Comments by "Hiyuke La Vie" (@hiyukelavie2396) on "" video.
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I think it's because of scale
In terms of land area and population, Chinese civilization has achieved a scale that more or less guarantees its survival even in a catastrophic event
And more importantly there are two key points to note about the scale of Chinese civilization
Firstly, it's the way it achieved this scale
When Chinese civilization spreaded, it brought with it learning and cultivation
Look at the areas in southern China like Guangdong
For a very long time, this area was considered "wild", and it wasn't until the Tang dynasty that it was considered fully Chinese
When Chinese civilization spreaded to Guangdong and the surrounding area, instead of genociding or enslaving the people there or exploiting them or discriminating against them, the northern Chinese instead sought to share their civilization with the people there, teaching them about culture and the Chinese way of life
This process took more than a thousand years, but the end result is by the Tang dynasty Guangdong and its surrounding areas finally became fully assimilated to the Chinese civilization and is today an inalienable part of China
Contrast this to the British empire, which mainly sought to exploit and oppress wherever it went. It's no wonder that people booted them out when they had the strength and/or opportunity to do so
The second key point about the scale of Chinese civilization is the resilience that this scale provides
It is almost impossible for a foreign power to conquer China by force alone, because of how massive it is
In its entire history, there had been only a few times when China had been defeated and ruled over by a foreign power
And each time this has happened, the foreign occupiers succeeded not because of overwhelming force
The Manchus, for example, literally spent generations trying to invade China in vain, and in the end they only suceeded because the Ming capital was overrun by rebels, causing many Ming commanders to switch allegiance to the Manchus instead, and even then the Manchus spent most of their rule trying to quell popular rebellions
It's the same with the Mongols. They also spent generations trying to conquer China but couldnt do it. Even though the Mongols had conquered northern China, the Song continued putting up such a good fight, killing a Mongolian Khan and inflicting massive casualties, that when they finally decided to surrender the Mongols were relieved and more than happy to grant them generous terms
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@standin-dc4pf No, you're wrong
People from Guangdong and Fujian weren't fully assimilated into the Chinese civilization until the Tang dynasty
There's a reason why in Cantonese and Hokkien they call themselves 唐人, while other Chinese people call themselves 漢人 in Mandarin
It's also the reason why Chinatowns, which were formed mostly by Chinese people from these two provinces, are called 唐人街, instead of 漢人街
Chinese tea is called 唐茶, Chinese clothing is called 唐裝, heck China itself is referred to as 唐山
You can choose to deny it for your own reasons, but the fact is for people in southern provinces like Guangdong and Fujian, Tang dynasty forms the basis of their Chinese identity, not Han or Huaxia
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@TeleologicalConsistency I refer you to an excerpt of my own comment:
"Look at the areas in southern China like Guangdong
For a very long time, this area was considered "wild", and it wasn't until the Tang dynasty that it was considered fully Chinese
When Chinese civilization spreaded to Guangdong and the surrounding area, instead of genociding or enslaving the people there or exploiting them or discriminating against them, the northern Chinese instead sought to share their civilization with the people there, teaching them about culture and the Chinese way of life
This process took more than a thousand years, but the end result is by the Tang dynasty Guangdong and its surrounding areas finally became fully assimilated to the Chinese civilization and is today an inalienable part of China"
So no, don't be silly, no one thinks you "magically become Chinese" just by stepping on Chinese soil
And you're still wrong in making references to a "Chinese stock"
As I said, Chinese people are actually very diverse. You talking about some kind of "pure and unadulterated Chinese stock" just makes you sound like a delusional racist
And it's also stupid to say China "stayed isolationist"
China might have pursued a policy of "isolationism" (written in quotes because it's not what you think) at some point in its history, but on a whole China has actually been very open and welcoming to people from all cultures
The capital of Song, Kaifeng, was an extremely metropolitan city
Some of Tang's most capable generals were Koreans
The Han also had a policy of encouraging the nomads to go settle within their borders and assimilate into the empire
And so on
Again, it's extremely stupid to look at one singular point of time in Chinese history and declare that China "stayed isolationist"
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