Comments by "" (@Cloud_Seeker) on "Hitler's Socialism: The Evidence is Overwhelming" video.

  1.  @miketomlin6040  So did every single socialist as well. Both Lenin and Stalin killed many socialist. Socialists kill other socialists because they do not support their kind of socialism.
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  2. No. That is completely inline with ALL socialists that has ever existed. There is no unified group called "socialists". They all belong to different factions and believe in different but closely related things. Hitler didn't put socialists in camps. He put people who opposed his ideas into camps. Those socialists were socialists of other factions and other beliefs. It is in line with all other socialists because every other socialists state as done the same exact thing. The left wing always fight among each other. That is one of the main reasons that the Republic lost the Spanish civil war. While Francisco Franco and everyone who was on that side was united against the Republic, the republic was split into different factions that all fought each other. You had anarchists. You have Soviet Marxists. You had independent Marxists. You had syndicalists and more. Eric Arthur Blair, aka George Orwell, fought on the Republics side in the civil war. He had to flee Spain because fighting for the Republic was about as dangerous as fighting against the fascists. After his time with the civil war he was pretty disillusioned by the "socialists causes". To think that all socialists are the same should be like having a european look at the USA and Mexico and say "they are all the same country, no difference at all." Or look at China and Russia and say "they are all the same". Or India and China and say "they are all the same". Sorry bro, but what you just said was stupid.
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  3.  @marlkarx1757  Why does Cole need to define what a "free market" is and why does he need to point out if one has existed or not? You claim TIK does not understand he is using. Cole is only asking you to explain why. You refuse to do so. Maybe you should bring up an example of what TIK is biased on instead of having everyone else trying to read your mind.
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  4.  @freddiefletcher2497  Yet you have to try because otherwise it is only them and their idea that gets any public views.
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  5. And give them the victory and the narrative?
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  6. Did the Communists give the means of production to the workers? No it isn't so the Communists were not socialists. Sorry bro but they were socialists. Just like everyone else who claim they are socialist just wants to move the means of production into the control of the government. If you want the individual workers to own and control the means of production, you should go with Capitalism. Each worker can buy a share in a corporation or start their own business if they want. What "giving the means of production to the workers" actually means is: "All the means of production goes to the state". The state is the representation of the people. If the state owns the means of production, the workers own it as well. The worker is just not in charge over how the means of production is used and will not benefit from it. Hitler was a socialist. He made sure all corporations were aligned to the wills of the state, and if they were not they were taken over. No socialist nation has EVER given the individual any rights of ownership of their work. That very idea is just a big lie.
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  7. They didn't have free markets however. It was controlled and price regulated.
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  8.  @Smoking_Man  Maybe you should read what was said. You clearly have not read what I said and do not wish to actually engage with anything I said. If you are going to say I didn't say something. Provide evidence. You say all socialists are the same but they are not. Stalin and Lenin did the same thing, but I guess you will either say "true socialism has never been tried" or you will not deny that they were socialists.
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  9.  @Schnoz42069  Funny how you say they hated collectivism when their stated goal was to collectivize the German people under one nation. You clearly do not know what they actually stood for.
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  10.  @Schnoz42069  If you think that you still do not understand. Can you please explain the difference between socializing the working class and socializing the german folk?
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  11.  @Schnoz42069  Dude. "with each member of the group having equal ownership" There you just proved you do not understand what collectivism is. Collectivism does not actually mean that you have ownership at all. It means ownership belongs to the government as YOUR share in anything is so small that your part of the ownership is irrelevant. This is why Collectivism is when power is centralized into the state.
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  12.  @Schnoz42069  The state is the society. The state is the representation of society and all its people. When something is owned by the state it is for this reason owned by the public. It is why a a street that is owned by the state is called a public street.
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  13. He never said they were the same. He is trying to prove that the Nazis were socialists as people are denying this fact. To use your example. A lumberjack is someone that cut down trees for a living. A lumberjack can use an axe or a chainsaw to do this. Now imagine that someone came along and said that you can't be a lumberjack if you use a chainsaw to cut down trees. They are not lumberjacks but accountants as they do not put as much energy into the work as others do. You can only be a lumberjack if you cut down trees using an axe. Now that should be silly right? That you arbitrary restrict a profession based made up rules. This is exactly what is going on with Socialism and the Nazis. They are not only trying to deny that they were socialists because they reject Marxism (which is not the definition of Socialism). They are also trying to put the Nazis into the camp where the Capitalists and libertarians by trying to create the idea that the Nazis is a right wing ideology. Nazism is not a right wing ideology. It is just a deflection so socialists on the left wing can blame the right wing for WW2 and the holocaust. It is a political weapon and nothing else. So to use your example again. We have the axe using lumberjacks (communists and marxists) saying that the chainsaw using lumberjacks (the nazis) are accountants (capitalists) because they do not believe in using the same tools (Marxism) as them.
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  14. You also assume that the teachers are not socialists. Schools will not teach you anything. They will teach you what they want you to think and the grade is a messurement in how well you can repeat what they taught you. If a in-depth study of socialism is ever added to school curriculum, it will just be socialist propaganda with the aim to indoctrinate children into believing in socialism.
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  15. What exactly do you think "right wing" is? I am not sure what you mean when they instituted the largest labor union in the world and everyone were forced to join it if they wanted to work.
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  16.  @MochoStudiosYT  Socialism isn't the same thing as Marxist. You are making a massive mistake in thinking that you can only be a socialist if you follow Marxist ideas.
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  17. You have a bad definition of what left and right wing means. How exactly did you arrive at that position without even mentioning that right wing politics also stand for self determination, personal freedom, personal responsibilities and private ownership of property? Also you are just flat out wrong in that "Egalitarianism is the core of leftism". It isn't. There is a reason any large left wing government relies on slave labor to support itself. The Soviet Union only worked because of the Gulag system and all the horrors it include. China only works because they force workers to work long hours with bad pay. Leftism might say they want equality, but everyone will eventually find that some people are MORE EQUAL than other people. The uncharitable views of right wing politics is very much more applied to left wing politics. They might say they do not want hierarchies, but they will be the first to establish a political class of elites that are above other people. They will not ask you for your opinion as you lack the knowledge about yourself to make correct judgements while they do.
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  18.  @landofthesilverpath5823  Very funny that you now make this argument. You say that Leftism goes against reality and nature itself, and all leftists fails to uplive to their ideals but will always try to recreate them even if they always fail. So why do you say the Nazis are Right Wing and not Socialists? You just described that leftists always fail to uplive to their own ideals because it goes against nature. So why were the Nazis just not failed Leftists? Remember that they were only in power for 8 years. That is just two Presidential terms in the USA.
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  19.  @alexgaelsotorodriguez3870  LMAO. WHAT! Right wing socialism exist? What the hell are you talking about. What you are pointing out with Bismarck and Franco is not Right wing but authoritarianism. It is not Socialism.
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  20. He wants to do other videos than Stalingrad.
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  21. Because socialists do not want Hitler in their corner of ideologies. What else are they supposed to call the right wing?
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  22.  @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443  If you think socialists today care about "ideology" you simply do not get it. It doesn't matter. They see socialism in all its form as their ideology. That is why they can not accept National Socialism as Socialism. It should mean that the ideology of collectivization big governments and centralized power structures can lead to evil behavior such as genocide, demonization, persecution and war mongering. They need to be able to call their enemies all of these things as they themselves try to lay the monopoly on utopianism, egalitarianism and righteousness. The fact that they always tend to bring those evil things is something they ignore. It was never "real" socialism after all. You know.
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  23. "Capitalism is inherently corrupt, greedy, unfair and exploitative in nature." - No it isn't. What you are talking about is just life. Life is greedy because everyone who is alive wants more and anything that gives them a easier life. Life is unfair because things are not equal on this planet. Life exploits nature to survive. The only difference between us and other animals is that we can understand how our exploitation will ruin the nature we live in. The Deers that ruined Yellowstone park by eating all the saplings just are not capable of understanding what they are doing.
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  24.  @alexgaelsotorodriguez3870  To me it seems you have a serious case of taking the terms we have today and apply them to the people of the past. I have yet seen any source that say they are right wing. And you have yet proved how they are socialists. Like how exactly do you want to prove that Prussia and Francoist Spain were socialists nations?
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