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I am married to a Filipina and live in the Philippines. You do "marry" the family, in a sense. So ... make sure it is a good family. The family I married into is ten times better than my biological family. They have helped me out in more ways than I can count. Most men come here looking for a traditional woman, then want her to cut ties with the family that made and keep her traditional. Make that make sense.
I went into the relationship knowing this dynamic. I keep a close watch on my finances and have a set amount that I give every month. I don't go over that no matter how sad the story is. Her family knows it and doesn't ask for more. I understand that its a Western dynamic not to share what you have. If that's you, this may not be the place for you. If you want a non-traditional woman who doesn't care for her family, then you will get a woman who is more like a Western woman. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. As a aside, taking care of her whole family is much, much, much less than the average demands of one Western woman. However, to each their own.
DON'T LEAD WITH YOUR WALLET! There are no misandrist laws here in the Philippines that force men to give money to women. If a man does that, it's all on him. If he loses it all to a girl, that's all on him. There's no government forcing you to do that. Local men here bail on women all the time and don't pay a dime. If you lead with money, you will attract women who only want your money. Learn discipline and learn it fast.
Also, stay away from bar girls and bar flies. Don't look for a girlfriend (or wife) in a bar. They are all cuter and younger than what you can get in the West, but it comes with a lot of strings attached. Stay away from dating sites unless you just want to date casually and have a VERY STRONG hold on your wallet.
Take your time. Vet the woman carefully. Don't jump in without knowing her and her family. Educate yourself on how the women here scam you. Learn the signs and run. You can defend much better here because the government doesn't enable their scams like in the West.
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I've been in three separate relationships with single mothers. Yeah, I know, repeated mistakes ... but learn from mine so you don't make the same ones. In all three cases, the mothers enabled the children's disrespect and destructive tendencies by refusing to discipline them and also refusing to let me do so. The kids quickly figured this out and gamed it to the hilt. We're talking habitual arrests and jail time for one kid. That is how far it can go. That is the common dynamic. No biological father present, so the kids go off the skids. Incarceration statistics bear this out. Some mothers do better at it than others, but it is present in almost every single-mother family ... just like a lack of nurturing in the rare single-father families. From my personal experiences, it was a disaster each time. Instead of shaming men, single mothers should consider:
1) You have a child from a man, so at some point you were in a relationship with a man who is the biological father. You either chose poorly or left that man, unless you fall into the rare situation of being widowed. That's on you. It's like quitting your job and then complaining about being unemployed.
2) Men won't step in and be with you because you won't let them do what a father is supposed to do. Almost no man will sign up for a situation where he provides the support, but has none of the authority. The rare ones who do, usually leave when they've had enough. That dynamic is completely within your power as the the mother to change. Once again, it is on you.
Ranting about this and shaming men will do no good. It is already an American cultural dynamic that many men no longer even want to date or marry any woman, much less a single mother. Those are the facts, fair or not. Emotional rants about them won't change a thing. How about taking a look at how you can realistically impact the situation. Perhaps letting a man actually parent your children the way the biological father should? Perhaps understanding that a man brings different things to parenting and letting him do those things? Perhaps understanding that you have blind spots as a parent and work with them rather than giving your kids carte blanche to do as they please? Even if you do all this however, I think the dynamic will be stuck for the next few decades. American cultural dynamics made this mess. Now women and men have to live with it. It is what it is.
Not all women are like this? Agreed, perhaps not even most. However, enough are like this that it is firmly rooted in our culture now and men have checked out. Want to change it? You cannot change the men, so perhaps look at how you can change yourselves, both to be happier and a better partner. Even so, you won't be able to change the current culture over night. You are stuck with the current dynamic, as are the men.
NOTE: I am a single father caring 24/7 for a young child. The biological mother ran off with another woman and is deadbeat mom, paying no court-ordered child support either to me or her previous husband with whom she had kids. She is not in the kid's lives. Authorities do nothing to hold her accountable, just laugh. I chose poorly, so that's on me. So yeah, I get how hard it is to be a single parent and that I cannot possibly cover all the bases. I understand that a lot of women don't want to be with a man who has kids at home. I respect that. These are the cards I was dealt due to my choices and I play them as best I can, rather than try to shame women into taking on a burden that is not theirs to bear.
PS: Just stay away from Western women. All of them. Lost cause. Both f'nism and divorce are ingrained into their psyche from childhood.
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Upper level management is filled with people who have aggressive personality disorders, even outright narcissism or psychopathy. While we, as lay persons, are not qualified to diagnose ... we can learn the tactics, signs and character traits, so as to avoid them. I don't lead projects anymore due to the prevalence of these kinds of people. The overhead in people issues always overshadows any creative satisfaction. From my experience, jousting with these people never ends well. They love drama and deceit. They have practiced it for years so they are better at it than you. People like this are the main reason I consider my job a paycheck rather than a career or profession. Trying to take on these people just results in a lot of time away from other things you love, like family, and can even impact your health. Just fold your tent and leave. A lower paying, less creative, job is worth it if you don't have to deal with these bad actors.
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In order to be a Passport Bro, you have to be able to be an expatriate. Let me list some traits that are "entry level" essential for an expat. Many surpass these.
- Good, stable income or accumulated wealth
- No criminal record
- Ability to plan ahead and execute those plans for housing, transportation, navigating visa requirements for different nations, international banking, and more
- Flexibility to quickly adapt to different cultures
- Level headed and composed so as not to get into trouble in foreign nations ... foreigners have far less slack than the locals
- Ability to quickly acquire new languages
- Self-sufficiency ... no safety net over there
- Self-starters who research the optimal places and all the laws, economics and cultures there
- Keeping current with all your credentials, documentations and international tax laws
- Ability to manage your finances and job from any place in the world
- Men who are confident taking calculated risks
So ... "ladies" ... you are actually losing some of the higher quality men from the West, rather than the "dusties" and "losers" you claim are leaving. But hey, whatever helps you cope and avoid your own shortcomings.
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Every time in the past where I thought I would die without her, I found that I didn't really start living until after she was gone. Today, I do my living up front and don't worry about her.
Most men leave exactly because of all this freaking drama women inject into their otherwise calm lives for little or no reason. She's like, "sob, sob, sob ... cry, cry, cry ... whine, whine, whine ... problems, problems, problems ... feelings, feelings, feelings" While the guy looks up from his X-Box controller after a 12 hour day and thinks, "WTF? The cooch ain't worth this."
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Once again, an American woman who weighs significantly more than me ... or a short-hair, shrill, tatted freak ... or both ... lecturing me on who I should date. <eye roll> "Humpty Dumpty huffin' and puffin' just to get the mail" ... damn Bo, you crack me up. My foreign girlfriend has a computer science degree, speaks three languages, has long hair, no tats, no face piercings, and weighs 112 lbs.
You're right, Bo. An American woman cannot stand to see an American man happy. He is supposed to know his place and stay there, alone and miserable ... like them. Guilting and shaming is the ONLY tool used by American women. Enough.
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When I decided to expatriate, Thailand was on my short list. However, I decided on the Philippines because the the visas were much easier to get and most people here speak English. Thailand is a bit cheaper, from what I have researched. The guy in the video stated that he feels content in his new place. That is exactly how I feel in the Philippines. It really is a fresh, new start ... even though I am twice this guy's age. I went for a rural location on one of the smaller islands, rather than the city. That is just personal choice, but it comes with less luxury. Honestly though, I have all that I need.
I can relate to his comments about the US being a hyper-aggressive, consumerist environment. I tried moving rural in the US, but all that quickly followed me. Another thing that followed me was the man-hating ideology. Within only a few years, the small rural town to which I moved had more and more overweight, tatted, pierced, short blue-haired, shrill women (and their equally overweight, tatted, pieced, but also neck-bearded male allies) aggressively pushing "The Message" in my face. That was the tipping point that made me decide to leave. I very much enjoy being someplace where I am not vilified and condemned just for being white and having a Y-chromosome. Imagine that. People of a different race treat me far better than my own. I love it here.
Dining out here is easily $25 for three people in the resort areas and down to $10 for three in the province rural areas. Beef is also not cheap here, but there is amazing chicken, seafood and pork, if you eat it. Yeah, I love a good steak, but it's not a deal breaker. The steaks here are different from the US Southwest, so you end up paying a lot for disappointment. I just don't eat it anymore. For that I get fresh seafood of all different varieties. Fresh ... not half rotten like in the mainland US. Another unexpected benefit here is the lack of chemicals and preservatives in food. Almost everything is sourced local from small farms and fishermen. Organic without the expensive label. I eat more carbs here than I did in the US, but have not gained any weight. It was an eye-opening revelation how poisoned the food is in the US.
Rent/housing is a bit more expensive here, but you can get a very nice 2-BR condo in a resort area, with a pool and security guard, for 1K a month. In the rural areas, a renting a house can cost as little as $100-$200 a month. Less amenities though. Transportation is also cheap here. $1 for a short ride and no more than $5 for a long ride. A 2-hour bus ride to the other end of the island is $7. However, I rent a car and am buying one here. Personal preference. Many expats don't own a car, or just have a motorcycle. I have a family too, so owning a bigger vehicle makes more sense.
It is always summer here, so you have to get used to the heat. If you cannot stand heat/humidity, you might want to reconsider. It's not as bad as Dallas, Houston or Phoenix in the summer, through.
You're right that more money doesn't equal more happiness. In fact, more stuff = more overhead keeping it all organized and running. Far less is available here, so you buy far less. Only what you really need. Amazon doesn't deliver where I am, so that massively cut my spending :D
Overall a great move. I don't regret it. Western men, you are being lied to about the world outside the West. I catch the same negative comments from a lot of my Western friends, who have never been here or even researched it.
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I was there 6 weeks ago. Cebu and Bohol. Everything was great. I got the giggling and head turning in the Cebu City malls, and I'm north of 60. Meeting women was no problem at all. I cannot compare to past years, but still paradise compared to the USA. I agree with Bo and the others that the primary reason to expatriate should be economic. That is one of my big reasons ... the other being the traditional culture and the nice weather.
... and yeah, you still need to put in the work. I'm still at the same weight I was in my 20s as an Army captain. I work out, eat well, and don't over indulge. Something I've heard from a lot of Filipinas is that they want a Western man's genes for their children. Physical appearance does play into that. You have to have more than your Western wallet ... and isn't that what men want anyway? To be appreciated for something beyond money?
There is a BIG difference between the cities and the provinces. If you want a true, traditional woman ... go to the provinces. Also, don't bring her back to the West. Why uproot a beautiful flower and replant it in toxic soil.
I did love not hearing anything about Western politics while living over there. Nobody knows or cares about Trump/Biden, Republicans/Democrats, border crisis, "rights" of protected groups, gun control, woke Disney films, oil drilling, blah, blah, blah. Cannot wait to be back there.
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In order to be a Passport Bro, you have to be able to be an expatriate. Let me list some traits that are "entry level" essential for an expat. Many surpass these.
- Good, stable income or accumulated wealth
- No criminal record
- Ability to plan ahead and execute those plans for housing, transportation, navigating visa requirements for different nations, international banking, and more
- Flexibility to quickly adapt to different cultures
- Level headed and composed so as not to get into trouble in foreign nations ... foreigners have far less slack than the locals
- Ability to quickly acquire new languages
- Self-sufficiency ... no safety net over there
- Self-starters who research the optimal places and all the laws, economics and cultures there
- Keeping current with all your credentials, documentations and tax laws
- Ability to manage your finances and job from any place in the world
- Men who are confident taking calculated risks
So ... "ladies" ... you are actually losing some of the higher quality men from the West, rather than the "dusties" and "losers" you claim are leaving. But hey, whatever helps you cope and avoid your own shortcomings.
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What does a good woman bring to the table? Loyalty, faithfulness, companionship, support, intimacy, children ... bringing you peace. Yeah, I don't need someone to cook and clean either. I can do that myself or hire someone. However, those tasks are very strongly integrated into women's psyche over in the Philippines. Just take it as a plus that she is willing to do it. What do you want, a woman who works and brings in an equal income? You can have the here in the West, just stay here and don't marry or co-habitate. Yeah, cooking/cleaning isn't the only thing ... but the mindset of wanting to do it without screaming "patriarchy" is definitely a plus.
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Older men have options. So true. Lots of good options. What's really sad is that many of those good options don't even involve women anymore. Men learned in their teens and 20s, when completely ignored by women, to pursue non-relationship options that are both fun and rewarding. Anything from playing Call of Duty, to a camping trip with friends, to ATV riding, to taking an online gunsmithing class. Women can bash this all they want, call it lame, whatever, but it is the new reality. Face it women, you've effectively trained men to live quite well without you. Today, there is absolutely nothing that an American or Western woman can offer me that is a better option than the dozens of things I already have in my life, that do not involve a woman. In fact, an American woman would only be a liability and detract from the joy I currently have. They are almost all culturally disposed to some extent to arrogant entitlement and man-hating. Those women who are not like this married long ago, instead of gaming men, and are still happily married. That's the reality and I don't want any part of today's single American women.
In a nutshell, for an American man, being alone is a better option than anything an American woman has to offer. Millions of men are bearing out this new truth. This isn't going to change in my generation, nor in the one after that. Maybe my grandchildren will have something different, but I'm done with relationships in America.
Women can continue to complain, blame, and shame ... but the reality is that men are done and the only thing that will bring them back is if women do a 180 and change the way they are. At this late stage in the game however, it is extremely unlikely women would ever do that and doubtful it would even change how men feel. Even the beta soy-boys are starting to get sick of it, and women don't want to settle down with them anyway. So, learn to be content alone, or you will just be miserable alone. Sympathy and understanding? Sorry, that's all gone. It was used up when men were being treated as disposable the first 30 years of their lives.
PS: These women hate porn so much because it is an easy and readily available substitute for the one value they controlled that men wanted - sex. They are absolutely livid that it isn't their monopoly and control anymore. It is high irony that it is women themselves who eagerly and copiously provide the vast amounts of porn for which other women vilify men. Once again, always the man's fault.
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Never, NEVER be alone anywhere with a Western woman. Never, NEVER be alone with any woman any time in a Western nation. I was falsely accused by my then wife and arrested. She used the time to clean out all my assets and blow town, never to be seen again. I was held for two years anyway, while the misandrist, all-female DA team kept rescheduling court dates while looking for her. The same DA team worked together with a misandrist, all-female CPS team to threaten my friends and acquaintances into also falsely testifying or be investigated for child abuse. The judge just rubber stamped whatever the DA wanted and quashed all motions my my attorney to uncover the misconduct. The DA and CPS went to far however and several of the people they threatened also threatened to sue and press charges against the DA. My charges were finally dismissed after 2 years. It cost me over $200K in attorney costs, having to sell my home to pay for them, as my ex had cleaned out all the accounts before departing. Of course, no restitution. The police or DA never made any attempt to gather any evidence of any type. My entire extended family turned their backs on me, including my very own son. Very few of them made any effort to make amends after the charges were dismissed. Honestly, I want nothing to do with any of them anymore after they gave up on me so easily. I cut all contact and moved far, far away. To say I mistrust the American legal system is a gross understatement.
My advice? Leave the West entirely.
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I did exactly what you described, Bo, 4 years ago. I do not regret it one bit. I left the 7.5 million population metroplex in which I had lived and worked for 25 years, moving to a low population state in an even lower population area. The nearest small town of 10,000 is 15 miles distant. I drive to town once or twice a week for mail, food and supplies. I'm not quite off grid, but I have my own well, septic tank and solar. My property taxes are less than 15% of what they were in the city. Other expenses are also a fraction of what they were. People here are traditional and don't do the NPC stuff. We never masked up at all for the 'demic and the sheriff refused to enforce it. At least a half-dozen people still tell me "thank you for your service" every time I visit town.
I worked remote for 3 years with a combination of cellular internet and satellite. Starlink made it even cheaper, faster and easier. I was aged out of my job last year and decided to just live off my military pension, which has worked great. I was worried at first, but there have been no financial problems. I have to say that cutting women out of my life before all this is what enabled me to live far more cheaply. I am living well on less than 20% of what I made in the city. I am also a single father with sole custody of my child, but that adds minimal expenses. At first, I was going to freelance, but found I didn't need the extra money. Instead, I work on my homestead. I do one-off projects for optional big expenses, which are not that often. I am starting to grow my own food too, with a larger harvest every year. I have been most amazed at how happy and stress free I am here, even though I work harder physically.
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TONS of bad information on expats all over the internet. Mostly coming from feminists who have no clue what is really going on. Also TONS of bad information about Asia ... like equating return to gender roles with domestic violence against women. The two have nothing to do with each other. Same with lack of education for women. It's all Western feminist misinformation designed to paint the picture as they want it, rather than how it really is. The video Bo reviewed is heavily slanted in favor of feminists by inaccurately portraying what is really going on.
I was doing this long before the term "passport bros" even existed. I call my self an expatriate, expat for short. I live in the Philippines and am married to a Filipina. She is fluent in 3 languages, including English, and has a bachelors degree in teaching. (The woman claiming Filipinas are uneducated only speaks one language.) We have a daughter with hopefully more children on the way.
"Brown people servicing white people" - that the biggest load of horsecrap I've ever heard. Clearly from a coping feminist who has never even been to Asia. White men are a very small minority and have to play by the rules of the country in which they live. Filipinas are not pushovers.
"These men are just looking for quick hookups" - another load of crap from a soyboy simp who has never been to Asia either. The USA is all about quick hookups. Asia is about creating families. Yeah there are some guys here who want that, but most don't. The players don't last long.
Match makers are grifters. Ineffective grifters.
It's not so much traditional gender roles, but rather a nation where the legal system and culture aren't massively biased against men. The "cooking and cleaning" thing gets brought up so much. I couldn't care less about that, nor could most of the men I know. It's just spun that way to make men look "misogynistic" and "toxic."
The group of expats I know here will not associate with men who hump and dump, or use, local women. Those guys are scum. The majority of expats are not like that and won't tolerate men who are.
US Feminists and their soyboy allies just need to STFU and concentrate on their own utopian gynocracy. Stop being a "colonizer" by pushing your views about women and family on other cultures, assuming you know better. The rest of the world sees you as a big joke.
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@PeterNolan-009 I can relate on a smaller scale. I was falsely accused a few years back. No evidence, no witnesses, just her word. She disappeared, refusing to testify, but they held me for 2 years anyway. Burned through about 300K in defense costs, as the DA kept rescheduling the trial dates, and lost my home to pay for it all. Charges were dismissed, but no restitution or attempt to get any accountability from her. Fortunately, I did not lose my job. I received almost no help. Family turned on me too. An unlikely ally, the ex of the woman who accused me, did help out.
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I was in Cebu City and Bohol just two months ago. I had many women staring at me, smiling at me and flirting with me. I did stand out like a sore thumb, even though I saw some other Western men. I'm north of 60, so imagine a younger man. Very target rich environment. I cannot speak to how it was there years ago, it is still way, way, way, way better than the West. But yeah, don't be a dork or an idiot. Be respectful, don't act desperate, and look for some interest in the woman before you approach. And yeah, do some work on yourself and keep it up. I'm still the same weight I was as an Army captain 40 years ago. It does matter. Yes, there is a big difference between city and province. Personally, I prefer province ... but city is nice too. But yeah, Bo is spot on ... province girl means serious intentions, not dating around.
Something I really enjoyed about Filipinas and the Philippines in general ... I never heard the words patriarchy, misogyny, toxic masculinity, oppression, gender pay gap, or a host of other woke and f'nist nonsense. People there don't know or care who Trump and Biden are. They don't know or care about the border crisis, gun control, or queer theory in public schools and universities. I was actually looked upon positively as a white man, rather than the evil source of all the world's problems. It was very, very peaceful. That, above all, is why I am moving there long term.
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I'm married to a Filipina and live in the Philippines. I don't experience this sort of exploitation. Her family treats me with respect an they are a great help to me in local matters. Most of the people in her community also respect me and treat me kindly, including the mayor and barangay captain. Yes, the Philippines is very, very family oriented. If you want a traditional woman, she will be close to her family. If you want an independent woman, most of them come with a more liberal mindset. I went in knowing this and planned accordingly. Whatever I used to give to the church (who mostly spent it corruptly), I give to her family. It's money I would give anyway ... except now I know it goes to people who can really use it. It is a fixed amount, no more. Yes, the are very poor, but they don't ask for more or pressure me. They didn't get angry the few times I told them no, when we were first setting boundaries. Anything more, I just say that it's not in my budget for the month and I don't have the money.
I experienced more gouging and freeloading attempts from my Latina girlfriend in El Paso decades ago than I do here. It is a people issue, more than a culture issue. The culture here does enable it, but it is a certain type of people who take advantage of it. Character, not culture.
One very important thing is that I do NOT do is pay anything for the extended family. It is my wife's parents and their siblings only. I drew the line there. If the rest want money, it comes out of what I give to the immediate family. That stopped things very fast. My wife supports me and has my back 100%. She's also a thrifty woman. No name brand stuff and she calls out purchases that are too expensive, even by Philippines standards. I will say again, her family is of huge help to me ... preventing people from trying to gouge me, expediting administrative stuff through who they know, repairs, help at home, all kinds of stuff. They threw a huge birthday party for my daughter (who I brought with me from the US).
If you live in a barangay where all the extended family lives, you can expect problems and drama, unless your wife is very, very strong in blocking it. My wife's father even told me, "If you have problems with extended family, move to another island. Your marriage is the most important thing." My wife's extended family lives on other islands, which is intentional on her parent's part to avoid problems.
A LOT of expats here lead with their wallets and get used. Especially if they hook up with a mercenary woman or family. Not all families are like the one I married into. Locals will try to gouge you with a "long nose tax" because they feel you can pay it. Many do feel you have unlimited finances. It's a poor country and some people are desperate. My wife's family has protected me from that more times than I can count. Her parents have helped us with major purchases, spotting the gouging and even calling out the seller to lower it to a fair price. They don't have the jealousy issues of which this guy speaks. They are kind, appreciative and helpful people. They thank me so many times that I feel embarrassed about it. Your mileage will vary based on the character of your wife and her family. A few important things:
- Don't lead with your wallet
- If you want to help them, set a fixed amount and give no more
- Stick to immediate family only and don't bend on that rule
- Learn to say no. You can do it nicely. "I don't have the money right now" works very well for me.
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It is interesting how many people have issues with a Filipina being close to her family on the one hand, but then want a traditional family-oriented woman on the other. Where do you think the traditional, family-oriented woman learned it? It's like saying, "Wow, I want this beautiful flower, but I want to pull it out of the soil and expect it to thrive on it's own." Wanting to cut her from her family is a Western mindset, just like "don't marry the oldest" is a Western mindset, and" don't give anything to her family" is a Western mindset. An independent woman who doesn't need her family is often an independent woman who doesn't need no man. How has the Western mindset worked for you over in the US so far? Your ability to provide is one of the most attractive factors about you. Wanting to cut that off after you get her is like her suddenly getting fat and ugly. I'm not saying be an ATM, but you can set boundaries and still work within the culture. Also, very few Filipinas choose their family over you, they just want to keep their family in their life as a key relationship. Nothing wrong with that, if it's a good family.
Yeah, as a man you can easily live alone. I did it for years and didn't pick a wife until the right woman for me came along. It's all personal choice and what you're willing to give + want in return. To me, the biggest danger is getting married anywhere in the West. You lose all your options the moment you do that.
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I live in the Philippines. It's true, you won't get a clone of the West here. If you want everything exactly like the West, you won't get it in most places. Stay in the West. I just returned from Manila and there are some really, really nice places there for less than in the US. Bonifacio Global City is like any big Western city, but cleaner and better organized. More expensive too, but not as much as the US.
If you do your due diligence, you can get a good deal. Don't expect US homes on the other side of the planet. The construction here can work well if you are careful, hire good people, and stay on top of them. Yeah, many people will try to overcharge you if you are a Westerner. They figure you have deep pockets and can afford it. It is a fact of life here and most places where expats live. Don't like it, then don't expatriate. On the flip side, you can do whatever the hell you want on your property without some zoning commission or HOA being up your butt.
Consumer protection is nowhere near as strong here. You MUST do your own diligence. Also, the artist conception here is not required to look anything like the finished product. Do NOT pay for someplace that hasn't been built yet, unless you are personally hiring and supervising the construction crew.
American infrastructure is far better. No argument. If you cannot do without it, don't come here. There are regular electrical brownouts here and water outages. So we get a generator and solar + have a well dug ... all of which are far cheaper than than in the US. Hot water is not a given here. Most of the locals don't need or want it. It's only for us spoiled Westerners. Tankless water heaters for the shower here are cheap and easy to install. You don't need house heating here at all. And who needs a washing machine where you can pay someone to do all your laundry for the month for $10?
I'm on my 3rd rental here and finally have something close to what I had in the US. I am in a very nice 3BR, 2 Bath with AC, gated community with pool, hot water and internet for $725/mo. Five minutes from the beach. $650/mo in America for a nice place? Not since 1990. The going rate for 2 BR place where I lived in podunk AZ was almost $2000/mo.
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I served 27 years in the Army, including leading men in combat. In response to this, I can only say to the current administration and leadership ... Go f*** yourselves. You crapped all over us when we were soldiers, and kicked us to the curb as veterans. Maybe Wagner group will do your fighting for you. I hear then need a new employer. All you young men out there. Don't sign up. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... I can hear you saying, "But if you don't fight it's just gonna get worse." It's going to get worse anyway, due to the continual stupid decisions by our leaders. The only question is, will you sacrifice your life in the process for a bunch of corrupt suits at the top and a country that hates you? This nation will have to hit rock bottom before any effective changes are made.
Also, whenever they portray "two moms" ... why does one of them always look like a man? Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
How will they force you to fight? By pointing a gun at you and making you go, that's how.
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@markminister2599 It's mass cultural narcissism, I tell ya. All the characteristics are there: deflection, projection, gaslighting, no accountability, denial, reversing victim/offender role, guilting, triangulation, pity play, imperative thinking, threats ... and more.
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Women initiate 75% of divorces, but it's men's fault. Women initiate 100% of terminations of the unborn, but it's men's fault. Women file scores of false accusations, but it's the men's fault. Women out earn men, but it's the men's fault. Women graduate college more than men, but it's the men's fault. Women have preferential hiring, but it's the men's fault. Women have government support programs not available to men, but it's the men's fault. Can't have kids after age 35? It's the men's fault! The f'nist dream didn't work? It's the men's fault!
Also, what kind of stupid metric is it to measure how many men won't get involved in government "parenting" programs that condemn the man while elevating the woman? What man wants to sign up for that?
I'm a single father raising my child alone 24/7. The mother was a deadbeat who abandoned us. No child support. That's on me for choosing poorly. I arranged remote work to so I can be with my child 24/7. I homeschool. I cook, clean, manage the home, plus do all the "man stuff" ... vehicle maintenance, carpentry, repairs, etc and run a multi-acre homestead. I do it all alone without family or government support, because that's what a man does. That's what a father does. That's what the majority of men in my generation do, but are vilified nonetheless. There are no programs for helping single fathers get by, and letting a woman into my life would only be further financial drain.
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Tradcons claim that red pill men provide no solution. Well, neither do they. Marriage in the West is a burning building, and their best advice to men is to just run into it and "work really hard" at it? To "improve themselves" and maybe they won't burn? Really? Here, I have a solution. Seek wives outside the English-speaking West, where real marriage still exists. I'm sure they will find fault with that too, as they do with everything that doesn't fit their narrow, pseudo-Christian world view. Ironically the tradcons are on the same page with the f'nists on this one, vilifying men for leaving the West. Read the Bible tradcons. Really read what is says about marriage and you will see that what is called marriage in the West is something totally different from what God created. Men have no biblical, social or moral obligation to partake in it.
Marriage in the West is nothing more than an irrevocable trust, with the man as the grantor of all his assets and children, the woman the beneficiary, and the government the trustee who enforces transfer of assets from the man to the woman when she declares she is no longer "happy."
Knowles is wrong. Red pill guys are not feminists. They have adapted to feminism. 90% of men are not hooking up. He is talking about the top 10% Chads, most who are not red pill, just players. Knowles is doing exactly what most women today are doing. Looking at a small percentage of men and tarring all the rest of them with the same brush. All these tradcon guys on the panel are doing it too. They don't have a clue what is going on in the trenches. Most men do not have sex with lots of random girls ... and the men who do, are not red pill because they don't need to be red pill. Don't confuse giving up on Western women as "despair." Most men are not anti-family, they are anti-marriage/anti-family with Western women. Tradcons spin together a bunch of anecdotal, disparate pieces and present them as a cohesive reality.
I'd like to plant a boot in Matt Walsh's smug, self-righteous pie hole. Matt, it's not your leadership or being the best husband that is keeping your marriage together. You have zero control over that. ZERO! All that needs to happen is for your wife to wake up one morning an decide she is bored or "not happy" anymore ... and you will be in the exact same boat as millions of other schmucks losing 50%+ of your assets and all your children. Think a Christian woman won't do that? Look at the stats. They divorce at the same rate as secular. Cannot happen to you? Think again. Look at Steven Crowder.
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@nicholasdiaz9424 I agree with you 100%. In fact, my belief is that even most women are not like that. But here is the rub. EVERY woman in the West has the ability to be like that and she will be backed by the full might of the government and legal system. All she has to do is have a bad day and you are at her mercy. All completely out of your control.
I was falsely accused, arrested and held for 2 years before charges were dismissed. No restitution for the $200000 I spent in legal fees, no ability to sue her because she was still considered a "victim", and not even an apology. My name was publicly smeared causing many people to turn against me, even after charges were dismissed. I will not risk something like that again, no matter how small the possibility.
Another point of contention I have is the the women who are not like that, remain silent when women do stuff like this. I've never heard of a woman in divorce court saying, "I don't want any of his stuff and I'd like 50/50 joint custody." Maybe it happens, but it is very rare. You hear very few women speaking up about divorce bias or false accusations. The tiny handful of women who are actually held accountable for false accusations merely get a slap on the wrist.
I have run into more traditional women outside the West. In fact, I will be moving there soon.
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I love how progressives now try to blame the disaffection of white men on the "worst and stupidest parts of the internet." Men are destroyed in family court, not on the internet. Men are falsely accused and convicted in courts, not on the internet. Men are put in prisons (not the internet) on the accusation of one woman for crimes they did not commit. Feckless, misandrist judges (not the internet) take away men's children. Corporations, not the internet, fire men without cause just because a woman makes a remark to HR. Schools and universities (not the internet) tell young men they are garbage. The government, not the internet, forces men into financial ruin with child support and alimony. Women, not the internet, end the lives of unborn without the fathers being able to do anything about it. These same women (not the internet) do not pay child support in the rare cases the father gets custody. Judges, not the internet, laugh at men trying to collect that child support. Law enforcement, not the internet, refuses to act when a woman commits parental abduction. Millions of women, not the internet, alienate children from their fathers. 70-90% of women, not the internet, initiate divorces.
No, men don't need any part of the internet to make them leave society. What they experience daily in their lives is enough to do that.
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There's no protection in the USA from this garbage. CPS is beyond evil. I agree with Jeff Younger. Matt, it doesn't matter if a woman's fundamental values align with your own. Women change and the US legal system gives them a huge leverage over men. It's like leaving a pile of explosives in your home and just hoping it never blows up. There's a 50% or greater chance it will ... and if it does, it will destroy you. I've seen professing church women do the same or worse to their husbands as secular feminists. You too, are only one morning wake up away from your wife deciding she is "not happy" and you lose everything. Don't tempt fate by saying it will never happen. But Matt, you are 100% spot on about the shared values. You can certainly lessen the chances. There usually are red flags.
Men, do NOT marry in a Western nation. Do NOT marry a Western woman. Trump won't fix this. Even if he did, the libs will just change it back immediately when this nation of sheep elects a liberal again next cycle. Go East where marriage is still upheld and women don't end their unborn.
Texas is only a few years away from becoming a solid Blue State. Thank you Californians who all moved there and brought your politics with you. It's only the big cities that are blue: Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin and El Paso ... but they turn the entire state. I left Texas for Arizona because of this dynamic. Lo and behold, same thing in Arizona. The Californians leave their failed state, but then, oblivious to cause and effect, push for their same failed policies in their new state.
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Social media doesn't work the same way here in the Philippines as it does in the USA and West. Just because a Filipina is on Tiktok or FB, doesn't mean she is, or will be, poisoned by it. There are scores of Filipinas here who have consumed social media for years who are still traditional women. Why? Because there are strong foundations of family, culture and religions here in the Philippines. FB and Tiktok here are communications and selling platforms for small commercial ventures. Yeah, there's gossip and posturing, but the feminism and man-hating are recognized, and ridiculed, as stupid and godless Western cultural "values." Somebody will jump in with an example of a Filipina gone feminist. Yeah, they exist, mostly in the cities, but are a very small minority. Also, the laws over here are not overtly misandrist like in the West.
Now, bringing her back to the USA? That's a different story entirely. The USA is massively corrupting. The woman would need to have incredible self-discipline not to succumb to that. I know of quite a few men who have made it work though. Many of them live in rural areas.
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It is a common tactic of the left to take a fringe case (Conan, alcoholic parent, etc.) and spin it as the norm. As a corollary, they also spin established facts, backed up by research, as being anecdotal.
I love how these clowns always conflate RP and incel to be the same thing. Also, his claim that all of them had trauma from a woman. Well duh, women initiate 80% of the divorces, gutting the man financially and taking away his kids. Many of the women also falsely claim abuse in divorce court, painting the man as a criminal. Add to that all the false accusations at work places and all female HR departments manipulating and discarding men at whim. How about 12 years of school, followed by college, where boys and men are continually told they are garbage. And you WONDER why millions of men have issues with women? How could they not have issues with women? These two guys are a couple of femboy clowns shilling for women with the hope of getting a little cooch.
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I love how Shapiro doesn't even know what a passport bro is, yet lectures men about what they should do.
Control over women? Hahahaha ... it is the opposite you bloviating soyboy turd. We go someplace where women don't control men through the legal system, government, media, schools, universities and culture. The bloviating turd also says, "Don't try to sell us your lifestyle," when that is exactly what he does every day, pushing his woke, liberal agenda in the media. You want to talk exploitation, try divorce court where men are exploited regularly. How about women ending the lives of children with the father unable to do anything about it? How about hiring preferences that exclude white men? Yeah ... hahaha ... "exploitation." This guy is the poster boy for simps. Then simp-boy says expats just want to go have "random sex" with women ... no you bloviating turd, that is what American women do here. We go East to get away from the random sex and find a faithful woman who hasn't been polluted with a triple digit body count. He is one of the most ignorant excuses for a man I've ever seen. He's emotional because he hasn't touched a boob in years.
American women don't go overseas because the rest of the world's men don't want them. The court of world opinion has spoken. She says, "I'm not insulted or mad about this," and then proceeds to rant about it for 10 minutes. Yeah lady, you're totally chill.
After having been in the East, I am even more floored at how myopic, ignorant and arrogant many Americans are about the rest of the world. Utterly clueless. Eastern woman are not "more submissive" ... they just aren't raving, misandrist beyotches who constantly criticize, blame and shame. Why would any man want to "keep up with society" where the society is so messed up like in the USA. No, we reject your garbage.
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They don't need no men. They just need the electricity, oil, gas, roads, heating, air conditioning, plumbing, transport of goods, emergency services, mining, manufacturing, shipping, farming, software, computers, cell phones, housing, buildings, luxuries and infrastructure that men provide. All these industries are male dominated with no one screaming about women being under-represented there. Why? Because they are difficult and often outdoors. Women only want equality in the air-conditioned corner office going to a few meetings a day. Women have had 50 years of f'nism to get into these critical professions, yet they are all still mostly male. That indicates they will remain mostly male. Women brag about "doing it all on their own" while resting on the massive, luxurious infrastructure built and maintained by men.
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Every one of these Western women is a complete $h1tshow ... both in appearance and attitude. No wonder men are fleeing the West in droves.
I don't need a woman to tell me how to keep my house clean. I keep a better home, cook better and raise my child alone better than any ... ANY ... Western woman I have known. Another thing I don't need is a freeloading, entitled woman with a crappy attitude.
Why do well-adjusted, mature men avoid me? Well gee, I have a hunch it might be one or more of the following: Your constant drama and chaos, financial irresponsibility, entitlement and freeloading, more tats than a sailor, more piercings than a hardware store, weighing a lot more than the man, three kids by three baby daddy, triple digit body count, and rampant cheating. Could be all of those.
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I'm an expat in the Philippines. I agree with what this guy says. Men allowed all the feminist garbage in the West to take root and grow. Now, while complaining about feminism, they are major exporters of this entitled mentality to other countries. Before I became an expat, I assumed all expats were of higher quality because they were pro-active, able to navigate new cultures, more financially savvy, more organized and willing to take calculated risks. I was wrong. Many are train wrecks who simply relocated to another country. Mind you, the successful ones are higher quality men ... but one size does not fit all.
Don't lead with your wallet guys, especially after you just got your peen touched. I see it a lot here in the Philippines. It amazes me how many grown-ass men do not have the ability to: 1) discern between bar girls and good girls, 2) regulate themselves, or 3) say "no"
I also run into a lot of guys here who, having destroyed themselves over women, try to evangelize to you to stay completely away from women. Sour grapes. The women were not the problem, it was the men's own actions.
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I worked for a company for 12 years. I got sick from work related issues and took the short term disability benefit offered and guaranteed by the company. Two weeks into my 3 months of disability, the company stopped my paycheck citing an obscure legal loophole. However, they would not let me return to work because of my disability ... that they would not approve. So I sat out 3 months and decided not to work for them anymore. I sent my resignation by email to my manager, his director and our HR representative. None of the three even acknowledged it. I sent a farewell email to almost 100 people within the company, not saying anything negative or citing my reason for leaving. Not one single member of the leadership responded. However, almost all of my peers responded with shock and disbelief, wishing me well. They told me my boss had announced my departure within minutes of me sending the resignation email. Here is the real kicker. This is a "Christian" company that mentions serving God in their purpose and values, had a chaplain's department and prays before meetings. They loudly champion family, community, love, and servant's heart while stabbing people in the back. Bunch of hypocrites. Not even a "wish you well." Do not be loyal to any company.
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The predictable outrage at these age gap relationships also follows a very predictable pattern:
1. Inability to cite even a shred of proof that a relationship between an older man and younger woman is illegal or immoral ... so they resort to name calling like "creepy" and "gross." [Ironically, obese, tatted, pierced Western women are some of the most creepy and gross people I have ever seen.]
2. Falsely representing these relationships as older men with underage females. These fabrications then lead the way for further name calling like "predator" and PDF-file. Indeed, lies and name calling seem their go-to tactics. These are the same types of people who falsely accuse in public and court for personal gain. They are liars of low character.
3. Condemning only older men with younger adult women, but not older women with younger adult men. Since about 50% of the people doing the condemning are women, this is high hypocrisy on their part.
4. The morally and culturally superior Westerners who, never having left the West, will proceed to heap their wisdom upon the ignorant and impoverished plebes of the 3rd World and tell them how it should be done. Supreme Western arrogance. The people of the East laugh at your godless nations full of the worst perversions and corruption.
I have seen hundreds of these age gap relationships work very well in the East, producing strong marriages and good families. The women, who you say are "all about the money" are far, far less mercenary and materialistic than the average Western women. They know what love is, something very few Western women do. To Western women (and their soyboy allies)," love" is hot, casual bedroom action + tons of cash and prizes being thrown at the woman. They project their own reality onto a culture on the other side of the world, that they know nothing about. They cannot comprehend anything else ... so they lash out.
The bottom line is that their condemnations of older men with younger adult women is nothing more than gender and age bigotry. Try this against any other group beside older men and see how fast the entire internet turns on you.
It's also telling how many comments supporting these relationships are deleted by YouTube, but even the most vile name calling by those opposed is permitted.
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So, Western women's happiness started declining in the 70s. What was happening around that time that could have caused it? Hmmmmm ... let see. Couldn't possibly be ... feminism? They have achieved every feminist goal they wanted since the 1960s, yet are still miserable? I have been done even speaking with women here in the USA for quite a few years. It is utterly useless. Angry, bitter and miserable is their default mode and they will go out of their way to make sure you, as a man, know it is all your fault. I left the city to escape the nonsense, but it didn't take long for it to spread. The small towns here are already full of young, 200lb women with short blue hair, face piercings, tattoos up and down their arms and legs, and a barely concealed hatred for men. My flight for the Philippines leaves in 3 weeks. My goal is to establish permanent residence there.
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Betsy is the archetypical Western f'nist woman. Nothing you give them is ever enough, short of your own death and demise. My ex did the same with my son, turning him into a radical f'nist ally who now, as an adult, hates my guts for being male and white. It's not about the family, the children, or even the women ... it is about punishing men for all their imagined transgressions. It doesn't matter how good your women is, how much you trust her, how kind she is ... never, NEVER, marry in any Western nation.
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Where is her data to back this stuff up? We are not just bombarded with f'nists on media/social media, we are bombarded by them in real life. In the work place, in the store, in academia, and most tellingly, in family court. It's not just a small handful of loud f'nists. It is most of the Western women. When is the last time you ever saw or heard of a woman standing up in divorce court and saying, "I don't want any of his stuff?" It doesn't happen. Instead, she falsely accuses him, takes the kids, takes child support, takes 75% of the liquid assets (for the kids), takes 50% of his retirement and probably takes alimony too. Rinse and repeat on the next two poor schmucks and she set for life.
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@sjplus36 Yes, I do believe the afterlife is biblical, just not the Christian concept of heaven. You can find the answer to the "paradise" question by cross referencing where else it appears in the New Testament. Rev 2:7 states, "To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God." Then Rev 22:2 states in part, "In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life," This is the city of New Jerusalem that God creates after the 1000-year kingdom, where His people spend eternity. It is physically on Earth, not up in heaven.
After the return of Christ, there will be a 1000 year kingdom on earth, with Jesus on the throne and Satan imprisoned. After this period, a lot of people will still rebel. I imagine this is to show that people can and will rebel even when Satan is not in the picture. God will destroy the earth with fire, recreate a new earth and then create the city of New Jerusalem where those chosen by Him will live eternally. That's what the doctrine says.
As for property rights, the words of the 10th commandment state, "you shall not covet your neighbor's house ... nor anything that is your neighbor's." How can you covet what doesn't belong to another person? Yes, it's very clear throughout the Bible that God owns everything and people are steward of these things ... but that is a very far cry from "you will own nothing." Leviticus goes to great lengths to command not changing property lines or boundaries for people's land. If God owned it all in the absolute sense, then what would be the difference? A lot of people like to claim the Bible justifies socialism, particularly the verses in Acts. It does not. Plenty of examples of property rights.
I'm not making judgement calls here or telling others how they should live their lives. Just answering the question. Everyone is free to believe what they want. It's just that a lot of popular Christian views differ quite a bit from what the book of doctrine actually contains. So ... can a person really call themselves Christian, if they don't believe or follow the doctrine?
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I had the misfortune of being raised by two narcissists and was then married to a (later diagnosed) psychopath. That trio put all kinds of garbage into my head, with me thinking it was my own thoughts. I didn't finally become my own person until my late 50s after some serious counseling and in depth deconstruction of the tactics they had use. I made good use of both Robert Lifton's psychology of totalism and thought reform, and also Steven Hassan's BITE Model. In a nutshell, the process is very similar to what Dr. Taraban outlined. It is long and laborious. I am 7 years into it and still not done. However, as he stated, it also gets better and easier over time. Pretty soon you start questioning everything in your head ... not from confusion, but rather from examination and testing. I am able to capture random thoughts that are about to guide me and apply the deconstruction process to them. Still happens regularly every day. For me, I found the best way to reprogram or get rid of them is to set up mental trigger inside my head. I say to myself out loud, "The next time I think about X, I will remember that it was put there by people who wished to harm me. That is who they are, but not who I am." It works well for me.
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All this is very true. I have a Filipina wife and went to the Philippines. Americans who have never set foot outside the USA love to try to lecture me that what I am doing is wrong and dangerous. Not just women, but also their soyboy male allies. One woman even told me, "Don't ever get married over there! Do it here [USA] where the law protects you." Yes, I'm sure from her perspective, the American divorce laws are great. She didn't even know there is no divorce in the Philippines. Then I get people telling me how "dangerous" it is over there, when world data and personal experience shows it is a safer place than the USA. Of course, the default "they just want you for your money" argument comes up a lot too ... when the expenses incurred by the average American woman are easily ten times or more higher. The there is the "Asian fetish" or age gap shaming. They don't have a valid argument so they resort to personal attacks to paint the man as a pervert. Even many of the Western men who hate f'nism are still thoroughly indoctrinated into obediently remaining in the West and will aggressively try to talk you out of leaving. People in the West seem hell bent on shaming or frightening you into conforming to their narrow, tunnel-vision view of life and the world. Many of them act as though it is their moral obligation.
Meanwhile the Western women are rapidly approaching or have hit the wall, still alone, still miserable, still loudly proclaiming they are happy. While the men still obediently simp and do their 9-to-5 in cubicles. They can keep all that while I enjoy 25-cent double rum shots on the beach with a kind, beautiful and non-masculine woman. The only regret I have is that I didn't do this years ago.
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6-bedroom house?!?! Hahahaha. Those don't even exist unless your a gajillionaire. A man is usually happy in a cabin with a couple of acres making 30-40K per year as long as expenses are covered.
Man's income? Math is hard and I don't want to figure that out, so I'll just shoot for a kajillion-bajillion dollars. Every one of them seems confident that they can land the 1% guy.
Working in a STEM industry, does not mean you know STEM. You could be HR, a manager, culture ambassador, marketing, mail room, etc.
See how irritated they all looked when presented with reality? Imagine telling a regular man, "You're not going to get a supermodel." He would be like, "Yeah, I already know that."
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I was married to a female psychopath for several years. It did not end well. I was falsely accused and held for 2 years while she blew town escaped with almost all my assets. Had to sell my house (the only thing she couldn't take with her) to fund my legal defense. Charge were eventually dismissed, but both my finances and reputation had already been destroyed. Bear in mind that a psychopath convinced authorities, police, DAs and judges to have me arrested without a shred of evidence. They are that convincing.
For those commenting, if you have nothing positive to say ... then just shut your pie hole. I've heard all the lame comments before:
1. It's your own fault for falling for it. I would never fall for a psychopath. [Yes, you would. In fact, people who believe it won't happen to them are prime targets.]
2. You must have done something to trigger her. Nobody does something like that without cause. [ You are in a race between ignorance and stupidity. Educate yourself, if that is even possible. ]
3. You're not qualified to diagnose psychopathy. Psychopathy is not diagnosable. It was BPD. Blah, blah, blah. [ Spare me your pseudo-intellectual psychobabble. You're the type of clown who debates theories of warfare in the middle of a firefight. You're utterly useless. ]
4. I wouldn't put up with that. I'd sue her / take vengeance / put down my foot ... blah, blah, blah. [ I doubt you would. Just saying that proves you've never had a run in with either a psychopath or the US legal system. ]
There are more, but those are usually the top four.
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Ah yes. Nothing like an arrogant, entitled, white, liberal woman telling straight, white men what it's really all about. Thanks for clearing it all up, Joanne Lipman. You heard her white men. Know your place on the plantation. Keep paying the lion's share of taxes, keep the infrastructure running, give everything to those you've oppressed, and shut your pie holes. No thanks. I'll just keep sitting here on the beach on the other side of the planet with my beautiful non-liberal, non-white wife, sipping rum and enjoying the sun.
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Yeah, we can't handle Western women. It's hard to handle a woman who weighs 50 lbs more than you and is a foot shorter. Ignorant, fat, loud and arrogant. My departure date is in 3 weeks. What I have seen personally, women overseas have college degrees in real fields, speak at least two languages (usually more), most do NOT want to come to the USA, and they won't put up with abusive men ... real abusive men from their countries, not being declared "abusive" for using incorrect pronouns. They also treasure their children instead of deleting them out of convenience or career. A woman who will delete her own child, certainly will not care in the least about her husband or boyfriend.
My main reason for leaving isn't for the women however, it is because I'm tired of how men are treated in the West, especially veterans. Check out the self-deletion rates for veterans after they return home from war and the courts take away their children, home and finances because a woman was "not happy." Then they drain the man dry with child support and put him in jail for felony evasion when his money runs out and he can no longer pay. Thank you for your service. I'm a single father ... my ex has not paid a dime of court ordered child support in years. Guess what the authorities do? That' right, nothing ... because the person owing the child support has a vag.
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Get out of the resorts, Bo. What you're talking about is all in a bubble. You've been here once and seen the tourist side of it. Make another trip and stay in the provinces ... for a few months. You're doing the equivalent of visting a few resort locations in the US, Mexico, or France ... then claiming to know the male-female dynamic in that nation.
There is a huge difference between the two areas. It is a running joke here that all the "burikats" (promiscuous, semi-pro women) flock to the resort areas. They are not looked upon very well by the locals. What you're describing is exactly that.
There is a lot of bias around this topic. I am married to a Filipina and live in the Philippines. Here is what I have seen:
1. Most Filipinas do not want a "green card." Yeah, they would love to visit the West, but they want to live close to family back in the Philippines.
2. There are many guys who married Filipinas, brought them back to the USA, and made it work. For every one of these (exaggerated) stories I see, I know of five others who made it work just fine. However, those positive stories don't generate clicks or raging comments, so you won't see many videos about that. This guy is already lying in the title. She didn't have citizenship, just a green card. Big difference, but "citizenship" generates more rage clicks and comments.
3. If you engage with the pros and semi-pro women around resort areas, that's exactly the kind of relationship you will get. Transactional.
4. You disrespect the family, you will have trouble. You don't have to treat them like royalty, just be nice.
5. Filipinas are family-oriented, so they will want to help their family. Western men complain endlessly about not being appreciated by Western women. Here, you will be appreciated for what you bring ... provision. Yeah, don't be a fool. Draw a line. Set boundaries. Vet the family and don't get involved with people of questionable character. They exist everywhere. BUT, thinking you will get a woman here and separate her from her family is a pipe dream. If you want no family attachments, good luck getting a traditional woman anywhere. Who do you think made her traditional?
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Want to talk about being overworked, try being a soldier in a combat zone working 24/7, outdoors the entire time, no shower for weeks at a time ... oh yeah, and getting shot at. Working your tail off any nobody cares? Boo-hoo-hoo. Lily Singh had it so hard. Congratulations, now you know what it is like to be a man every day. Women get all the crappy jobs men don't want? Oh, you mean like trash collecting, fighting wars, electric lineman, oil rig worker, heavy construction, truck driving, plumber, carpenter, auto mechanic, and dozens more? Yeah, I'm totally seeing it (that was sarcasm).
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Women About Relationships
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Blah, Blah, Blah
Yadda, Yadda, Yadda
Blame, Blame, Blame
Complain, Complain, Complain
Whine, Whine, Whine
Men About Relationships
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I'm Done
Every single one of these video rants makes me cringe and want to toss my corn flakes. And American women wonder why men are no longer interested?
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I'm not looking for a house slave. I've done my own housework all my life, even when married to a Western woman. I can cook, clean, care for a child alone. That's not what I'm looking for. My desires are simple. Be feminine, don't be a b1tc4, don't add drama to my life, and don't drain me financially. Also, I would like a partner, not someone where it's just my turn today.
Its amazing how women complain about "hookup culture" when they are the ones who control whether intimacy will happen or not. Even a hint of forced or pressured intimacy is a serious crime in the USA, so what's the issue?
From my experience, Asian women from these countries have far better discernment about who/what an abusive man is and they won't put up with it. The won't be slaves, controlled or manipulated. They have real abusive men in their countries, not men who are condemned as abusive for holding a door open or using the wrong pronoun. Perhaps Western women just won't admit that Western men are a pretty goo deal. The rest of the world seems to think so.
From what I've seen over the years, Western women not only do NOT want Western men, they also want Western men to stay here and be alone. Doesn't look like that's happening. A get verbally attacked regularly by Western women because I don't want to be in relationships with them or even casually date them. I'm well past 40 and get approached regularly by women over 40 here interested in relationships, but even then all they bring is a list of demands and requirements. I'm like, "Let me get this straight. You're asking me to be in a relationship with you, not the other way around, and you come to me with a long list of requirements and demands? And you wonder why I won't have anything to do with you?" You cannot make this stuff up. It's a clown-world show.
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All these talking heads couldn't possibly be so obtuse as to not grasp why men are not working anymore ... so this has to be deliberate obfuscation. US society, media and government have told men for 40 years that they are garbage. Especially white men. They have treated men like garbage in society, in media, in the workplace, in academia and in the courts. Universities especially excoriate and vilify young men, so why should they attend these institutions. This has all been deliberate. Training, community, health, blah, blah, blah. None of that is the cause. Why would any man want to work for a society that hates him? I know I don't, so I won't. I certainly do hope this significantly affects the economy. Just rewards for treating men like garbage. Keep ignoring the underlying reasons and things will keep getting worse.
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Watching this sitting in a condo on a lake in the Philippines, just a short drive from the beach. Living here with my beautiful, traditional wife. She is feminine, kind, beautiful and appreciative of what a Western man has to offer. She has no desire to even visit the USA, much less live there. Having an amazing wife is just part of it. I also enjoy not being bombarded by "The Message" every day. I enjoy not seeing wall-to-wall overweight, tatted, pierced, short blue-haired, bloviating feminists everywhere. I enjoy my money having more value. I enjoy not being condemned for having a Y chromosome. I enjoy not being under the thumb of the misandrist American legal system. Yeah, almost everyone speaks English here. Yeah, white people are held up here as the beauty standard here ... but that is a very nice change after having been condemned in my own country for 40 years for being a white man. I don't mind it.
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It's even more amazing how many of these people with no original thought, whose values have been put into them by someone else, who jerk whenever the puppet masters pull their strings, hold PhDs and masters degrees.
Disney cartoons are filled with the bumbling, moronic husband with the strong, independent wife. Even the ones with animal characters are all like that. I point out to my young daughter on every occasion that this is not reality and is just a fake attack against men. She sees that it is her father who is always there for her, her father who takes care of and supports the family, her father who cooks, cleans and does the laundry, her father who brings in the money, and her father who spends a lot of time with her every day. Where is her mother? She is a deadbeat who abandoned the family and pays no child support. Something else a man cannot get away with.
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Translation of Western women's shaming language against Passport Bros
A foreign woman doesn’t love you. Translation: I am incapable of loving anyone, therefore no one else is either.
A foreign woman only wants your money. Translation: I am focused on money to the exclusion of all else. I want your money and I’m angry she is getting it.
A foreign woman only wants a green card. Translation: I worship the gynocentric West, therefore everyone else must too.
A foreign woman is just using you. Translation: I or another Western woman should be using you, and giving you far less in return.
A foreign woman just wants a meal ticket. Translation: I want a meal ticket … literally, on every date from every man. That is just the beginning. I also want men’s money, time, resources, house, car and obedience.
You have a fetish for Asian women. Translation: My obesity, tattoos, short hair and nasty demeanor have rendered me unattractive to men. Rather than work on myself, I will accuse men of perversion for being drawn to genuinely attractive women.
You are a predator for wanting a younger woman. Translation: I squandered away the best years of my femininity riding the cock carousel, when I could have used them to bond with a quality man. Now that I am far less desirable than younger women, I will shame men with false accusations in an attempt to both hurt the man and prevent another woman from bonding with a quality man.
You are a desperate loser who cannot get women in his own country. Translation: How dare you not want me or other strong, independent Western women! Rather than examine myself as to why this may be, I will just declare you defective so I don’t have to do any introspection or work on myself. This is the ultimate unsubstantiated cope, usually applied as a last-ditch shaming attempt when all else fails.
Foreign women barely speak English. Translation: I barely speak proper English, so I project that onto foreign women who speak three or more languages in order to make myself feel better. They aren’t here to defend themselves, so much the better.
Foreign women are uneducated. Translation: My worthless gender studies degree makes me unemployable, so I put down foreign women with actual employable degrees like teaching and science. This makes me feel better and I can ignore my own bad choices.
The man is exploiting the foreign woman’s poverty. Translation: Western men need to keep their money in the West to pay alimony, child support, and fund all the entitlement programs that benefit women.
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It has nothing to do with keeping a woman barefoot and pregnant. I clean my own house, cook my own food, and am a single parent caring for my child alone. I don't need or want a woman for that. Whenever a man rejects a woman, it is framed as his fault for being a misogynist, selfish or stupid - yet all from the perspective of the woman, not him.
Most women entering a relationship with money keep theirs and expect the man to pay expenses with his. It has everything to do with her money and education not benefitting the man at all, whereas the primary purpose of the man's money and education is to benefit her. So a woman's education, career and income are of no benefit to me whatsoever. Why should I care about any of that? On the contrary, women I've been with who have degrees and careers have been haughty, arrogant, critical and entitled. Like they were doing me a huge favor by just being with me. Their attitude is a HUGE turn off. I prefer being alone than with them.
The divorce argument doesn't make sense either. First, assuming the man will cheat and not the woman? Statistically women cheat more often and divorce more often. Second, the woman will spend what she earns on herself anyway, so she gets all her money and half of his during the relationship + half of his when she divorces him (all of hers is spent already). A better argument would be for men to never marry at all. Many men date women because of the woman's heart, attitude and yes, beauty, not caring about their education or earning potential. Except for the "bad boys" who just use women for sex and then dump them, but ironically many women are drawn to this type of man.
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Stay away from single mothers. Don't even date them. The baby's daddy should be raising the children, supporting the children, spending time with the children, paying for the babysitter, etc. If she chose that guy poorly, it's not your responsibility to fix it. I don't speak from personal feelings, I speak from personal experience. It never, never, NEVER ends well. I very much understand the male desire to be the rescuer, but it WON'T work. Also, you run the big risk of getting attached to the kids, even loving them, and then having her pick up and leave whenever she wants and you'll never see them again.
Nice generalization about men not being able cook or clean up after themselves. I'm a better cook and keep a better house that 75% of the women I've known.
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@rozzerthat I could have stated my views better. I'm 100% in agreement with you that it comes across as selfish and uncaring. Been accused of that in the past, so I introspected to see what I was doing to cause those impressions. I also agree that genuinely not caring is an unhealthy option. I have a lot of sympathy for my colleagues and there are quite a few for whom I will drop anything I am doing to get them what they need, irrespective of my views on anything else. Many of them do the same for me. My perspective is more towards management and leadership. They don't take advice or recommendations, then expect the dev to clean up the mess. It is consistent and cyclical every place I have worked. So, that's where I stopped caring and just go through the motions. Every now and then I will voice a warning or alternate solution, then just sit back and wait for the inevitable. When that happens, I try to let it have as little impact on my life as possible. Where years back I would have busted tail thorough a week of sleepless nights to fix it, today I just put in my 8 while making it look like I am doing more. I am not killing myself for their mismanagement or visionary ideas that didn't pan out. Having said that, if a manager shoots straight with me and doesn't try to burn me out as a tool, I will go a long way towards working for and with them. If they snow me or burn me though, it's over.
I'm old and at the end of my career, so things that don't matter to me anymore might be critical to a younger dev.
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If she thinks lifting granny is difficult, she should try breaking track on a 75-ton tank while under fire.
Destroy the man -> Destroy the father -> Destroy the family -> Take over the children -> Control the next generation -> Control the world
The average modern f'nist and her allies uses all the same tactics as a narcissist: Projection, deflection, gaslighting, "not my fault," guilting, shaming, pity play, threats, imperative thinking, triangulation, victim/offender reversal, and more.
Piers Morgan is supremely annoying and arrogant even when he is making sense.
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I turned my back on Western women years ago. I am married to a Filipina and living in the Philippines. I do not regret either. No desire to return to the West. My wife couldn't care less about the price or composition of the ring. She has no desire to live in the US either. Many Filipinos/Filipinas see it as a godless, hedonistic, entitled nation. My wife is very traditional and comfortable with gender roles. She does the doing cooking and cleaning, and I do the repairs, heavy lifting, etc. There is no posturing, no arguing, no claims of being exploited. That's just expected as normal ... like breathing or eating. Oh ... she also doesn't use bedroom intimacy as a weapon or exploitative lever ... like EVERY Western woman I have ever known or seen.
I occasionally see Western women here in the resort areas. Almost all of them are overweight, tatted, pierced and with permanent RBF. They shoot daggers at any Western man with a younger, more fit, more beautiful Filipina. If they are a couple and a Western man is with them, he is also usually overweight, tatted, pierced and looks like he is on temporary work release from prison. The only time they smile is a few seconds for selfies.
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90% of the Western women I have known over the last 40 years cheated, were abusive in some way, used men in an aggressively mercenary manner, destroyed families, used children as pawns, etc. And a significant subset resorted to outright theft/fraud, false accusations and charges, abandoning/ending their own children, and concerned with nobody but themselves. Western culture is to blame, encouraged and enabled by the legal system, government, media, corporate world, and schools/universities ... and all the soyboy male allies in all those institutions.
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I suffered poor health because of extended long hours and stress due to dealing with the effects of a narcissistic contractor over a period of years, as well as a gaslighting boss. I applied for medical leave, which was granted, but HR conducted a "required" investigation into the cause of workplace effect on my health. I was astute enough not to mention my boss at all, just the contractor. They stopped my paycheck 2 weeks into the 3-month paid medical leave, citing some insurance reason. Their "unlimited" time off policy also had a loop hole in the fine print that maxed at 2 weeks. When I tried to return to work so I could get paid, they said I could not because I needed to be medically cleared first ... for a condition they denied. I quickly noticed that nobody in any leadership position would talk to me anymore or return emails. The narcissist contractor meanwhile, had received another 30K contract. I saw the writing on the wall and made other arrangements during my medical leave. I resigned on the day I was scheduled to return. My boss, my director, my HR rep ... none of them even acknowledged my resignation. I just received the COBRA letter in the mail 2 weeks later. My former company is Christian-based and loudly touts its godly purpose and values. A classic example of why so many people become atheist.
I totally get it that a company is in business to make money, not to support employees. However, it is highly hypocritical for those same companies to exhort values like "family," "community," and "team" when they only use them as manipulative tools to get more out of employees without intending to abide by anything embodied in those concepts. You owe your employer NOTHING.
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I'm married to a Filipina and live in one of the smaller islands in the Philippines ... far away from the big cities. She is a country girl and has no desire to live in a city, even in the Philippines. She considers that life godless and corrupt. It took me 5 years to find a woman like her, carefully vetting hundreds of different women. No, I didn't sleep with any of them ... I said vetting, not bedding. I needed her parent's permission just to start courting her. She was a virgin when we married.
However ... my goal was to move to another country with more traditional values. A wife was a part of that, it was NOT the goal of that.
Get boots on the ground. Don't try to make a bar girl into a girlfriend or wife. Don't mess with freelancers in the tourist zones. It's not just financial risk. You can also catch something that's incurable. If she's aggressively chasing your, it's probably a setup. There are a lot of amazing, traditional women in the provinces ... but you have to put in some effort to meet them and get to know their families first. If you're a city guy, you will have a lot less luck. I was off grid rural back in the US, so I fit better into the province life ... although, I warn you, it is still more austere than in the USA.
I haven't seen another Westerner in probably 2 months, which is fine with me. Yeah, there are a lot of creepy Western guys here. Not the majority, but I've seen my share of train wrecks and predatory weirdos ... but all in the big cities or resort areas. I've seen guys land a beautiful, young Filipina and then stupidly cheat on her ... or get drunk and slap her around. Not the majority by far, but enough to make you wonder. That's why I stopped hanging out in the areas where Westerners congregate.
Property laws here stipulate that foreigners cannot own property here, so it will be in your wife's name. It's a risk. Don't bet more than you can afford to lose. Also, don't lead with your wallet. If you do that, you'll attract women who primarily want your wallet. You also need to keep a clear head with respect to what you spend. Unlike the USA, where the government can take money from you and give it to a woman, you are in complete control over what you spend here and on whom/what you spend it. So exercise that control and don't give it up just because a woman touches your peen.
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I'm glad I was very divergent from cultural norms early in life. Kindergarten, in fact. By the time I was an adult, I was very comfortable going against the grain. The only area in which I struggled was cultural expectations of marriage and family, and I paid dearly for that ... but still managed to recover and do it my way. Orion is spot on about the cost of it all. I lost both my parents, many of my friends, and my eldest child through it all. Fortunately, I am an introvert, so I don't struggle much with loneliness. I am grateful for the few who do support me and I devote my time and energy to them. DNA doesn't equal required commitment.
For decades I was amazed, sometimes shocked, at the level of condemnation and vitriol thrown at me just for not conforming. For example, declining management positions so I could remain a staff engineer. This was first met with puzzlement, then gossip behind my back, and finally personal attacks to my face. Why? Who was I hurting? In fact, I was leaving a position available for someone who actually wanted it.
When I chose to move away from the city to a rural, off-grid life, I met the same dynamics. First puzzlement, then gossip, then personal attacks. Again, who was I hurting? One would think that in American culture, just wanting to be left alone is a capital crime.
Here's an easy one. Tell your fellow Americans you have no interest in football and couldn't care less who won whatever game. How about telling them you don't celebrate Christmas? I have never experienced such a nasty level of condemnation and attacks as I did for doing both of those. Confessing to be a cannibalistic serial killer would have gone over better. It is truly amazing how so many people are narrow-minded, intolerant, ignorant NPCs.
I learned all this through trial and error. I wish someone like Dr. Taraban had been around during my childhood to educate me. Of course, that makes the assumption I would have listened.
I am keeping my younger children out of the prison of Western culture ... out of public schools, out of universities, out of social media, and now out of the West entirely. I am teaching them how to succeed and be happy, without blindly conforming to what they are not. Of course, this has been met with strong criticism and condemnation from the NPCs who remain behind.
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