Comments by "Yazzam X" (@yazzamx6380) on "Motherboard"
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@gabrielliee07 - Simply put, you didn't understand the point I made Gabrielle.
Astronauts are experts in the FLIGHT, CONTROL and OPERATION of spacecraft, aircraft and related equipment, there's no-one better qualified at the press conference to answer such questions than the astronauts, and so for questions in those areas the astronauts are fine and comfortable and hence it's obvious in their replies.
But they are NOT experts in astronomy, chemistry, geology, photography and numerous other fields, only competent enough through training to carry out their roles as astronauts in such areas, hence they were less confident and more nervous when answering questions in those fields, resulting in the astronauts being more focused on getting the details correct.
So when, for example, the late astronomer Patrick Moore asked the astronauts a couple of questions, including if they could see stars despite the glare of the sun in their eyes, they needed to focus to answer the questions of someone who is an EXPERT in astronomy, unlike themselves. We even notice Neil Armstrong (who is not an astronomy) incorrectly say "Sonar Corola" instead of "Solar Corona", the kind of error he would never make about the Apollo spacecraft that he knows inside out.
So come on, are you really saying that you think the astronauts should be experts in every field of science and engineering related to space travel? That they shouldn't be fluttered or nervous or even make a few errors answering technical questions from experts in fields of science and engineering that they are not experts in themselves?
Think about it :-)
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@gabrielliee07 - The original footage was not destroyed Gabrielle, hence you can find hour after hour of original Apollo footage here on YouTube (eg. Search for: Apollo EVA).
What was lost was NASA's backup copy of the first moonwalk for Apollo 11, which NASA only made in case the live TV broadcast to the world failed.
But because the live TV broadcast worked and hence the whole world saw the moonwalk, NASA's backup was redundant, it wasn't needed, and hence it was lost (probably the tapes reused). In other words, all that was lost was a backup of the SAME TV broadcast that we've all seen for over 50 years.
None of the other Apollo 11 footage was lost, and nothing was lost from Apollo 12, 13 (failed mission), 14, 15, 16 or 17.
Conspiracy theorists took the news of NASA losing their backup footage of the Apollo 11 moonwalk and twisted that into a claim that ALL the original footage was lost.
That's the problem with conspiracy theories, where they put sensationalism and exaggeration ahead of truth every time :-(
I hope that information helps to show that it's not what conspiracy theorists claim, but yes, lets agree to disagree.
Thanks for the discussion :-)
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@Michael Jackson - I find it amusing when ignorant people like yourself refer me to a video by Eric Dubay talking about Apollo!
Eric Dubay, the flat Earth theorist who recommends Bart Sibrel's Apollo hoax documentary and calls it "excellent" and "well researched".... despite the fact that the SAME documentary that Eric applauds shows the Earth to be a GLOBE, says space is real, says satellites are real, says spacecraft are real, says rockets in space are real, says men in low Earth orbit are real, etc... ALL CONTRADICTING the flat Earth claims of Eric Dubay and his gullible followers :-)
In other words, Eric promotes and praises a so-called "excellent" and "well researched" documentary that says his OWN flat Earth theory is WRONG, a lie, nonsense!
And yet that's the same Eric Dubay that you expect me to take seriously :-)
You need to learn how to think for yourself child.
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@MattGalter - In other words you have no counter arguments, only pointless one liners.
For example, you posted "Haha if u think u know truth, then you're lying to yourself"
Precisely the same pompous nonsense said to me by flat Earth believers, ISS hoax believers, concave/hollow Earth believers, hollow moon believers, chemtrail believers, alien UFO believers, paranormal believers, ghosts/spirit believers, etc.
It's the same classic egotistical attitude that I see from so many conspiracy/alternative believers who imagine themselves to be the intelligent enlightened ones while everyone else are idiots, asleep, sheep, indoctrinated, etc.
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@narajuna - And from later in the SAME book by Bill Clinton;
"Oleg wasn’t the only friendly Russian I encountered. President Nixon’s policy of detente was having noticeable results. A few months earlier, Russian television had shown the Americans walking on the moon. People were still excited about it and seemed to be fascinated by all things American. They envied our freedom and assumed we were all rich. I guess, compared with most of them, we were."
"On my last night in the now-barren Oval Office, I thought of the glass case I had kept on the coffee table between the two couches, just a few feet away. It contained a rock Neil Armstrong had taken off the moon in 1969. Whenever arguments in the Oval Office heated up beyond reason, I would interrupt and say, "You see that rock? It’s 3.6 billion years old. We're all just passing through. Let's calm down and go back to work."
That moon rock gave me a whole different perspective on history and the proverbial "long run." Our job is to live as well and as long as we can, and to help others to do the same. What happens after that and how we are viewed by others is beyond our control. The river of time carries us all away. All we have is the moment. Whether I had made the most of mine was for others to judge."
"I also flew to the Johnson Space Center in Houston to discuss our newest shuttle mission to conduct twenty-six experiments on the impact of space on the human body, including how the brain adapts and what happens to the inner ear and the human balance system. One of the crew was in the audience, seventy-seven-year-old senator John Glenn. After flying 149 combat missions in World War II and Korea, John had been one of America’s first astronauts more than thirty-five years earlier. He was retiring from the Senate and was itching to go into space once more. NASA's director, Dan Goldin, and I were strongly in favor of Glenn’s participation because our space agency wanted to study the effects of space on aging. I had always been a strong supporter of the space program, including the International Space Station and the upcoming mission to Mars; John Glenn’s last hurrah gave us a chance to show the practical benefits of space exploration."
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@john wayne - You said "Ow that's so cute you believe people who even a child can tell are lying"
Says the believers of practically every conspiracy theory out there, and so by your logic every conspiracy theory must be correct despite contradicting each other :-)
You couldn't say how you know people have been into low Earth orbit, so lets take another approach, the Soviet Union, i.e. the USSR.
To believe it was fake you must also believe the USSR with their brilliant scientists and engineers who had their own advanced space program together with tracking technology (the USSR landed several unmanned craft on the moon in the 60s and they landed a spacecraft on Venus in 1970) were ALL too dumb and ALL too blind to spot a blatant fake by the USA.
More so, the USSR were too dumb to spot exactly the SAME FAKE of sending men to the moon NINE TIMES IN A ROW from 1968 to 1972, with six of those missions landing on the moon.
It's either that or the USSR were in on a conspiracy against themselves, which makes no sense :-)
To highlight my point further, the USSR landed two remotely controlled car-size rovers on the moon in 1970 and 1973 called Lunokhod 1 and Lunokhod 2.
Both rovers had TV cameras and radio antennas, and hence that allowed Lunokhod 2 to be driven 37 km across the lunar surface over a period of 4 months under remote control (thanks to the TV broadcast);
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So if the USSR had even the slightest suspicion of a fake landing, no matter how small, then they could have landed a Lunokhod rover at ANY of the Apollo landing sites at ANY time and explored it themselves to be sure, broadcasting the TV images back to Earth, and there would have been nothing that anyone could have done to stop them.
But they never did that because the USSR knew 100% that the USA had successfully landed men on the moon.
So which is it John? Were the USSR collectively too dumb to spot 9 fakes in a row, or they were in on a conspiracy against themselves... or maybe, just maybe, the USSR knew the USA had won the manned space race to the moon!
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