Comments by "Yazzam X" (@yazzamx6380) on "Johnny Harris" channel.

  1. What is the highest altitude you've reached please? And what maps are you using to navigate (if you don't mind me asking :-))? It's just that I'm not sure if you're doubting the Earth is a globe or doubting we can see curvature at such altitudes.
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  2.  @rafaelburgos8337  - Please tell us more about your magical hydrogen balloon satellites that can remain in the exact same position in the sky for year after year after year, not even moving during the strongest winds or the most severe storms, and hence balloons that never move left or right or back or forth or up or down :-)
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  3. Do you believe the Earth is flat? :-|
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  4.  @innis2gbor  - Did people always need to see our towns and cities with their own eyes from many miles up to know its shape and to know the shape of the roads and streets? Or were people able to work it out from the ground and create accurate maps of our towns and cities for centuries without needing to see it from the air?
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  5.  @Random_user_8472  - I took your comment to be you complimenting those who now believe the Earth is flat on the basis that they learned how to think for themselves. If instead it was sarcasm from you, then it wasn't obvious :-)
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  6. Perhaps that's because the title of this video is "Why People Think the World is Flat"? Just a thought :-)
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  7.  @TheCollages  - Lets start with "1" Are you one of those flat Earth believers who claim the North Star (Polaris) never moves in our sky, hence it remains in the exact same spot in the sky year after year without even the slightest movement?
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  8. What has that got to do with the shape of the Earth? :-|
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  9.  @answerstotoviasinger6742  - Your question is irrelevant and your insults are rather immature. You seem to be unaware that for around 2000 years Christian churches have only ever said the Earth is a GLOBE, albeit a stationary globe for most of that history. To this day, you will not find a single Christian church that says the Earth is not a globe. So are Christian churches and the Bibles they produced for Christians to read part of the same 'problem' too? :-)
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  10.  @Seth0303  - Then go ahead and give a few examples of the things you 'know about' that you believe to be mind blowing to others please :-)
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  11.  @GeorgeJettson-u2y  - Interesting. So many flat Earth believers I debate place great importance upon what we can observe and hence what our senses tells us, and yet you have no comment to offer on the 7 videos of curvature that I presented to you. Why is that? :-)
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  12.  @GeorgeJettson-u2y  - And for context, can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. firmament dome or no firmament dome? Edge of a flat Earth (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon during eclipses? etc. Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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  13.  @GeorgeJettson-u2y  - In other words you don't know the flat Earth you believe. It would make a change if flat Earth believers like yourself who are unsure of the details of your flat Earth can just demonstrate the backbone to say you don't know :-|
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  14.  @GeorgeJettson-u2y  - You said "You’ve failed to answer my question. At what scale does it change?" That's not a question, that's an assumption. The curvature is always there, the water is never perfectly flat, therefore it is for YOU to prove your assertion of perfectly flat water FIRST before you can claim there's a change :-) You said "Images seen at a great distance through the atmosphere do very strange things. Including making disappear bottom up on a relatively flat surface." Hence I can play the SAME game and ask you "At what distance of atmosphere do the strange things you claim start to happen and why?" Therefore that's another assumption from you, where you would first need to prove that an atmosphere over a flat surface would produce refraction that would make distant objects appear lower than they actually are.
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  15.  @GeorgeJettson-u2y  - So go ahead and explain how YOU would see and measure curvature of just the width of a human hair across a 50 meter swimming pool where even the tiniest ripple would be higher than that! No excuses please :-)
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  16.  @GeorgeJettson-u2y  - You said "500yrs + It has been the common understanding and scientific fact..." As stated already, people have known the Earth is a globe for around 2500 years, eg. the ancient Greek and Romans, and for around 2000 years ALL Christian denominations/churches have only ever said the Earth is a globe. No church said the Earth is flat. The only difference is, those I mentioned above believed in a stationary globe Earth for most of their history. 500 years ago Copernicus theorized that the GLOBE Earth was not stationary and at the center of everything, but instead orbited the globe sun along with the other globe planets. Any questions? :-)
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  17. You said "Fyi they trian pilots using "flat eart" maps of the world." No they don't, where that's as foolish as saying buildings are flat because the architectural plans are flat :-) ALL maps used for navigation are 2D projections from a GLOBE of the Earth, hence they are called projection maps. That is, the globe of the Earth is flattened out into flat maps (of different shapes) for convenience, where the lines of longitude and latitude on the maps are taken from the globe to allow us to work out the co-ordinates of any location on Earth, no matter what shape the map is.
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  18. For context, can you state which space mission by any country you accept has been to the moon or beyond? Or at the very least, state the space mission by any country you know has gone into space and explain how/why you know?
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  19. Why? Is there a problem for you with the main Bible? :-)
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  20. Sure, we can take it that the Earth is a globe because it's a proven fact, just as 2+2=4, not because that's what people have been told :-)
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  21. So getting back to the topic, are you really saying you believe the Earth is flat? :-)
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  22.  @martinkdoorstoperception.1913  - You said "and maps on the globe are way off, africa can be smaller then america on one" Thanks, but that's the key point my friend, maps on a globe are accurate, where they are the only accurate undistorted maps of the entire Earth. Take for example a map of your city, which is small enough for the curvature of the Earth to have no effect on the map, and so your city map can be flat and accurate. So find a map of your city with a bar scale (giving you the distance scale of the map in miles or kilometers) and you will be able to measure the distance between ANY two locations on you map and it will match the distance measured in the real world. That proves your city map is accurate....
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  23. .... Likewise take a globe of the Earth and you can work out the bar scale by dividing 24,900 miles by the circumference (the distance around the equator), eg. for a 12" globe the scale works out as 26 miles per millimeter. Now use a measuring tape to measure the shortest distance between ANY two locations on Earth in millimeters, multiple those millimeters by 26 and you will get the distance in miles. The distance you measure will be accurate for ANY two locations on Earth no matter where they are (taking into account the margin of error in your measurement and the quality of the globe)....
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  24. ... Because of this, I have asked flat Earth believers over several years to give me just two locations on Earth where the distance measured on the globe doesn't match the distance measured in the real world, since that would prove the globe is not accurate. After all these years later I am still waiting for those two locations. So consider the following please... If you wrapped your city map around a globe then it will be distorted and therefore inaccurate, therefore how can a map of the Earth wrapped around a globe be perfectly accurate if the globe is not the correct shape of the Earth to being with? :-)
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  25. So who should I listen to when it comes to the interpretation of the Bible? All Christian churches throughout history who say the Earth is a globe? All the biblical scholars from those churches who translated the original Hebrew and Arabic texts to produce all the Bibles you've read who say the Earth is a globe? The Creationists who take the Bible literally who say the Earth is a globe? Over 2 billion Christians worldwide who say the Earth is a globe? Or should I listen to some random people on the net who claim the Bible says the Earth is flat? :-)
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  26. Heads up - YT may have hidden my last 2 replies to you (i.e you can't see them in your notifier window). To see them, sort the comments of this video by Newest First and then open this thread.
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  27.  @BillsBlenz  - What makes that flat Earth horizon claim so ridiculous is that the horizon would also drop on a flat Earth! The difference is the horizon on a flat Earth (whether assumed to be the edge of the Earth or the maximum distance visible to us across the surface of the Earth) would appear to drop SLOWER than the horizon on a globe Earth as the altitude increases. The belief that the horizon magically rises up to eye level no matter how high we go is due to a lack of understanding of geometry and mathematics :-|
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  28.  @BillsBlenz  - No that's you showing your lack of education (sorry but it's true :-|). Lift your thumb up until it's level with your nose please. So which part of that means flat? :-) You said "....there is good reason we all call it "sea-level" and not "sea-curve."" Sea level refers to the average HEIGHT of the surface of the sea, hence if something is below the surface of the sea then it is below sea level, and if it is above the surface of the sea then it is above sea level, and therefore 10 feet above sea level at any location means 10 feet above the average height of the sea. Level is relative, not absolute. Hence remaining X distance above a surface is level and hence will mirror the shape of that surface, i.e. level is straight for a plane, level is curved for a globe. Water is only 'level' due to gravity. In weightless conditions water will try to form into a sphere, it never flattens out.
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  29.  @BillsBlenz  - You said "Surveyors, engineers, architects, and builders are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects." Because flat Earth theorists told you? Lets imagine YOU build a railway line yourself where you lay the track down piece by piece following the landscape. Please explain why you think you would need to take into account the curvature of the Earth, especially when the landscape will go up and down by more than the curvature of the Earth and hence you'll just be following that landscape. And don't quote from Eric Dubay's "200 proof" claiming what someone has said, quote from credible sources for such claims, not from flat Earth theorists. Besides, read proof number 125 in Eric's ebook and tell me if you can see the HUGE error :-)
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  30. ???
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  31. In reference to Isaiah 40:22. In many languages, including English, words can have multiple meanings, ranging from subtle differences to complete differences. A ball looks like a circle from any angle, therefore a circle doesn't mean flat. Here is Isaiah 40:22 from various Bibles; King James Bible (1611); "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth..." Douay-Rheims Bible (1582); "It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth..." New American Standard 1977 Bible; "It is He who sits above the vault of the earth..." Peshitta Holy Bible Translated (1st or 2nd Century AD); "And him who sits on the sphere of The Earth..." New American Bible; "The one who is enthroned above the vault of the earth..." Catholic Public Domain Version; "He is the One who sits upon the globe of the earth..." Aramaic Bible in Plain English; "And him who sits on the sphere of The Earth..." Matthew's Bible (1537); "That he sitteth upon the circle of the world..." That's because the Hebrew word 'chug' being translated by those bibles means "a circle, sphere, used of the arch or vault of the sky" (Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon). So circle, globe, sphere and vault have ALL been used for Isaiah 40:22 by various bibles. No Christian church in history has ever said the earth is flat, only a globe.
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  32. For example? :-)
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  33. The Bible doesn't explicitly state the shape of the Earth.
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  34.  @CarsSlavik-mt2rt  - And now you prove you believe everything that flat Earth theorists tell you without doing your own research and hence without thinking for yourself :-| So lets take your claim and I quote " there is no independent travel anywhere near Antarctica circle"....
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  35. Use the technology at your fingertips to look for; Antarctica Tours What did you find please? :-)
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  36.  @CarsSlavik-mt2rt  - Now to address your Antarctica excuses. You do know that the South Pole in Antarctica is the one location on Earth that flat Earth theorists and flat Earth believers claim doesn't exist. Right? You do know that you and any flat Earth believer who can afford it can book onto a trip to the South Pole in Antarctica. Right? So wouldn't it be easier for just one of you to go on such a trip to carry out any experiments you need on location to prove once and for all that the South Pole doesn't exist? :-)
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  37. Use the technology at your fingertips to look for; South Pole Trips What did you find please? :-)
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  38.  @CarsSlavik-mt2rt  - Denial is not an answer, denial is not evidence, denial only proves MY points, so thanks for that :-)
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  39. Except it doesn't. The Bible doesn't explicitly state the shape of the Earth.
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  40. [Reposted] But should anyone object to their education teaching them that 2+2=4? Is that programming too? :-) Facts matter regardless of the educational system, and hence the Earth being a globe is not a belief, it's a proven fact, and therefore such proven facts should be taught in our schools.
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  41. Those who decide reality is whatever they want it to be are effectively inside a prison without walls of their own making :-|
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  42. You said "...but there isn't solid evidence for neither." Which is incorrect, people have known the Earth is a globe for around 2500 years. You said "None of you flew up high enough to see the earth. So how are you so convinced?" Do you need to fly up high enough to see your entire city from altitude in one view to know that maps of your city are accurate? Did those who made the accurate maps of your city fly to high altitudes to create them, or was most of that work accomplished from ground level? :-) How do you think such maps are proven to be accurate?
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  43. And I'm sure everyone here believes you :-)
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  44. The Earth is a globe my friend :-)
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  45. You said "But i think for myself" Which is exactly what you failed to demonstrate in your comment here. So go ahead and present your own independent flat Earth evidence that hasn't been stated by any flat Earth theorists please.
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  46. So........ you're saying you believe the Earth is flat Bernard? :-|
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  47. The flat map you speak of is the Azimuthal Equidistant map, the map known to most flat Earth believers as the GLEASON MAP, a map that Alex Gleason himself said in his patent was a projection from a GLOBE Earth with 2 poles! That's right, even Alex Gleason who wrote a flat Earth book couldn't find an accurate undistorted flat map of a flat Earth and so he used a 2D projection map of the GLOBE Earth instead. Btw, anyone who parrots the tired old cliché "wake up" cannot be taken seriously :-)
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  48. Before answering that question, can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. firmament dome or no firmament dome? Edge of a flat Earth (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon during eclipses? etc. Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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  49.  @rayjack400  - Also, would I be correct in assuming you're not a Christian then?
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  50. Look to "Antarctica Trips" and "South Pole Trips". Aren't they beyond the 60th parallel? And regarding flat Earth, the South Pole is the only important location because all flat Earth theorists and flat Earth believers claim the South Pole doesn't exist. So ask yourself why no flat Earth theorist has ever booked onto a trip to the South Pole to prove it's fake. Instead, flat Earth theorists claim we can't go there to stop their believers from asking questions :-)
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