Comments by "joe k" (@joek600) on "Real Reporter"
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Im Greek. I wanted to do a comparison of prices between your supermarkets (a country in war and under sanctions) with mine (a country in the Eurozone and a member of the different versions of EU since 1980). I understand that your supermarket was a rather posh one, so I will compare with one of our normal local chains, not discount supermarkets like Lidl etc. I wish you could be more detailed in your shopping list at the end, referencing weights and possibly the status of each brand in the market (cheap, regular, expensive, crazy expensive). I tried to do my best to match your list, where it was not possible i noted the alternative product or quantity available here. Ι used regular brands not private label ones.
Fresh Milk 1lt = 1.71
eggs (six regular) = 1.86
Lentils 500gr = 1,63 (Backwheat is kinda exotic here so I replaced it with something as common in the Greek market. FYI 500gr of Backwheat is 2.46)
Minced chicken 1k =6.90
Cheese (feta) 450gr= 6.00
Coca Cola 1.5lt= 1.77
Yogurt (3x cups of 200gr)= 3,72
Butter 250gr= 3,18
Tomatoes 1k= 1,60
cucumbers 1k= 0,64
Apples 1k = 2.00
Potatoes 1k = 0,88
Bread (one loaf)= 1.20
Chocolate bar 100gr = 1,58
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Up to this point we are at 34,67 euros. Lets add your fancy smansy ice cream and pelmeni
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Ice Cream 650gr = 13,34
Ravioli 250 gr = 4,55 (Pelmeni do not exist in Greece and Im quite sure that your packs are much much bigger, so I replaced them with ravioli)
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Grand total = 52,56 euros
Im curious to see the total in other EU countries.
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I just accidentally stumbled on this video and I have to say that you did a great job. This video encapsulates my feelings about this conflict and the people involved. Life is fucking complicated. Somebody can seem like a gun nut, but he also can be a good friend and a thoughtful person. Im Greek, 20 years ago, when I was 24, from a strange stroke of fate I found myself in a serious relation with a girl from a town of Lugansk. For 2 years I was going back and forth there staying for long periods, and made myself the local exotic curiosity lol. Im still in touch with my ex, especially after the start of the war, getting news of our friends there. For our ''western media'' these people do not exist. 3 days ago a building 200m down the road of my ex's house got bombed by a HIMARS. 3 floors damaged and probably more than 20 people dead. I say probably because many were dismembered. Not a military target in the area, just residents. But still these people dont count and they are referred to as crazy Russian nationalists, on Putin's payroll, ''separatist terrorists'', all of them. All Putin's agents under mind control hating our ''western values''.
Funny because I clearly remember most of them being metalheads, into fantasy/scifi literature, watching Hollywood movies, following to the best of their ability the fashionable trends, wanting the same things any young person wants everywhere. There was not one ounce of nationalism in them and in fact when i was asking them if they are Russians (everybody spoke Russian everywhere) I was always corrected by saying ''we are Russian speaking Ukrainians''. Many of them were extremely apolitical, thinking that anyway everyone is a thief so there is no reason to even go and vote. Actually my ex was making fun of me being political back then.
Now if you call them Ukrainians, they will break your head and they are all VERY political. No reporter ever got in the trouble to ask ''what happened?'' and ''why''. What turned them against their former state. Is Russia paying so well that average people, with families are willing to endure being bombarded, sniped and constantly on the brink of personal tragedy for the last 8 years? How many silver coins (according to the Ukrainian state) are enough for a family to stay in such an environment ''for the love of Putin''? Are they really Orcs and robots without feelings as they are presented? Or is there much more to the story?
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@Kinotaurus Thank you! I know that there is a large Greek community over there, many people, even in Greece, have forgotten that there is a continuous presence of Greeks in the area from the time of the Black Sea coast colonization with several Polis -states back in the 7th century BC, all the way to Byzantium and later to the orthodox communities set up by Catherine the Great.
If our government had any semblance of courage and dignity, the least they could do, would be to break a deal with both sides during the siege of Mariupol, have a few days of cease fire, send over the fleet and evacuate the people who were trapped in there. During the war in Georgia back in the 90's they did that and many people were saved.
During the start of the siege the TV networks here sometimes had a link with Greeks living in Mariupol. Every time they mentioned something contradicting the EU narrative the news casters were going in full scramble mode. Most of those videos are gone from youtube, but I managed to find one that I watched as it happened and curiously was not erased.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHfAcIPyhGk&t=72s
The man is a retired officer of the Greek army living with his Ukrainian wife and their family in Mariupol. At some point when he is asked why dont they leave the city, he said that they cant because Azov snipers are shooting everybody trying to get out and emphasizes that they are fascists and the cause of everything going on there. The news presenters quickly tried (unsuccessfully) to change the subject.
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In a sane world, one should dismiss completely types like Ryan and move on. But we don't live in a sane world and that greasy meatball was all out for a character assassination, so a reply was obligatory. In my country we have an expression ''you slayed him with a cotton swab''. It refers to a situation when a low intelligence rude boor is put into his place, with elegance, and why not sarcastic humor.
Being a narcissist is toxic and negative by definition. Being a narcissist while you don't have the looks, brains, education or charisma, is tragic. Ryan is a tragic figure, and one can even sense his jealousy of Konstantin, when he refers to his qualities even as a jump point for straight sycophancy. Ryan is one of those extremely pedantic individuals, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel if that could provide them with a ''win'' cause they desperately need one.
Expect him to come back again and again, cause that type never knows when to stop. I would not be surprised if he was on the payroll of one of those NGOs that run influencers online. Thats not a badge of honor or testament to his quality since these agencies now days will take in anyone.
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@fridest By grocery store I guess you refer to your equivalent of ‘’magazin’’ and not to a supermarket. Anyway I will try to answer for both. Most of the neighbourhood grocery stores are mom and pap businesses and they maybe have up to 3 employees, but most usually one or two plus the owner who is also working. Supermarkets depending on the size can have 50-60 or more employees.
In most cases they are all considered unskilled workforce and receive the basic salary, which is around 650 euros, pocket money after all the deductions for pension and healthcare/taxes.
Small grocery stores usually they are open in the morning, they close down at midday and open again in the afternoons for about 3 hours. Legally an employee should work for 8 hours but in todays reality, yeah good luck with that. They are also expected to place products, clean the store etc. it is illegal to charge any loses of the store due to negligence or theft to the employee, but one too many and you are out without a job.
The supermarkets are open from 8 in the morning till 9 in the evening. The employees used to work in 8 hours shifts before the neo-liberal onslaught. Now there is a small core of 8 hours employees, those are the privileged ones, that have full labour rights. The majority are 4 hour and 6 hours ‘’part time’’ employees. I used quotes because the majority of them are forced to work for 8 hours most of the time without pay but even when they are given overtime pay this is calculated against them by the state ending up in to raised taxation that normally would refer to ‘’extra’’ income but due to the reality of the situation it’s their normal income. I have a friend who worked as a cashier in one of the largest supermarket chains in Greece and when she asked me something about her taxes in the springtime when we are filling our income declarations, I totally freaked out because she was getting less than half of my income but had to pay a lot more taxes without owing any real estate. In the recent past the government changed the law where you were entitled an automatic raise for every grouping of three years term that you have as an employee in a certain field, and that was transferable to a possibly new employer. Now you get a raise if and when your employer feels like regardless of your years of expertise in that sector. Your salary will be the product of a negotiation with your employer. As Achilles said to Hector’s pleadings for delivering his dead body to his parents, ‘’since when the lions bargain with the sheep?’’. The employees again cannot be charged for any theft or damage but as I said that can be the cause of being fired.
I have seen many times in supermarkets cashiers or security placing products or advertisements, something that’s clearly not their job description.
Average rent for a three room apartment 350-400 euros. Average cost of utilities in the present situation is around 250 euros if you are very careful. The average internet/telephone flat rate is 30-35 euros, the cheapest mobile connection is around 20 euros and via card it’s 13 euros per month.
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@fridest in Greece VAT is 24% some categories of essential food is at 13%. In supermarkets and other businesses of the kind it’s also forbidden to sit, the employees are taking their 20 min break but only in one chain that I know ( a friend works there) they are allowed to sit in the cafeteria that is on the last floor and take something for lunch. The government in 2010 ( same party as today different prime minister) introduced a law where people under 30 were payed 550 euros. The basic salary back then was I think 680 for unskilled hand labour and 750 for an office job. The law was supposed to give the incentive of hiring young people so the government could make the horrible youth unemployment statistics look better. Guess what happened. Many companies and not just small ones even Coca Cola did it, fired their existing personnel to the degree that it was possible, and replaced it with young people working for this new lowered wage. That carried on until 2017 if im not mistaken, I remember that it was one of the very few things that the Tsipras government managed to reverse, but the universal again for all age groups basic wage remained at the lowered 650 euros. Basically you can’t exist which that kind of money and that’s the reason why most Greek young people stay with their parents even after 30 years old. It’s very difficult to rent alone, if you don’t have financial help from your parents or a relationship that will move in and split the costs. It’s virtually impossible to buy an apartment without an eternity of debt and even if you are ok with that the bank no longer provide loans. Despite the fact that they were saved from bankruptcy 3 times with state money, instead of being nationalised since they failed to keep their house in order, they remained private institutions with the promise of providing liquidity in the market. Well guess what. They lied and nothing happened to them. The only way that the situation did not lead to generalised tragedy was that Greeks for the most part still own their own home, thus providing shelter to their set to fail kids and also for the most part the private debt was relatively low. For example the generalised use of credit cards and bank loans in Greece became a thing in the late 90’s before that credit cards was an oddity for very rich people and even then most shops under a certain level could not accept them. The banks were not giving out loans because drachma was a soft currency, but that made it very easy to build or buy your own house. It’s those houses that the neo-liberals are after now basically.
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