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  14. That's wholly subjective, but would've started the top of this theological genealogy tree with the ancient Canaanite religion as culprit, rather than ancient Israelite religion (which stage of said religion: ancient Canaanite Pagan-J&daism, which is just basically the syncretic Egypto-Canaanite religion but with some emphasis on El-Elyon and not building any temples or shrines in the fashion of the ancient Amorites and nomadic Aramean tribes, as well as of some pastoral Canaanite tribes used to-- Abraham style?? Yahveism?? Post-Ahab reformed Yahveism, meant to distinguish the national religion of the overrulers from the influence of ancient Idumean religion and their very similar Yahveh-like chief deity, while removing polytheistic influence from the Canaanites/Phoenicians and Phillistines??? Or rather Post-Exilic/Second Temple period ancient Israelite Religion , which was heavily influenced by the international sway of proto-Hermeticism/hidden Wisdom of Thoth, pre-Hellenistic period, Babylonian religion and Zoroastrism???) . Added ancient Egypto-Kushite religion as a peripheral influence all over said culprit down to the first schism in ancient J%daism. As well as Buddhism, Dharmic religions, Egypto-Hellenistic Gymnosophism and Gnosticism to the Essenes, Gnosticism again all over varying branchs of early Christianity to post-Nicean Christianity, Arianism, medieval to modern Christian esoterism, Kabbalistic J&daism, Bahaism, and pre-schism Islam; then Egypto-Hellenistic religion, ancient Persian religions and Platonicism as influences all over early Christianity. Mithraism, Hermeticism, Neo-Platonicism, Egypto-Hellenistic Soterianism (of all religions: most any traditional portrayals of Jesus in history from late Antiquity to present times are all LITERALLY based upon the portrayal of the Egypto-Hellenistic syncretic god Soterus: young, lean face of a man in his thirties with Eastern Mediterranean features, long flowing mane of hair and beard, a certain air of virile androgenity, divine figure of the Sun, basically the Son of God) and the Sol Invictus cult upon post-Nicean Christianity, influences from Greek-Roman and other pagan religions from all over the Old World on both Christianity and early Islam, then at last Egypto-Hellenistic religion, Neo-Platonicism, Sophism, Gnoticism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Yogism, Kabbalism, Hermeticism, medieval "proto-Masonism" , Arabian polytheism and Iranian religions upon Sufism and Islamic esoterism.
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  39.  @annasmith572  I have a question about the Bagratoni. Has there any indication about some medieval Georgian Bagratoni prince who may have travelled abroad to marry an Abyssinian princess or female ruler, around the late 9th century to early 10th century CE? I've been running some genealogical researchs on various African royalties and their ancestral connections, based upon genealogical texts and oral traditions and the name of a foreign hunter-prince named "Dingama" pops often in some oral traditions from Central Africa and the Sidamo people of Southern Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda. He was said to be the husband of an empress of the Ba-Shuma named Kudidi in the oral traditions of the Great Lakes: Ba-Shuma being a derogative term to describe a nation of people "semi-foreign" but native to the African civilization, of mixed African and Semitic descent, who came from the north and east-- what some people remembers nowadays as the Axumites or Aksumites, now the Abyssinians or Eritreans-Habeshas of Eritrea and Ethiopia. The Ba-Shumas previously invaded and subjuguated in prior centuries the ancestral rival Cushitic empire that preceded the Kitara Shenzi Empire and its Chwezi (Hima) Dynasty in the Great Lakes, Equatorial Africa and East Africa, what people remembers as the Ethiopian Macrobians and Azanians fabled by Greek geographers and historians; but their descendants managed to secede from Axum following their decline in power in the 630s CE under the reign of a governor of mixed Aksumite and autochtonous royal lineage named Hangi. The Early Chwezi Dynasty reigned over their former dominions over a period lasting about 260 years, until a powerful pyromaniac and bellicose yet holy J--wish-Pagan queen (in allegiance to the common ancient African religion, but mixed with J--daic traditions) native from the Horn of Africa conquerred the region again. Kudidi might be the historic 9th to 10th century Empress Gudit (Judith) or Yodit "Isato" of Agao (Agaw) , Havilah, Damot and Abyssinia, the Queen Arawelo of Somali oral tradition or Queen Furra of Sidamo oral tradition. Prior ascending as a ruler, she used to be married as a princess to a J--wish Abyssinian prince and cousin of hers of mixed Aksumite, Afar and Blemmynae (Medjai) descent from present-day Eritrea, who has been executed: their son founded the Zagwē Dynasty whose descendants would later on rule over all of Ethiopia/Abyssinia until about a half-century before present time. But she later married a second time, this time to a foreign Christian prince remembered by Ethiopians as a "Syrian" named "Zenobius" , inferring that he might have been a direct descendant of Palmyrene Empress, Roman usurping Empress and Queen-Pharaoh of Egypt Zenobia/Zabiba Beth-Zabbai, remembered by Egyptian, Arab and Swahili traditions under the name of Nailah by Egyptians and Arab Egyptians, or of Zabibah Nailah "descendant of Kuwupata" in East and Central Africa (to distinguish her from an earlier Arabian namesake queen in our legends, Zabibah aka Zabibe) . Zenobia was indeed a direct descendant of Cleopatra, which used to be well-known by her contemporaneous native Egyptian subjects, in staunch nationalists they were, who crowned her under the name of her ancestress Cleopatra VII (herself the legitimate daughter of a native Thebean princess, not of Ptolemy Auletes's wife-cousin Cleopatra VI) , thus rejecting the Roman emperors's claims on pharaonic titularship. Zenobius was remembered by the Somalis under the name of Dingama Koyya , husband of Queen Arawelo. Dingama Koyya might be transliteratted as "Zenobius of Georgia" in Somali language. Indeed, medieval Abyssinians has for habit to qualify as "Syrian" any Near Eastern individual native from Syria and the Levant as well as the Christian Near Eastern nations beyond the Syrian desert, but who was not Roman/Byzantine-- which included Georgia and Armenia, countries from which Abyssinia maintained close contacts and political marriages since the 9th century: up to the point that the Bagratid and Armenian dynasts owned some parcels of land property in the Horn of Africa, and vice versa for the Ethiopian royals in Armenia and Georgia. At some point, in the late 11th century CE, the Zagwē Dynasty even had a prince acting as an ambassador at Constantinople, whose daughter married into Byzantine aristocracy: her descendants became an imperial Byzantine dynasty for a while. Dingama/Zenobius had three children from Gudit. The eldest son and his father had been executed by Gudit, following a failed coup d'Etat ran by the two of them. The middle son vanished. Whom to the youngest daughter, remember as Laango by both the Somalis and Great Lake Africans or Sofia by the Abyssinians, it was said that she became co-governess of the Kitara Empire alongside the reigning indigenous Emperor. Either the two of them became a couple or had Laango's matrilineal descent of co-governesses marrying into Chwezi imperial royalty, because long after that the Abyssinians lost their hold into the heart of Africa again and that Kitara became independant once anew, by late 11th century when the vice-roy and porter Bukuku overthre the Chwezi Dynasty and founded a dynasty of his own thay ruled during the hundred-years long itnerrregnum prior the ascent of the Late Chwezi Dynasty, it is assumed that either the last reigning emperor prior Bukuku, or his successor prior the birth of their descendant Rumeza were equally descending from Laango. I found very few information indicating a marriage between Bagratid princes and foreign royals, less about African ones. I wondered if you could indicate me any intel about this matter.
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  42. Three months too late, but y'all already know me: I'm here to be his worst nightmare when it comes down to African historical inaccuracy. Edit: @2:10 Solomonic propaganda. The earlier dynasties (both the Aksumite and Zagwē dynasty) descends back from a pagan demigod named Mahrem, or Maher by some South Arabian tribes. Mahrem/Maher was an anthropomorphic leonine God of W4r and Kingship, born of a mortal man and the Goddess Ashtar: his counterpart in other African kingdoms was the Kushite demigod Apedemek (also known as Maahes in ancient Egypt) , a mythical protohistoric ancestor of both the Royal Kushite and Pharaonic blo%dlines and also God of W4r and Kingship, but also of Blo%dshed and Medicine born from the Goddess Sekhmet (Hathor's warlike avatar) and of a mortal man. Not of Solomon. The historic ties between the Davidic blo$dline and Abyssinian royalty started to establish following a succession of intermariages between J&daicized royalties in Southern Arabian kingdoms and Aksum around the IIIrd to VIth centuries onward, if not earlier (since the IInd century BCE via the connections between South Arabia, Aksum and D'mt) . @2:44 "Considered" . A big word. There used to be richer than him in Africa. The Mali Empire traded frequently with the heart of Africa. @2:49 Less of three minutes in, and so many errors??? The Amazulu Dynasty ( not Zulu Dynasty ) started historically with Zulu kaMalandela (reigned 1627-1709) , founder of the kwaZulu nation which was originally located in Mozambique (with some of their pastoral dominions already well-settled in the Natal) and of their dynasty, not his descendant Shaka kaSensangakhona. Zulu kaMalandela was the son of Malandela kaLuzumana, a Nguni ruler who reigned around the late XVIth to early XVIIth century, and of an Angolan queen named "Nzinga" according some oral traditions: so to speak, Malandela's mother was affirmed to be Queen Njinga/Nzinga "Ana de Sousa" Mbande of Ndongo and Matamba, and thud it could be surmised that Malandela was perhaps Azeze (Aziz) , a local chieftain who passed away in combat in 1603, leaving her widowed with children. Amazulu oral traditions asserts that their ancestors lived in different regions of Central Africa around the 11th to 16th century, were living in present-day Angola nearby the Kwango river for a time in 16th century and intermarried frequently with Bakongo royalty. It is very plausible that they entertained some intermarriages alongside the Ndongo-Ambundu royalty too, due to their common connections to both the Jagas/Yakas or Vangues/Banguis, Imabangalas/Bangalas/Ngalas, Lundas/Vundas and Bakongos/Kongos (as the Amazulus can traces some of their ancestral origins back to the Anamongos, Chwezis and Great African Lakes, as well as to the Kongo kingdom) . Azeze's Africanized Arabic name may or may not indicate that he was of Muslim or Pagan-Muslim faith, least belonging from a family with such roots: which may hypithesizes toward either a Bachenzi/Shenzi (so-called "Swahili" or East African) , Musongye/Songye, Katangan-East Zambian, Muluba/Luba, Mushonge/Shonge or Mozambican descent. @6:58 Mwene Kongo (not its European pronunciation Manicongo) means "Lord of the river" or "Lord of the territory" as Kongo amuse to describe both the region of the mouth of the river Congo inhabited by the Bakongos and their ethnic kindred, as well as an extended territory or stretched-out animal (often cow) skin. This DOES NOT means "mountain" at all!!! Btw, the reason why they were titled "lords" (Mwene) instead of Kings (Nkosi) was because of the fact that the Kongo kingdom was not an independant kingdom originally, but a Principality and fiefship of the Lunda Empire (hence why the "Manivunda" or "Lord of the Vundas/Lundas" blo%dline always had more spiritual and political power in Kongo than any of the Mwene Kongos themselves, least until their demise by the Portugese-enabled Lukeni Dynasty in the 1600s following the decline of the Lunda Empire's econopolitical sphere. The Lunda Empire itseld being a province of the greater Anzicana Kingdom tjat covered much of Central, South-Central and Eastern Africa. The Kongo Kingdom, same as the Lunda Empire, Kuba Kingdom and Luba Kingdom, were nothing short but rogue states. A cohort of Portugese protectorates via Kongo, Arab-Zanzibarite or direct colonial Portugese proxyism, serving to undermine and destabilize the influence of both the Anzicana, Mutapa, Malavi and rogue Zanguebarite/Shenzi Kingdoms in the region. @7:10 What did you just say??? Nzinga "Alfonso I" Mvemba never converted ALL of Kongo into Roman Catholicism: only a portion of his own royal clan, of the aristocracy and nobility. Jesuit missionaries were the ones who attempted the most to approach the common class of the cities and peasantry in the backwater regions with the conversion of Bakongos into Catholicism, and even there their attempts has proven to be not entirely successful until at least the mid-17th century to 18th century: the elites adopted a syncretic mix of Catholic and indigenous religions and hidden Pan-African wisdom older than some of its roots in pre-Dynastic Egypt and Kush, combined with some vaguely scarse echoes of both Ethiopian Pagan-J%daism dating back from the Abyssinians's short-lived conquests in the African Great Lakes, of Dharmic and of South Arabian both pre-Islamic and early Islamic beliefs under a Christian Catholic front, while others - notably the Kongo royalty itself, from the early mid-16th century to 17th century onward - simply and gradually rejected the Christian component wholly after feeling dejected by the r4cially motivated, backst4bbing, heinous treatments that the Portugese and the remainder of the European Christendom reserved toward their people since Nzinga Mvemba's lamented about the permanent ensl4vement and inhuman treatment done toward both his subjects and embassies sent to the plantations in Brasil.
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  48. Three months too late, but y'all already know me: I'm here to be his worst nightmare when it comes down to African historical inaccuracy. Edit: @2:10 Solomonic propaganda. The earlier dynasties (both the Aksumite and Zagwē dynasty) descends back from a pagan demigod named Mahrem, or Maher by some South Arabian tribes. Mahrem/Maher was an anthropomorphic leonine God of W4r and Kingship, born of a mortal man and the Goddess Ashtar: his counterpart in other African kingdoms was the Kushite demigod Apedemek (also known as Maahes in ancient Egypt) , a mythical protohistoric ancestor of both the Royal Kushite and Pharaonic blo%dlines and also God of W4r and Kingship, but also of Blo%dshed and Medicine born from the Goddess Sekhmet (Hathor's warlike avatar) and of a mortal man. Not of Solomon. The historic ties between the Davidic blo$dline and Abyssinian royalty started to establish following a succession of intermariages between J&daicized royalties in Southern Arabian kingdoms and Aksum around the IIIrd to VIth centuries onward, if not earlier (since the IInd century BCE via the connections between South Arabia, Aksum and D'mt) . @2:44 "Considered" . A big word. There used to be richer than him in Africa. The Mali Empire traded frequently with the heart of Africa. @2:49 Less of three minutes in, and so many errors??? The Amazulu Dynasty ( not Zulu Dynasty ) started historically with Zulu kaMalandela (reigned 1627-1709) , founder of the kwaZulu nation which was originally located in Mozambique (with some of their pastoral dominions already well-settled in the Natal) and of their dynasty, not his descendant Shaka kaSensangakhona. Zulu kaMalandela was the son of Malandela kaLuzumana, a Nguni ruler who reigned around the late XVIth to early XVIIth century, and of an Angolan queen named "Nzinga" according some oral traditions: so to speak, Malandela's mother was affirmed to be Queen Njinga/Nzinga "Ana de Sousa" Mbande of Ndongo and Matamba, and thud it could be surmised that Malandela was perhaps Azeze (Aziz) , a local chieftain who passed away in combat in 1603, leaving her widowed with children. Amazulu oral traditions asserts that their ancestors lived in different regions of Central Africa around the 11th to 16th century, were living in present-day Angola nearby the Kwango river for a time in 16th century and intermarried frequently with Bakongo royalty. It is very plausible that they entertained some intermarriages alongside the Ndongo-Ambundu royalty too, due to their common connections to both the Jagas/Yakas or Vangues/Banguis, Imabangalas/Bangalas/Ngalas, Lundas/Vundas and Bakongos/Kongos (as the Amazulus can traces some of their ancestral origins back to the Anamongos, Chwezis and Great African Lakes, as well as to the Kongo kingdom) . Azeze's Africanized Arabic name may or may not indicate that he was of Muslim or Pagan-Muslim faith, least belonging from a family with such roots: which may hypithesizes toward either a Bachenzi/Shenzi (so-called "Swahili" or East African) , Musongye/Songye, Katangan-East Zambian, Muluba/Luba, Mushonge/Shonge or Mozambican descent. @6:58 Mwene Kongo (not its European pronunciation Manicongo) means "Lord of the river" or "Lord of the territory" as Kongo amuse to describe both the region of the mouth of the river Congo inhabited by the Bakongos and their ethnic kindred, as well as an extended territory or stretched-out animal (often cow) skin. This DOES NOT means "mountain" at all!!! Btw, the reason why they were titled "lords" (Mwene) instead of Kings (Nkosi) was because of the fact that the Kongo kingdom was not an independant kingdom originally, but a Principality and fiefship of the Lunda Empire (hence why the "Manivunda" or "Lord of the Vundas/Lundas" blo%dline always had more spiritual and political power in Kongo than any of the Mwene Kongos themselves, least until their demise by the Portugese-enabled Lukeni Dynasty in the 1600s following the decline of the Lunda Empire's econopolitical sphere. The Lunda Empire itseld being a province of the greater Anzicana Kingdom tjat covered much of Central, South-Central and Eastern Africa. The Kongo Kingdom, same as the Lunda Empire, Kuba Kingdom and Luba Kingdom, were nothing short but rogue states. A cohort of Portugese protectorates via Kongo, Arab-Zanzibarite or direct colonial Portugese proxyism, serving to undermine and destabilize the influence of both the Anzicana, Mutapa, Malavi and rogue Zanguebarite/Shenzi Kingdoms in the region. @7:10 What did you just say??? Nzinga "Alfonso I" Mvemba never converted ALL of Kongo into Roman Catholicism: only a portion of his own royal clan, of the aristocracy and nobility. Jesuit missionaries were the ones who attempted the most to approach the common class of the cities and peasantry in the backwater regions with the conversion of Bakongos into Catholicism, and even there their attempts has proven to be not entirely successful until at least the mid-17th century to 18th century: the elites adopted a syncretic mix of Catholic and indigenous religions and hidden Pan-African wisdom older than some of its roots in pre-Dynastic Egypt and Kush, combined with some vaguely scarse echoes of both Ethiopian Pagan-J%daism dating back from the Abyssinians's short-lived conquests in the African Great Lakes, of Dharmic and of South Arabian both pre-Islamic and early Islamic beliefs under a Christian Catholic front, while others - notably the Kongo royalty itself, from the early mid-16th century to 17th century onward - simply and gradually rejected the Christian component wholly after feeling dejected by the r4cially motivated, backst4bbing, heinous treatments that the Portugese and the remainder of the European Christendom reserved toward their people since Nzinga Mvemba's lamented about the permanent ensl4vement and inhuman treatment done toward both his subjects and embassies sent to the plantations in Brasil.
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  49. @0:01 I am here and back to give some nightmares at @UsefulCharts once again. He better have made a detailled map of Obama's patrilineal lineage. Edit (yeah, so soon!) : @1:56 the name of this body of water is now (and has always been) officially Lake Nyanza (or Nyanza) . Not Victoria. We are not great fans of colonial names in most African countries. Second Edit: @2:28 Not forcibky an erroneum, but Baraka rathers refers to its Swahili meaning (which is exactly the same in Arabic) . Obama is a princely Luo surname - as Luo people dwelling east of Nyanza doesn't have a monarchical system of kinglets and united kingdoms, but rather of Principalities and High Chieftainships. Well, I disgress-- - which means "Fiery Celestial Javelin" and holds homonymous kinship to various Central African royals from the Great Lakes region/Central Northeast Africa and the Congo basin, such as the Ilunga/Olenga Dynasty sho reigned over the Kingdom of Anzicana and some of his fiefdoms from early 14th century AD to its dissolution by colonial European powers around 1885-1891; and many others via intermarriages between Nilotic headships and other royals in Middle African, as well as a common royal BaChwezi heritage between Obama's patrilineal lineage and various Central African royalties dating back to the Chwezi Dynasty of the Kitara Empire (c. 630 AD - early 14th century AD) . Thus, Baraka Obama roughly means "Holy Fiery Javelin Descending From Heaven" , a very powerful naming laden with ancestral mystical significance in Africa. At last, I see that you've stopped the genealogical tree of Obama's paternal line to his grandparents. Bery dissapointing. We can literally trace Obama's patrilineal ancestry back to his 8th great-grandfather 16th century Nyanza Acholi princeling and warlord Owinyi Rac Koma / Owinyi Ramogi of the Nyanza region (c. 1544 - c.1571) ; foremost founding headship of the Kenyan Luos east of Nyanza, son of Sigoma, son of Rukidi Rugwe/Mwiru & Princess Nyatooro, daughter of Princr Nyabongo, descendant of the princeling Olimi I of the Banyoro-Kitara, descendant of Rukidi I / Labongo who founded in 14th century the petty mixed Luo/Acholi/Chollo-and-Chwezi-descended kingdom of Banyoro-Kitara (14th century-late 19th century) which succeeded to the fallen Kitara Empire after overthrowing their Chwezi/Hima overlords. Obama's paternal heritage is very ancient and renowmed in Africa: we can trace his paternal origins not just to the Kenyan plains and hill-lands east of the Nyanza Lake, but also to the Kitara region, eastern DRC, the Nilotes of South Sudan and the Nuba Mountains, the Nobataes of Roman antiquity, the triumvirate of Christian Nubian kingdoms in present-day Sudan, ancient Kush, the Aksumite Kingdom/Abyssinia via the Jewish (later Christian) Aksumite kings of Adulis and Aksum in late 3rd century AD and 9th century AD Pagan-Jewish Empress Gudit alike (after their nation conquerred the Great Lakes region and East Africa twice over the 1st Millenium AD) , the Ethiopian Macrobian overrulers of the Azanian Empire in Hellenistic then Roman Antiquity, the Bagratidae Dynasty of 9th century Georgia and the South Caucasus region (via a second marriage between Gudit and a foreign "Syrian" or Georgian Christian prince) , Near Eastern royals of Antiquity and the early Middle Ages (including the Davidic Exilarchate) , the Hellenistic kingdoms, ancient Rome, ancient Numidia; and at last but not to say the least Pharaonic Egypt (thrice, via both his distant Upper Nile Chollo, Chwezi and Abyssinian-Bagratid heritage) , and moreso Puntite royalty dating back to the legendary tribal Anu Dynasty (Imanujela or Ba-Tembuzi Dynasty for others) of African prehistory, whom the latter legendary Anu-domineered House of Keb/Geb (fabled dynastic tribe whom the God Osiris and his brethren belonged to, in Egyptian mythology) was spawned forth.
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