Comments by "Yazzam X" (@yazzamx6380) on "Motherboard"
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@evgeniam685 - There's nothing wrong with the term conspiracy theory, except to conspiracy believers who try to turn that term into a conspiracy (typical :-D).
It's FAR more respectful (and honest) than the stupid derogatory names being thrown around by some, like "Flearthers" or "Flatties" or "Flattards" or "Hoaxers" or "Truthers/Troofers" etc.
Conspiracy - Definition: A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful
Apollo hoax believers claim the NASA used billions of dollars of tax payer's money to fake the moon landings and hence it has been covered up by government(s) ever since.
How is that not a conspiracy?
Flat Earth believers claim governments and authorities have hidden the truth about the Earth being flat and hence forced the lie of a Globe Earth upon us for centuries.
How is that not a conspiracy?
Therefore anyone who comes up with theories about such a claimed conspiracy is a conspiracy theorist! Those who believe the claims made by those conspiracy theorists are conspiracy believers!
It's as simple as that, and therefore objections to the term "conspiracy theory" or "conspiracy theorist" or "conspiracy believer" is unfounded.
Hence I don't say "Flattard", I say flat Earth believer or conspiracy believer/theorist. I don't say "Hoaxer", I say Apollo hoax believer or conspiracy believer/theorist. Likewise, rocket hoax believer, Mars rover hoax believer, ET alien/UFO believer, and so on.
It doesn't make any difference whether the conspiracy is true or not, if something is claimed to be a conspiracy then the theories are conspiracy theories and the believers are conspiracy believers :-)
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@asifhashimov3202 - You said "You want facts? OK, just explain what they used to cool their suits, and, how they did it."
The temperature range in space at our distance from the sun is the same whether you are in low Earth orbit, or half way between the Earth and the moon, or standing on the moon's surface!
That's because space is a vacuum, there's no air and hence no temperature, therefore they quote the minimum and maximum temperature that objects may reach when in space (depending on what they're made of).
Hence an object in the sun in may gradually heat up to 250 F when in the sun for long enough, and may gradually cool down to -250 F when in the shade for long enough!
So Google Search: Space Suits Temperature, and READ the links you find.
Notice that (for the reasons I provided above) those links tell you that astronauts face the SAME -250 F to 250 F when out on spacewalks in low Earth orbit as astronauts walking on the surface of the moon.
The point is, if you're going to claim that temperature range is impossible for spacesuits on the moon, then that SAME temperature range must also be impossible for spacesuits in low Earth orbit, and so you would be claiming that's a hoax too!
If you accept the fact that spacesuits work in low Earth orbit for spacewalks lasting up to 9 hours in that temperature range, then spacesuits will work on the moon too.
Any questions?
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@jamiek911 - Again, hearsay my friend.
The point being, anyone can claim they saw this and saw that or heard this or heard that, but that's not solid evidence, even if they were in a position to have seen/heard what they claim.
He is human after all, hence capable of lying, delusions, exaggeration, distorted memories, mistakes, false assumptions, etc :-)
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@ellefleming5113 - Again, that Apollo press conference took place 3 weeks after the astronauts returned from the moon (they spent those 3 weeks in quarantine), where that press conference was work for the astronauts, who provided a presentation which was then followed up by a question and answer session with experts.
Many today (like yourself) who watch that press conference assume it was a celebration of the astronauts returning from the moon, where you also assume it occurred hours or at most days after they returned, which is why you think the astronauts don't appear as happy or as relaxed as they should, and so you assume something is wrong (i.e. that they're not excited, or scared, or depressed etc).
But look at Neil Armstrong and the other astronauts just ONE WEEK EARLIER during quarantine on his birthday - how depressed do they look to you here?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6P1wBNHqnU
They couldn't look happier, especially Neil.
And look at Neil Armstrong in front of the troops in Vietnam, where again he couldn't look happier if he tried and is clearly relishing the moment;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSKCaxx58Bg&t=385s
Is that really an astronaut who is depressed to you? Be honest now :-)
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@Arielelian - You said "Contrast that "normal" behavior with the press conference and it's quite a night and day difference. They're closed, nervous, fidgety, etc."
Now go ahead and present those same astronauts in previous press conferences to show that their behavior is any different when effectively in a debriefing, because to this day no-one has done that.
Also, they are astronauts, not geologists or astronomers or physicists etc, where we can see they are more comfortable and relaxed when answering questions within their fields of expertise (eg. spacecraft control), but naturally less comfortable answering questions within fields they learned through training such as astronomy and geology (hence Neil said "sonar corola" instead of "solar corona" in his reply to the astronomer Patrick Moore).
It's rather naive to expect the astronauts to be as relaxed and as confident in answering questions related to astronomy and geology etc to experts in those fields as they are when answering questions about flight and controls.
And I fail to see any loss of composure by any of the astronauts during the conference (i.e. where it matters), so that comment from you is unfounded.
Besides, this is over 50 years ago and yet I'm still waiting for just ONE established and hence credible body language expert from any nation to come to the same conclusions as certain self-confessed body language 'experts' on forums ;-)
After all, what are you seeing that the world's top body language experts are ALL somehow missing?
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@AM87422S - Just making it up as you go along is not helping your case.
The problem is, because of TV and the media, people like yourself today have been conditioned to expect certain behaviours. Therefore because the astronauts didn't enter that press conference with massive grins on their faces, 'high-fiving' everyone on the front row and then took to their seats chanting "U-S-A" while whooping and wailing every 5 seconds, you think something must be wrong ;-)
The fact is, most astronauts back then were ex-test pilots, men who used to risk their lives every week testing out new experimental aircraft, in a career that saw the death of one test pilot per week (did you know that?). Hence such men preferred to just get on with their job and leave the PR to others. Therefore the vast majority of astronauts back then absolutely HATED doing press conferences! Most hated having to sit there answering question after question. Most hated the PR that went with the job (and it often showed).
Today, astronauts are expected to be as good at PR as they are for the technical aspects of their job. Without those PR skills, they wouldn't make it. Hence someone like Neil Armstrong wouldn't be chosen as an astronaut today, regardless of his skills as a pilot.
The astronauts had no choice but to do the press conferences of course because it was part of their job (we see that same dislike of press conferences today from some top sports men and women, whether they win or lose).
Therefore all I'm seeing in that Apollo 11 press conference are the astronauts behaving exactly how professions were expected to behave back then in a televised press conference, especially THREE WEEKS after returning from the moon, with Michael Collins possibly the most relaxed and comfortable out of the three.
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