, nor is she a devout so ci ali st like Be nito was nor does she ad voc ate for st atis m; that the st ate sho uld co ntr ol every asp ect of peo ple's live s. You do not und ersta nd what fa sc is m is so how about you go read some history.
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@Uli Loquito: You don't have fa sc is m over there in the US A.
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@d33j4ybf : Meloni is not a s oc iali st and therefore cannot be a fa sc is t. Go read hist ory alr eady.
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@jasonlord718 : It certainly is.
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@d33j4ybf : Incorrect. So cia lis m is an umbrella term and refers to an economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the com munity as a whole. Fa scis m was a political and economic system that rejected capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and com mun ism, in which the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fas cis m was one of the branches of so cia lis m and is right next to ma rxi sm.
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@jasonlord718 : Technically Mus solini wasn't a di cta tor by definition ... compared to someone like Ado lf for example.
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@Kevin Burrell : The government having absolute power is called (state) so ci al is m, hun. I highly doubt your am uri ca n rig ht-win ge rs are adv ocating for f ar-le ft ide olog ies.
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@Sir Equinox: We do, hence why re vol ut i on ar y so c ia l i s m has not been a th ing he re since W W2.
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@NomadSoul76: If Meloni is not a re vol utio nary so cia list like Ben ito and his syn dic alis ts were, then she ain't a fa sc ist. Simple as that.
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@Edwin Maurice Torchon Manrìquez : Sh e is not a so ci al is t and th e refore not a f a s ci st.
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@Oil Can Harry : Except they portr ayed themselves as so cia lis ts.
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#AssociationFallacy
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@Marco Krueger: Hate to burst your bubble, but it is you and people like you, who do not understand what fa sc is m represented and what kind of ideology it was.
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@Kevin Ramsey: Meloni is not a so ci ali st. Brothers of Italy is not a s o cial ist party. They have nothing to do with f as ci sm whatsoever, which has not been a thing since the W W2.
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@Jay Richardson : There are no fa sci st things about it.
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@ptv8113 Sure. Fa s ci sm was one of them, back in the days of W W 2 when it wa s a th ing.
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@ptv8113 : There are no bad aspects and dangerous thinking associated with a nt i-establishment... unless you are a sh ill for the establishment of course.
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@ptv8113 : None of those things have political alignment.
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@ptv8113 : No, just no.
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@hpe3941: Except the dude with a funny mustache was a n ati on al so ci ali st, while Mel oni certainly is not.
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@sisuguillam5109 : How is Me loni a so ci ali st exactly?
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@jimg: Nope, just nope.
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@jack allen : This is li tera lly the op pos ite of fas cis m.
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@ronspri : Except she doesn't.
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Not only was fa sci s m a form of s oc ial is m, it has not been a thing since the W W2.
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@Ļøķį Ýøģį" Meloni's party is not a so ci ali st par ty, so they can not be fas cis ts.
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@spacecase8888 : There are no sc ho lars in the world who would deny that fa sc is m was a f ar-le ft ideo log y due to being a branch of so cia lis m.
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@spacecase8888 : Incorrect. Fa scis m has nothing to do with rig ht wi ng of any kind, and libertarianism would be a "f ar-rig ht" ideology. Fa scis m arose in opposition to capitalism, liberalism/democracy, and co mmu nism. It was a political and economic ideology in which the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism. Fa scis m was pro-union and their corporatism was literally based on (nationalized) trade unionism. Fas cis m was an ti-wealthy since they were fighting with the proletariat against the bourgeoisie. They were an ti-property rights and only allowed businesses to have property as long as they did exactly what the state told them to do. Go read some history.
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@spacecase8888 : Wiki art icle is inco rrect and has no basis in re ality. Simple as that. They have no cre dibil ity anymore.
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@spacecase8888 : What "scholarly consensus" ? You mean the same a m ur ic an people who randomly changed the definition of a re ce ss io n ?
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@spacecase8888 : I don't consider historical revisionists as scholars.
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@avishevin1976 : Incorrect. The fun damen tal differences between le ft-w ing and rig ht-wi ng id eologi es center around the the rig hts of indi viduals vs. the po wer of the gove rnment. Left-wi ng beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the go ve rnme nt. People on the rig ht believe that the best ou tcome for society is achieved when indi vidual rights and civil libe rties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the go ver nme nt is minimized.
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@avishevin1976 : Incorrect. Ri ght-wi ng wants to distance everything from the government. When it comes to fa scis m, it was a branch of so cia lis m and therefore it is contradictory for any rig ht-wi ng movement to suddenly start adopting f ar-le ft po licies.
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@Old Dude: That's not how politics in general work. The fundamental differences between le ft-wi ng and rig ht-win g ideol ogies center around the the rig hts of individuals vs. the power of the gov ernm ent. L eft-wi ng beli efs are liberal in that they believe soci ety is best served with an expanded role for the gov ernm ent. People on the rig ht believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when indiv idual rights and civ il liber ties are pa ramount and the role — and espec ially the power — of the go vern me nt is mini mized.
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