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Comments by "Yazzam X" (@yazzamx6380) on "Joe Rogan u0026 Lawrence Krauss on why Flat-earthers exist" video.
Yes it's fine to question, but the problem starts when people think they know it all and so they automatically reject the answers to their questions :-|
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So can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. firmament dome or no firmament dome? Edge of a flat Earth (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Gravity or no gravity? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon during solar eclipses? etc. Or do you believe it comes from the Bible? If so, then what's your understanding of a Biblical flat Earth? Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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@marcoddy6812 - Lol! This reminded me of the video "Key & Peele - Text Message Confusion". My apologises and thanks my friend :-)
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So can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. dome or no dome? Edge (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Gravity or no gravity? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon? etc. Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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@danialcrockett614 - You said "The moon is not real its a projection set up by an ancient extremely advanced civilisation that unfortunately got wiped out with an asteroid 12000 years ago." I genuinely laughed out loud at that one :-)
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Where online can I pull up videos or pictures of the edge of a flat Earth with the ice wall up against the firmament dome? :-)
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"devil jehovah"?
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Can you list 5 conspiracy theories over the last few years that have turned out to be true. I'm curious to see if there's a pattern. Anyway, the idea that a conspiracy theory is more likely to be true because of other unrelated conspiracy theories is a false argument :-|
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@marcoddy6812 - Thank you for your list, because it highlights the point I wanted to make, because putting aside the validity of your list, there's a difference between conspiracy theorists based upon opinions and information we have access to and conspiracy theories based upon claims that established facts are a lie! The Earth being a globe has nothing to do with science or governments, we don't know the Earth is a globe because scientists and governments said so, instead people have known the Earth is a globe for around 2500 years, where for thousand of years people in all walks of life and in multiple fields have made use of our knowledge of a globe Earth to the benefit of all. Therefore it's not the same, not even close my friend :-)
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@marcoddy6812 - No, you gave me 5 that in YOUR opinion turned out to be true, and NONE of them are comparable to claiming the Earth is not a globe. So lets get to the point that you conveniently sidestepped given the topic... are you REALLY saying you have doubts that the Earth is a globe? Do YOU believe the Earth is flat? Explain why you think the proven fact of a GLOBE Earth is comparable to any of the 'conspiracies' you've listed.
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@marcoddy6812 - You said "no, the earth is provably spherical." And that where it ends, because on this video about flat Earth I'm addressing your opening comment of "Look at how many things were labelled conspiracy theory over the last few years that have turned out to be spot on" where I'm saying this does not apply to the shape of the Earth, and you agree. Hence it doesn't matter if every conspiracy theory for the last 50 years has turned out to be true, that still has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth since the shape of the Earth is not about what any govt or group says, flat Earth is not the same type of conspiracy theory as those you listed, and therefore the conspiracy theory that the 'elite' have lied to us about the shape of the Earth is wrong. That's my point :-|
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@marcoddy6812 - Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better :-)
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It's actually relatively easy to prove the Earth is a globe with evidence that you, yes you, could check yourself. Evidence that doesn't require science. Proving the Earth is rotating is secondary, since it's typically called Flat Earth Theory, not Stationary Earth Theory :-)
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That's to be expected due to the way cameras work. For example; Google Image search; Full Moon Photography Where are the stars? Google Image search; Full Moon Selfie Where are the stars? Google Image search; Telescope Mars Where are the stars? Google Image search; Full Moon Sports Stadium Where are the stars? Google Image search; Moon Airplane Photography Where are the stars? Google Image search; Parking Lot at Night Where are the stars? The camera exposure settings required to capture brightly lit objects (clearly and in focus) is too fast to capture the stars at the same time, hence the examples above. That's why we also don't see any stars in the background of photos and videos of astronauts in low Earth orbit. I hope that helps :-)
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So can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. firmament dome or no firmament dome? Edge of a flat Earth (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Gravity or no gravity? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon during solar eclipses? etc. Or do you believe it comes from the Bible? If so, then what's your understanding of a Biblical flat Earth? Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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@450farf - Cut the hypocrisy please when you're the person who cared enough to post your opinion to random people on the internet :-) If you don't know the flat Earth you believe, then just say so and move on.
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@450farf - In other words you don't know, so thanks for the admission. Still, I did enjoy your paranoia and your little 'bot' accusation at the end. Nice touch, so original ;-)
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The same narrative that allowed you to post your message that people all over the world could read and reply to :-)
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@danialcrockett614 - Fine, although I was laughing at you, not with you :-) Can you really not see the flaws in your claim? :-)
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@danialcrockett614 - In that case I wish you a swift recovery. All the best my friend :-)
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In other words you believe the Earth is flat? :-| Btw, the shape of the Earth has absolutely nothing to do with science.
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Are you saying you believe the Earth is flat? :-|
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Not quite, because no Christian church in history has ever said the Earth is flat, they have only ever said the Earth is a globe, hence billions of Christians know the Earth is a globe. However, a tiny minority of gullible Christians listen to those who tell them the Bible says the Earth is flat.
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@acidspaz4252 - Since when are flat Earth theorists and websites and artists and other PEOPLE the same as established Christian churches? NONE of those images comes from actual Christian Churches. So before making such requests, go and present an image of your "Bible Firmament" produced by an established Christian church, and NAME that church please :-)
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@acidspaz4252 - Christian churches/denominations for nearly 2000 years have ALL said the Earth is a GLOBE. None of them have ever said the Earth is flat, where for centuries the churches adopted Ptolemy's 140 AD model of the universe as doctrine, a model that placed a GLOBE stationary Earth at the center of the universe. Why? Because you can find verses in the Bible that explicitly says the Earth is stationary, but none that explicitly states the shape of the Earth.
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@acidspaz4252 - In other words, the only thing Christian churches had in common with flat Earth 'theory' was the idea that the Earth is stationary and at the center of everything. Therefore belief in a flat Earth is not a Christian belief, only a GLOBE Earth is, where a flat Earth never has been and never will be supported by Christian churches. Those who tell you the Bible says the Earth is flat are attempting to corrupt your faith :-|
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@acidspaz4252 - To highlight my point further, here's something I'd like you to research; "Globus cruciger" Tell me what you found please.
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@acidspaz4252 - You continue to prove my points perfectly :-) Not only are you unable to name ONE Christian church in history that says the Earth is flat, not only are you admitting you don't know what the "Globus cruciger" is, but you actually think Galileo's problem with the Catholic Church has anything to do with this :-) As I told you already, for most of Christian history the Churches believed the Earth was a stationary GLOBE and everything revolved around a stationary GLOBE Earth. Galileo proved the GLOBE Earth moved and therefore THAT was the problem for Christian churches. That is, BOTH Christian churches and Galileo agreed the Earth is a globe, but Galileo saying the Earth revolved around the sun was heresy to those churches. So your own quote proves my point, because YOU CONFIRMED that the only problem Catholic churches had with Galileo was him saying the Earth revolves around the sun. They saw NOTHING wrong with Galileo saying the Earth is a globe because they knew it was a globe :-) Try reading your own quotes carefully next time. Is that clear? :-D
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@acidspaz4252 - So now you effectively admit all Christian churches say the Earth is a globe, you cannot find just one that says it's flat :-) You said "Go look at every single depiction of the "biblical Firmament" show me one that isn't flat earth" First you need to show me a depiction of the "biblical Firmament" that comes from an established Christian church. I'll save you the time, there are none :-)
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@acidspaz4252 - In contrast Christian churches gave us the Globus Cruciger; Quote "The globus cruciger (Latin for 'cross-bearing orb'), also known as "the orb and cross", is an orb surmounted by a cross. It has been a Christian symbol of authority since the Middle Ages, used on coins, in iconography, and with a sceptre as royal regalia. The cross represents Christ's dominion over the orb of the world, literally held in the hand of an earthly ruler. In the iconography of Western art, when Christ himself holds the globe, he is called Salvator Mundi (Latin for 'Saviour of the World'). For instance, the 16th-century Infant Jesus of Prague statue holds a globus cruciger in this manner." Next? :-)
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@acidspaz4252 - Perhaps you can find a Planus Cruciger ;-) That way the Earth would be represented by a flat disc, instead of the Earth being represented by an ORB, a globe, as seen with the Christian Globus Cruciger.
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@acidspaz4252 - So now you try to hide behind misrepresenting Biblical verses. Classic :-) I asked you very clearly and I quote "show me a depiction of the "biblical Firmament" that comes from an established Christian church." So why are you unable to do that when YOU are the person who brought it up multiple times in this thread? :-)
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So can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. firmament dome or no firmament dome? Edge of a flat Earth (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Gravity or no gravity? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon during eclipses? etc. Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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So do YOU personally challenge flat Earth believers, or do you ignore them? :-|
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@deweyturnbow121 - Given the topic and your comment, it was reasonable to think you may be a flat Earth believer :-) But anyway... The problem with your request is that it's not clear what you're really looking for, because the Earth rotates once a day, that's HALF the rotational speed of the hour hand of a standard analog clock (which makes two rotations per day). So if you had a 5 minute video of the whole Earth from space, then it will probably look the same at the end as it did at the beginning, you would barely notice any change. Therefore to see rotation requires timelapse, such as a video where an image of the Earth was captured every 5 minutes. After all, when you look at the hour hand on a clock do you see it as spinning, or just rotating very very slowly? :-)
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Are you saying you believe the Earth is flat? :-|
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@tylermaxwell1172 - So can you say which version of a flat Earth you believe please? A brief summary in your own words would suffice. I ask because there are many versions to choose from, i.e. dome or no dome? Edge (finite plane) or no edge (infinite plane)? More land and seas beyond the ice wall? Pillars or no pillars? Gravity or no gravity? Globe sun and moon or flat sun and moon? Rahu and Ketu, or just the moon? etc. Once you say which flat Earth you mean, then your comments here will be in context of your flat Earth.
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@tylermaxwell1172 - If however you're saying you don't know the shape of the Earth, then you would be in no position to claim others are wrong about the Earth :-|
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