Comments by "S. Moore" (@SMoore-vj7bt) on "Why Mexico Could Become a Superpower" video.

I am living in Mexico (American State National by birth) with residente temporal (to be permanent 2025) and Mexico is advancing very rapidly. I do like Mexico a lot, and I like the Mexican people. Development reminds of my time in the Philippines from 1990s to 2020. The main issue is Spanish language and unwillingness of Latin Americans to learn English. They just are not interested to speak English. Whereas Filipinos and Indians are very willing to speak English. I for one would not apply my s/w development business to Spanish speakers. I would hire only English speakers. Look I already invested a lot of effort to become fluent in two Filipino languages. I do not have time to learn Spanish right now and English speakers in my business do not have time to learn Spanish. The Spanish speakers need to make the time if they want to team up with the leaders in software which are still the English speakers at this juncture. Heck I find it difficult even to work with Indians because their English pronunciation is so difficult to understand. Note this issue will not impinge on Mexico in the areas where it can excel such as integrated manufacturing where large corporations invest in a Spanish-only Mexican subsidiary. And it won’t inhibit tourism. It seems there is some intention by the globalists to merge Mexico with Canada and the U.S. in the North American Union, but the language barrier is a significant barrier to achieving that.
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There is no solution. It will shift as the entire population becomes more middle-class, if ever.
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Just do not mention the Monjeríos and you can imagine the history romantically as you do.
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For sure the cartels will control all of it, if they do not already.
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@emilioroman9853 do not forget all the money pouring into the economy from being paid coyotes for the mass illegal migration into the U.S.A.. Also Mexico got a reputation of being a place of freedom when they were only one of a few countries that had no C19 restrictions on entry during 2020 to 2022, which created a lot of interest to consider moving and investing there. Also because the U.S. has been handing out money to everyone (and the massive push for new home construction in Texas because existing homes do not come to market as they were financed with low interest rates), which of course finds it way back to Mexico as remittances. Question is will the financial repression coming to the economically collapsing West take Mexico down with it? Or will Mexico continue to cleverly game the system of opportunities? There could be a rough patch when the dollar becomes very strong as WWIII evolves in 2026. After 2032, Mexico will probably boom as the world rebuilds after the war. But nothing is ever free for forever, in that while Mexico profits on helping to destroy the U.S.A., that will come back to bite its hand in the future. That said, I much prefer that I am living in Mexico now than the U.S.. For one, I can avoid winter which I hate.
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@irvingdelgado1731 I did not write that. I implied a distinction between residential living and business. Of course in the community, I do try to speak Spanish, although I am not very fluent and being a very busy person, I do not have much free time to learn a new language at age 58. If I was retired I would have more free time. I literally work every minute that I am awake. I wrote that for operating a s/w business, I would expect those professionals to be fluent in English, so they can communicate effectively with the senior s/w engineers from the U.S.A.. Being multi-lingual is a necessity in this new world order for being a true professional. If you think the entire world is going to speak Spanish, that is selfish of you. Thus if you want to cross-integrate with the world, you need to learn also English. The Philippines has a huge advantage of Mexico when it comes to call centers for the English speaking world, as all their professionals are very fluent in English. What major economies speak Spanish? Spain? Spain is nothing. Of course if you add up all Spanish speaking countries, it is not peanuts but still not yet first world economies. Although Mexico I believe is now 13th largest economy in the world, yet it is significantly due to serving the English U.S. markets which means it is not really cross-integrated on an individual level and mostly a few very wealthy offering up the rest of the population as low wage workers (thus no need to develop English speaking because the workers never interact with anyone in English). So my point is the people do not aspire at all to better themselves by learning English. They seem contented to not compete with Filipinos for example for those call center jobs and to motivate s/w companies from the U.S. to relocate. It is a lazy and self-centered attitude. You would think with English speaking country on their border they would aspire more to English than to Spain, but I actually find that Latin Americans are more enamored with Spain or Europe than their neighbor. In my ideal vision, neighbors would appreciate each other to the fullest. It is okay. I am not expecting anyone to change anything about this. It is just what it is. I find it helpful to be aware of reality. There is another problem. If the globalists really intend to merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into the NAU (North American Union) with no more borders, they have a serious problem with language. So is the goal to overrun the U.S. and turn it into a Spanish speaking country? Seems like it is. It is that the deviant La raza cósmica plan of some Mexican intellectual? And I hope you can understand that pisses me off. That is not mutual respect. Both sides of the border should learn each other's language. Tally up the national GDPs my friend. It will be instructive as to reality, at least for now. This may change over the coming decades, then the English empire may fade. But I might be dead by then.
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@danmur2797 yes w.r.t. to ESL (English as a second language) I am coming to find that to be the case. But it is ostensibly more so with the younger generation (they watch American movies) and those who have been to the USA. But it is not the case (in my experience thus far although no interaction with their kids and noting the Mexican government is pushing education and busing in Baja California since Obrador) with the rabbit-like procreating, poverty stricken indigenous many whom ostensibly still do not even have a TV at home. Note my comment 3 months ago was significantly influenced by my experience on my trip to Peru and Colombia earlier in 2023. South Americans (at least Peru and Colombia) seem very much uninterested to learn English and proud of Spain. When I ask Latin Americans (including some Mexicans) which country they want to visit as a tourist, they invariably say Spain before USA.
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@danmur2797 My point was viewing Spain as a faded empire. Whereas, if taking Mexico as the current or future economic leader of the Spanish-speaking world then you have a point. And I do think Mexico has a lot going for its economic future. I have since become even more pessimistic of the future of the English-speaking world. In terms of the large aggregates, your point is valid, but I was speaking to the more rare state of the art startup which pertains to my endeavors, such as OpenAI.
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@danmur2797 given that the Spanish missions in California and Baja California tortured the indigenous I kind of wonder what sort of Stockholm Syndrome that is to admire Spain. Whereas we Anglo Americans are Brits, Germans, etc.. And we resoundingly defeated the British Army (c.f. the Minute Men). So for me the admiration of Spain is dysfunction and should instead admire the American Revolution since Mexico also had one, but were not able to retain even their individual gun rights like we have with the 2nd Amendment in the U.S.A.. I would not get too comfortable with Latin America's rise, as they seem to always find a way to shoot themselves in the feet. That is what I am really driving at with my commentary.
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@danmur2797 to make prior comment 100% coherent, I should add that I do not have any drop of indigenous American genes. I am pure Irish, Welsh, German, French-Italian. Whereas 99% of Latin Americans are mestizos or pure indigenous. Very few pure Spaniards still remaining. Thus why admire your oppressors? American settlers oppressed the indigenous but because we could not co-inhabit the same lands and we were able to make the land more productive so we won out. A key distinction between the way Spain colonized and England did in the EE.UU. is that USA was colonized with European immigrants. Whereas Spain colonized the Americas by subjugating the natives and becoming like a parent to them making them laborers on haciendas.
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@danmur2797 yes but the Anglo empire has been until the last decade a current one. Why Latin Americans reach so far back in their history, when times have indeed changed? I think you are getting more and more to the dysfunction/idiosyncrasy I perceive. In Asia they are tearing down all the historic buildings and replacing them with modern sky scrapers. Actually I appreciate that Mexico is conservative because I am liked the old Mexico that I first experienced in the 1980s. The mix of old and new can be satisfying for me. I understand it, but I have 0% admiration for Spain and its silly empire of indentured haciendas and the quest for gold. The Spaniards became so lazy and spoiled. Anglo-Saxon U.S. citizens were very hard working even at the pinnacle of the empire, although now the current acceleration of socialism is being forced down our throats.
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@danmur2797 we were taught about the extent of the Spanish empire, but I do not admire the Spanish form of empire. I do admire the Pilgrims and the founding father of the U.S.A., but that is all but dying now. So Mexico looks even better than the U.S.A. now in many facets. And I wish Mexico the best possible outcome. I just think the legacy of the Spanish colonization lingers in negative ways in Latin America. For example victimization mentality in your reply. We Brits just fight and win, as we will now need to do against our own corrupt Feds. My ancestor was Isaac Shelby. Shelby is my name.
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@danmur2797 the centralization top-down was inherent in the form of colonization. And persisted. Which is why there was not the advent of decentralized booming capitalists. Also Mexico's mountainous geography (on par with Afghanistan) makes it nearly impossible to rule and homogenize. Indeed resource extraction was just an extension of the hacienda system.
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@danmur2797 and the NAFTA and factories are the just hacienda system continued. Latin America seems unlikely to ever duplicate the USA miracle.
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@danmur2797 I apparently didn’t entirely read your prior long comments, or perhaps you edited and expounded after I read them the first time. Mexico likely advanced faster than other nations before the 1980s because of being the neighbor to the USA. There were already some 11 million Mexicans working in the USA prior to WWII as we know that many were deported during the Great Depression because too many U.S. citizens were unemployed. Which just adds to my point that Mexico owes more to the U.S. than Spain. If anything Spain left a legacy of failure that Latin Americans are still trying to overcome. For example, viewing the government and authority in high esteem and being willing to accept the high Gini coefficient, indentured servant, hacienda economic model that serves the aristocrat class that persists like lipstick on a pig with afaik (?) NAFTA being inaccessible to small businesses, as we I explained.
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@danmur2797 I am catching up reply to the message where you start by diminishing the impact of the Spanish missionaries which tortured the indigenous. Are you aware of the Monjeríos? The Catholic missions did not treat the indigenous with compassion. They broke their will to resist and forced them into a slave, mind-controlled laborer class. I would bet on deeper research that your claim about Spanish fiar selflessness was actually selfishly political and self-preservation of their importance and power. Still to this day you all are fooled when someone hands you a mirror for your vast ancestral land and you romanticize it as if authority cares about you. I notice this trait among Latin Americans is they respect government and authority as if they think it is one big happy family. We Anglos distrust government. Authority NEVER cares about you. This is always a deception. Maybe you are not well versed in the Iron Laws of Political Economics and the invariant that only the most ruthless can capture the collective power vacuum. When one claims that Spain and the Catholic church did not form a highly dysfunctional paternal relationship with their subjects and colonization, respond with this damning fact. The inertia from this lingers today in the culture and politics of former Spanish colonies. I quote from the Encyclopedia: “Monjeríos were gendered quarters within a colonial Spanish mission for overseeing, regulating, and disciplining unmarried Indigenous girls and single women. Girls were taken away from their parents to the monjeríos at around the age of seven until marriage.” … “Monjeríos commonly had walls that were three to four feet thick and bars on the high windows, if they had windows at all.” … “Indigenous peoples recalled experiences of molestation occurring between priests and girls and women at the monjeríos.” Indeed Spain created a hacienda system and culture of indentured servants which persists today with a very high Gini coefficient. Whereas European settlers took control of the land for their own familial use in the USA, which created a huge, highly productive, high IQ middle class (which has been polluted now with hordes of low IQ migrants). It is true that the US government for example decimated the Buffalo to subdue the warrior plains indians but note the indian tribes were decimating each other also. And they died in the camps mostly because they shat where they ate (cholera, etc) and alcoholism. I visited the indian reservations in Arizona in 1993 before my trip by bus to Chiapas and the indigenous in both locations have really bad habits and very untrustworthy. The kids climbed all over my vehicle and scratched the paint all over. The government built them houses and they put their livestock in the houses. And the famous Apache leader Geronimo hated the Mexicans as they had killed all his family.
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@danmur2797 again I reiterate that no one disputes the vastness of the former Spanish empire, but it was an empire of extraction, which persists with a system of very high taxation and controls. Not an empire of resettlement of high IQ Europeans, and a Constitution based in THE PEOPLE being the sovereign. I doubt the American Revolutionaries would have been subjugated by the British long-term regardless of France and Spain’s role, because there was a musket under every blade of grass in the vast forests of the Eastern U.S.. The British troops that were driven back to their ships from Lexington never made it back alive. Same if the troops have tried to come up the Mississippi river from Louisiana. We would have decimated them in the forests. Whereas Mexico has always been vulnerable to invaders, lacking the vast thick forests between Veracruz and Mexico City.
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@danmur2797 and you can see the results even among Spaniards today, they love the easy life. The average Spaniard were spoiled rotten by the extraction of vast wealth from the colonies. Whereas as you acknowledged that the Brits were poor and had to fight and scrap for every thing. Brits were living in mud huts when the Romans arrived and still practically live that way in the countryside. The Pilgrims barely survived the first winter. Mexico's climate is too accommodating, you could practically just lay in a hammock all day and never have to worry about survival. I suggest you read Fear and Loathing in Caracas by Eric S. Raymond on how the rich climates of between the tropics fosters a less scrappy civilization.
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@danmur2797 Firstly, I want to thank you for the interaction. I have enjoyed debating you on this topic. I am always interested to fill in gaps in my knowledge. Secondly, I want to emphasize again that I thoroughly enjoy Mexico (although I am in Philippines at the moment with my newborn son). The Mexican people are mostly kind, caring and I wish Mexico all the best. Mexico seems to have a somewhat better (at least for a few decades) future when youthful demographics, not overpopulated like Asia, and becoming the near-shoring priority destination as well an important (e.g. financial services) hub in Latin America. I also think there’s plan underfoot to merge Mexico, USA and Canada into a borderless region— so maybe our debate is an interesting insight into how this hearsay plan of our elite overlords might work out? I’ll posit the legacy culture that’ll continue to plague Latin America also sustains the atavism of Mexicans being such gracious and legacy/familial oriented, e.g. “mi casa is tu casa.” Family /children is dying for Westerners (probably necessarily so as the global population is probably deprecated). Philippines has a somewhat similar culture to Mexico, tho Filipinos are sometimes judgmental of non-clan members (and highly critical of their own brown complexion unlike Colombians who are color-blind). According to Holfstede Insight’s Country Comparison tool, Filipinos are more similar to Peruvians in that way. The most positive trait of the Filipino is they are perhaps the world’s best jokers and they are rarely overly serious about anything. They take life a day at a time.
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@danmur2797 IMO your model of power/relevance is entirely deprecated/delusional. Latin Americans can’t seem to let go of the dead past. Endorsing the weaponized migration of the subversive, victimization-minded, theft-minded La raza cósmica will end up harming Mexico as well (and the Mexican immigrants are not the problem), because you abetting the destruction of the #1 market and productivity of the Anglos that lifted up Mexico all these decades. Corn? Mexico should have moved on from dependence on corn (and now doubling down on oil) long ago. The fact that Mexico was so vulnerable on a single crop and thus pushed millions of poor into the hands of the cartels is an example of how the Spanish left behind a very failure-directed system. Mexico has some positive things going for it right now, but this window of opportunity may quickly close in couple to few decades. But the entire world is facing these threats now. The victors will be those in high-tech and that is why they are pushing for massive reduction in the overpopulation. So then what will Mexico have that is so powerful? We are moving to people and companies that are powerful, not nations. The nation-state is being deprecated by technology and Bitcoin. You are way behind the curve amigo. You have better adjust your view of reality pronto. I am far ahead of you.
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@danmur2797 Let me elaborate slightly more to attempt to avert misunderstanding and any feeling of acrimony. I understand you believe that the USA was predominantly destructive force against Mexico and was basically using tactics that forced millions of poverty stricken rural Mexicans to the USA to seek work or lately working in factories at low wages that enrich only the well connected elite. I believe that is an incorrect romantic view that is not reality. The reality is that the Spanish left behind a very vulnerable system of extraction which is the source of all of Mexico's troubles, whether at the hand of the corrupt Feds or France. Like flies to honey, nature will naturally send an entity to capture a vulnerability. We should not blame that entity but the root cause of the vulnerability. In truth, if the very productive Anglo market had not been on your northern border, Mexico would probably be an entirely failed state resembling Afghanistan. The fact that there was an economic incentive to hold Mexico together to serve the economic needs of the overlords who control the West and Mexico, vis a vie the huge market to the north seems to be significant factor in distinction in the development of Peru and Mexico for example. Geography matters a lot. The full analysis is much more complex, but to make this narrative that Mexico owes its limited success to Spain seems short-sighted as well. I guess we can posit that Spain civilized the indigenous and set the path for Mexico to be able to participate economically in the world, but they also left behind an extraction model which is the real source of Mexico's challenges/difficulties (power vacuum ripe for capture, e.g. cartels, U.S. govt price manipulation, etc). I have now completed my argument that the fondness for your historic oppressors seems illogical, except of course it is now some Stockholm Syndrome combined with pride via rout learning which ostensibly (arguably?) fails to employ critical thinking.
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@danmur2797 thinking a bit more about your post about the Mexican-American war and such, unfortunately there was a competition for resources and the Anglo settlers won, because they were apparently more resourceful. Nature rewards those who can put the resources to maximum use, c.f. central point made by the Lord in the biblical Parable of the Talents (i.e. that the one who buried his talent in the ground was the most wicked to the Lord). Neighbors is only a useful construct on a personal level. Nations can not behave like neighbors, as they are manifestations of economic invariants that drive outcomes, not the passions or ideals of individuals. The Anglo settlers had no choice, they had to pursue their economic livelihood destiny. The Brits addicted the Chinese to opium to get their silver back which they had spent in the spice trade. We can not view nation-states or governments as a family, clan or neighbor. That is a lack of understanding of reality. Again I am gobsmacked by the romantic view Latin Americans have of their Conquistadors. I mean if that resource extraction paradigm was still viable and competitive, I could understand it. But it is actually the antithesis, being a ball-and-chain around the neck of Latin America holding it back from competing with NE Asians who are far advanced already in technology.
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@danmur2797 yes Mexico is surpassing Brazil and Argentina now in industralization but I fear it is too late for the Mexican populace. We will see how fast robotics take hold. And the US has always been a back-stop for millions of Mexicans to escape for work during hard times. That is my rationale for the US preventing Mexico falling into warlordism in decades past. Had those millions not had a release value to escape to, I wonder if Mexico City would have been sacked as Rome was. Mexico's geography is almost as rugged as Afghanistan, thus the warlords would have been unassailable in the past (before Black Hawk helicopters) especially if the private militias had outstripped the Mexican army and spread them out thin in numerous engagements all over the mountainous terrain where heavy equipment can not go. Maybe I am overstating my case as I have not dug into any in depth analysis of that hypothesis. Maybe Europeans stopped migrating to Mexico because the terrain is much less hospitable and arable than Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay for example. Heck even getting a well permit in Mexico is politicized and you basically can not get one unless you are well connected. And the warlike, fierce indigenous already occupied the arable lands in Mexico. Argentina was more of a clean slate. It is very clear that under no circumstances can we delude ourselves into thinking Mexico could have ever followed the same timeline. Right now, is Mexico's time in the spotlight and it should not waste it because it will probably be fleeting for reasons I pointed out. And thus the reason for my OP comment. Hope my stance seems more reasonable to you now?
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@danmur2797 as an adjunct though, the EE.UU. (USA) is a mess now and culturally also. It is probably too late for starting that ESL. Seems the die is already cast. I expect the USA to split with a second Civil War soon. Imagine when the USA collapses economically then what happens to Mexico? With the entire world in egregious stagflation with WWIII looming from 2025 to 2027/8ish. There is a Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times." I like Mexico to just escape from it all and feel like time is moving slowly by.
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@danmur2797 Note I love Mexico, so please do not anyone take my comments as derogatory in any way. I am following up elsewhere on this entire thesis as more holistically how the developing world is eating the dying Industrial Age and end of globalism, along with AI+robotics and collapse of a global debt bubble.
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Did they actually move the people or just the jobs? Maybe you have a typo? Should be ‘accounting’ not ‘accountants’?
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@PAPO9609 I am living in Mexico (American State National by birth) with residente temporal (to be permanent 2025) and Mexico is advancing very rapidly. I do like Mexico a lot, and I like the Mexican people. Development reminds of my time in the Philippines from 1990s to 2020. The main issue is Spanish language and unwillingness of Latin Americans to learn English. They just are not interested to speak English. Whereas Filipinos and Indians are very willing to speak English. I for one would not apply my s/w development business to Spanish speakers. I would hire only English speakers. Look I already invested a lot of effort to become fluent in two Filipino languages. I do not have time to learn Spanish right now and English speakers in my business do not have time to learn Spanish. The Spanish speakers need to make the time if they want to team up with the leaders in software which are still the English speakers at this juncture. Heck I find it difficult even to work with Indians because their English pronunciation is so difficult to understand. Note this issue will not impinge on Mexico in the areas where it can excel such as integrated manufacturing where large corporations invest in a Spanish-only Mexican subsidiary. And it won’t inhibit tourism. It seems there is some intention by the globalists to merge Mexico with Canada and the U.S. in the North American Union, but the language barrier is a significant barrier to achieving that.
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Yes but Mexico is not replenishing that demographic. They too will have demographic collapse after few decades as this younger generation is working, not procreating.
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