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The prequels need a do-over because they're garbage - the prequels are at least as bad to the OT as the sequels are to the prequels. But maybe Disney isn't who should be doing the do-over of them, given their track-record. But Kennedy is now restrained, LucasFilm is going back to re-examine what Star Wars is intended to be by George Lucas, and George Lucas himself is reportedly involved in retconning the prequels (which badly need retconning). So, this might be the perfect time and way to retcon them and to create new prequels. The prequels are at least as bad to the OT as the sequels are to the prequels.
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The prequels suck and need complete revamping if they want to be anything decent. The original trilogy is the only good set of movies in the Star Wars series.
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Jay Morales The prequels have consistency with themselves, but not with the original trilogy. The prequels are very different in style and quality of writing, quality of acting, difference in seriousness, and in general touch compared to the original trilogy. I tried re-watching the prequels not too long ago, each one of them, and I couldn't make it through any of them. They all register very high on the cringe-meter.
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@BattleHardenedGames I can understand liking the prequels out of nostalgia, but if they're looked-at objectively, I think it has to be acknowledged that they're goofy messes, and disasters to the Star Wars name. Even George Lucas admitted it when he said at the post-production screening that he thinks they went too far with the goofiness of TPM. And the Midichlorian stuff spoils the mysticism and mystery of the force and shouldn't have been done. Plus, the movies become too legalistic about what a Jedi is, and then AotC and RotS tried to walkback from that but then screwed up in its attempt to do so, with Ben Kenobi saying, "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" - which is an absolute, and so therefore Ben Kenobi must be a Sith according to his own words.
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@joegrim1849 Not at all. What I said is completely correct. You must extremely-low standards when it comes to films.
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The prequels are garbage and non-canon - just like the sequels.
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@RoxDZoro I didn't say that. I said the prequels aren't canon. Anakin becoming Vader is a part of the SW back-story and isn't dependent on the prequel films being canon.
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The prequels don't qualify as great stories. They're as much messes compared to the OT and the sequels are compared to the prequels. The prequels were the first big pile of garbage in the main Star Wars film series.
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The prequels are as bad to the OT as the sequels are to the prequels. The prequels definitely require massive retconning or replacing.
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@jb1918 The prequel trilogy doesn't have a decent story, characters, acting... Maybe if the story was presented in a very different way than it is, it could become something good. But as it is, the prequels are unwatchable.
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@jb1918 Why would I work for Kennedy, when the movies she created are absolute garbage, similar to the prequels? Both the prequels and the sequels are absolute garbage. Are you a "hater" because you recognize that the sequels are garbage? No, you're correct. You're just incorrect in claiming that the prequels are not also garbage. The prequels' story is incompatible with the OT, and Lucas didn't realize his screw-ups while making the prequels until it was too late to fix them.
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@jb1918 Lucas made more than a few mistakes with the prequels: The story is weak, the characters are insincere and goofy, the philosophy of the force is messed-up in the prequels, the acting is extremely stiff and is overall bad, the costumes are too perma-pressed and the environments are too fake-looking... There's more negative than positive to say about the prequels.
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@jb1918 Actually, the consensus from the time the movies released was that they're bad. You're seeing people who like the prequels here because this is a channel by someone who likes the prequels and so they've attracted viewers who like the prequels. And on a channel that sees the prequels as being garbage, there'd be a lot of commentators agreeing that the prequels are garbage. Episode 2 and 3 are also unwatchable - and I tried to watch them recently, but couldn't make it through them. Go preach to an echo-chamber, if that's your thing, but the prequels don't come close to living-up to the OT.
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@jb1918 I'm not wrong. What I've said is correct. The prequels are awful. It's ironic that you're criticizing the sequels while not doing the same for the prequels, which are just about as bad. Guess what? In 15 years, there will be people who grew-up with the sequels telling you to "shut the hell up" when you try to criticize them, because they like them due to nostalgia. Nostalgia is fine. But objective thinking can be employed at the same time, and if you look at the prequels objectively, you should be able to recognize that they're nowhere near as good as the OT and they're filled with bad writing, characters, dialog, acting, visuals, etc.
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@jb1918 Of course you do. Otherwise, you wouldn't be replying to me and telling me that you can like the prequels if you want to and trying to convince me that the prequels have something resembling a decent story.
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@patdaddya5109 Speaking of having no sense, if all that it takes for films to be considered good is that their stories are connected and related, then the bar has been set to a new low. That's like arguing films are good because there aren't apparent issues with the grammar used in them. But, while the the prequel trilogy is somewhat consistent within itself, it's not consistent in style and quality, or in treatment of the force with the OT. Even within itself, there was some inconsistency with the prequels, with Lucas trying to walk-back on some of the mistakes he admitted he made in TPM. "Only a Sith speaks in absolutes!" - the moment Obi Wan Kenobi revealed that he's actually a Sith.
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Too late: They already are a complete and utter disaster.
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The prequels are definitely also garbage and needing a redo.
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Jay Morales No, I'm right. George had lost his sense of what the movies were when he made the prequels. When he was making the original trilogy, he stated that he was making the films that he, as an adult, wanted to see. But after the prequels were receiving huge flak, he rationalized them by saying that they (the prequels) were kids films. And during the making of the prequels, after TPM, George said he thought they went too far with with the silliness of the movie. And they definitely went much too far with it. Also, George made up a bunch of legalese for Jedi behaviour in the prequel trilogy, and then half-way through them, realized how rigid it made things seem and that it was incongruous with how the force is presented in the original trilogy, so he then back-tracked on it and started counter-rationalizing those explanations between characters in AotC: Ben Kenobi - "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" - Which is an absolute, which means that Ben Kenobi is a Sith. So, the prequels aren't consistent within themselves. And they are much less consistent with the original trilogy. Again, the prequels are messes from a compositional standpoint, and they don't convey any of the same touches as the original trilogy. George writing and directing them doesn't change that. When he made them, he wasn't in-touch with the same things he was when he crafted the original trilogy - and the original trilogy was far from just a George production. The OT was made with input and decisions by many people who made those films better than George's intention for them was, and George had no choice but to allow others to take control of aspects of the OT. But with the prequels, he exercised full control over them and didn't take any outside input. He just did what he wanted and everyone nodded like yesmen because no-one could say no to George or tell him that an idea stank. OT and prequels are very different in design and quality. And I would say that the prequels have more that's bad about them than that's good.
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@davidshakarisaz6364 You disagree, but the prequels are still garbage and incomparable to the quality of the OT.
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And the prequel trilogy, which is as bad compared to the OT as the sequel trilogy is to the prequels trilogy.
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@megaman37456 Not really. But if you think they're overrated, then what are you defending the pile-of-garbage prequels for, while criticizing the sequels which are not that much worse than the prequels? You're all over the place. The OT is great. And whatever you think of it, the prequels and sequels are total garbage relative to the OT.
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@megaman37456 I've seen you try to explain yourself and come-up short. If it's just an opinion, as is yours, then you wouldn't call people who hold opinions different than your own delusional. That you call others delusional for voicing a different "opinion" means that you take your opinion to be more than an opinion. It cannot be argued that the prequels are anywhere near the quality of the OT.
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Naw. The prequels are awful need complete re-writing. They're incompatible with the OT and they're as big a step into garbage from the OT as the sequel trilogy is from the prequel trilogy.
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@megaman37456 No, the prequels are awful and they aren't compatible with the OT at all. In fact, the prequels, like the sequels, are downright unwatchable - I tried, the level of cringe in them is simply too much. Saying that the OT is as poorly-written as the prequels means that you don't pay a lot of attention to movies while watching them, and tend to shut your mind off and just look at the visuals - which might explain why you like the prequels. Nevertheless, people like you are likely the reason why George got away with the SEs and the prequels in the first place, and why he thought selling to Disney was acceptable. People who make blind rationalization for bad content, as you're doing here, are why series keep getting ruined in the hands of other people who don't have perception for those series.
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@quandalaa Naw. They're Lucas' own fan-fiction based on his previous creation, but a version made for kids and people who like bad acting.
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@quandalaa Yup. George himself said he went too far into silliness with the prequel, and made the force too legalistic. Doesn't work as canon.
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@AlexJones-zc4qf What does combat choreography have to do with it (though the prequel choreography is pretentious). The prequels just suck.
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@AlexJones-zc4qf That's not how they come across to me. They have a totally different writing style, attitude, level of seriousness. George Lucas wasn't the only contributor to the story of the OT. He had lots of bad ideas changed or improved by people around him. But there was no-one to reign-in his bad ideas for the PT.
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@yoyo7718 I'm not a boomer. And the prequels aren't good Star Wars films.
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@yoyo7718 If that's how you describe what you're doing, then who am I to argue?
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@jb1918 I hate both the prequels and the sequels. Neither are canon.
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@jb1918 You sure you're not crying over the prequels facing a retconning? I think it's great that they are and I'm looking-forward to seeing what Lucas and whoever's helping him does with them.
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@patdaddya5109 Think about the phrase "Only a Sith speaks in absolutes!". That line was one of Lucas' efforts to walk-back on his mistakes in TPM, where he made Jedis and the force seem too rigid and legalistic with mottos and rules for proper conduct. However, Lucas' effort there to disown what he established in TPM was incompetent because if the phrase is true, then it means that Kenobi is a Sith, because the line he says is an absolute. And that's just one example of the prequels not being consistent within themselves.
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I strongly think that both the sequels and the prequels need complete re-doing. The prequels are awful.
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@rhaelfixer2584 Maybe relative to the prequels and OT. But when the prequels released, they were as bad compared to the OT as the sequels are compared to the prequels. The sequels are just the next step in worsening garbage from the prequels, like the prequels are from the OT.
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The prequels are abysmal. I definitely want retcons to them - heavy retcons. It's only the original Star Wars trilogy that's good from the official movies. The prequels definitely have a lot more weaknesses than strengths, themselves, and they're inconsistent and incompatible with the original Star Wars trilogy. Without comprehensive retconning of the sequel and prequel trilogies, Star Wars as an ongoing franchise can't be anything particularly good because the bulk of its main story (the prequels and the sequels) is garbage.
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With Kennedy restrained and Lucas on board, Disney shouldn't be able to make them worse than they already are. With so much room to improve, hopefully they can only get better.
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@megaman37456 Nope. What I've said is correct. You're just revealing that you have extremely-low standards when it comes to films - in which case, you shouldn't be criticizing the sequel trilogy, when the prequel trilogy is almost just as bad.
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No, I definitely want retcons - heavy retcons. Only the original trilogy is good from the existing Star Wars movies. The prequels are garbage, and the sequels are also garbage. Without comprehensive retconning of the sequel and prequel trilogies, Star Wars as an ongoing franchise can't be anything particularly good.
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@TheWolfman112 Oh, hush. My opinion is widely shared by many. The reason why there aren't many people saying it here is because most people who think the prequels are garbage aren't spending time chasing after the dead husk that is Star Wars. And obviously even Disney and Lucas think the prequels aren't that good, because they're looking to retcon them. And calling them not that good is a euphemism - they're garbage. The writing is cringy, the acting is stiff, the world looks way too perma-pressed and fake, the lame humour is out of place, there's no particularly interesting narrative in it... they're all around awful.
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I couldn't watch either of them when I tried recently. They're awful.
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@stevenbaxter9099 I was referring to Attack of the Clone and Revenge of the Sith. However, looking again at your initial post, I see that you mention Clone Wars, and not Attack of the Clones. So, I partly mistook what I was responding to.
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