Comments by "Kora Na" (@korana6308) on "TIKhistory"
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TIK I respect you and your videos, thank for themπ. But mental gymnastics in this one was on another level... 2:55 Britain declared WAR which meant that Germany had to militarize MORE now. And that it's trade routs were blocked now... It's a WAR. Britain did it not Germany!!!
1:23 "March 1939"... Except that it had signed an alliance pact ONLY on August 25 1939 after which there were a few attempts at negotiations and later Germany requested ambassadors from England and Poland on 29 August 1939 which both countries refused to do (why?), ONLY AFTER, Brits refused to negotiate. The next day Germany invaded Poland!!!
Question: why was it so eager to defend it in the first place? No matter how you frame it, it wanted to start the war ... And I perfectly understand that it's a hard pillow to s. π
Example with the bully doesn't make sense... Because who defines who is a bully and who is not. It's a third person's perspective, which decides who is a bully and who is not...
"Morally they are right to do so" who defines the morality? And why were Brits supporting Poles who wanted independence and didn't support Poles who didn't want it... BINGO!!! because it was doing it in it's own interests (destroying Russian Empire). That's where those supposed "morals" came in the first place... and if we dig deep enough... it was because they WANTED to start the war, to destroy remnants of the Russian Empire... and they did.
TIK, by that logic, I have a question. What would you do, if Scots gained independence, and Russia signed a treaty of mutual defense with them vs England. How would that feel to youπ? And who is morally right here. Is Russia in the moral right to defend Scotland and their independence? Or those pro British Scots are right??? See how that works? In reality it would suit Russian interest to support pro independence Scots. That's the only reason why it would do it... AND THAT'S "morals" in politics 101...π€
p. s. Poland as well as Finland were ex Russian Empire territories, which from Russian perspective was defending it's status quo... But thank you for your videos anyway, I love your work. π
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Wow, I feel so honoured. That's my comment at 8:00 . Just to clarify something. I agree with 95% of what you are saying in your videos TIK. More so, your videos were like a breath of fresh air for me. So I appreciate your work and your response and I agree with your tier list. The only part I was not agreeing with is that something "should be ignored" (namely the "F tier"). And you seem to interpret it as it should have been TAKEN as a source with great relevance... NO. I haven't said or implied that. The tier list is important, but you shouldn't "ignore" anything, that is just WRONG and non scientific.
I've already started writing a really long response comment to your objections, and it took me like an hour already, and I haven't even gotten past like the 10% mark of what I wanted to say, so to properly answer your comment with due amount of respect that I want to give it, it would take me a really long time... And youtube wouldn't allow such a long comment anyway, and nobody would probably even read it anyway...
So if you or anyone else has some specific questions to my original comment that require my clarification, I would gladly elaborate on it in this comment section... Or if there's any interest on my full response to the TIK document, I could do a proper response comment too but that would be a long read... I will only do it if I know there's any interest to it in the first place...
And just to reiterate I have a huge amount of respect for you and your work TIK, and I agree with 95% of it, doesn't mean that I'm not going to criticize the other 5%.
Cheers, your Kora Na / Max.
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I was on board with the video right up until the 27:37 ... didn't you say that you can't ignore certain sources just because you didn't like them??? which is the opposite of what you are suggesting in this chart. For objective truth you can't just ignore a certain source. You can definitely consider them less reliable and give them the least amount of attention, even giving the tiers to the sources is fine. But you can't outright ignore them by the very definition. I can even go over every single point:
Forgeries - how do you know it's a forgery? if it's a forgery what was the reason for the forgery? perhaps the author wanted to actually instate the actual truth into the text or a doctrine? why not? on top of that, I've been recently hooked into some medieval book restoration videos here on youtube, and it turns out that it's a common practice, to "fill in the missing gaps" in texts that are missing something (to the best of their ability)... So they are in a sense are forging something... And if you'd discovered that book after a 100 years time and not know about the supposed restoration, and you would discover that the actual paint on that book is only 100 years old and is not 500 years old as you were lead to believe... therefore you would come to the conclusion that it has been forged or manipulated... The forging is also an information in itself so it is by itself is relevant. Who had forged it and why? Perhaps he was recreating the ACTUAL document. How would you know?
Beliefs - beliefs or religious beliefs in particular are usually formed on the basis of the actual events and the actual truths, they can be misinterpreted, yet they always take something factual at it's core.
Zero evidence - how do you know there's 0 evidence? Sometimes people might even forget to include their evidence or sources, it doesn't mean that their account is invalid, or that evidence doesn't exist.
Cartesian Doubt - since when being skeptical is wrong?
Slanderers - I agree with this to a certain degree, though usually slanderers have some evidence to back up their claims, though I agree that most of the time it's usually irrelevant to the topic.
Smearers - If I understand it correctly those are the people who go on a tangent about irrelevant points? How do you know they are irrelevant? ( if I understood it correctly).
Proven liars - again, a proven liar or "someone who is wrong for an attempted gain of his personal benefit", does not necessarily lies all of the time. Or at least not in the area that it would be irrelevant for them to lie in for their benefit. There's a case of pathological liars... (however I'd still argue that their opinion could still be relevant to a certain degree).
Whataboutism - comparative analysis is actually the best thing we have to get to the truth.
Dialectics - again gaining different subjective perspectives, how could that be bad?
Subjectivism - bias is bad but bias has it's ground too, just like with someone who is not being honest, if you know why that it , you can potentially sieve out the nuggets of truths from it.
Postmodernists - you obviously can't take it as your primary source, but it still worth to consider.
Magic - ? to me that sounds like no explanation and the person is trying to cope out of an answer.
Spirits - same thing.
Thank you for your videos and your work.
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@Jayare175 the problem is that your opinion is subjective. Because I've only used Cartesian Doubt because you've thought that I did, and you'd classified it as such. Where in fact I did not. And it is only your misinterpretation of my comment.
I actually for some reason see alot of the times people misinterpreting things, and my comments in particular, and then getting punished for it...
I will give you an example from my personal experience... there was this SC2 streamer like 10 years ago or so, the rule on his stream was "Don't give me any advice or you will get banned". He was busy inside his game and got to the comment section for like 15 seconds... And is reading the comment which came down from me, where I was discussing with another guy what I was doing in that exact situation(there were only like 2 of us there). And he misinterpreted my comment and thought that that comment was addressed at him, and that I was trying to give him an advice... of how he should have done things better in his game... Which was not my intention at all, and I wasn't even addressing him, I was speaking to someone else in the comment section. He misinterpreted my comment, because of his personal b. fallacy, and I got punished for it.
Now why did he misinterpret it? Because his mind chose to interpret it the way he wanted it to for one or the other reason. I've had no control over and, and couldn't react or have a last word... I got "ignored". I was forced by him and his mind into his f. interpretation of events of things that I've said. That he interpreted a certain way... which were purely his wrong interpretation of my words and it wasn't the actual meaning that was implied by those words... but rather his interpretation...
So you are effectively forcing your mind to an interpretation of reality which is always subjective. The difference is the amount and deepness of a thought you are willing to give or allocate for an interpretation of anything in life. Which is right back to my point... You can't disregard or "IGNORE" any source even in the "F tier". Because your view on anything in this life is always subjective. And your subjection changes throughout your life.
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