Comments by "Ash Roskell" (@ashroskell) on "The Critical Drinker"
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Me too. Still, can you blame people for wanting to rake in boatloads of cash? I blame the idiot public for funding this shite. Here’s what’s next, in case you were wondering. Boston Dynamics will make a robo-saur hybrid and a complete robot version of T-Rex, for the military (coz’ they’re bored with explosives, computer guided arsenals, drones and world domination, n’ stuff) which will, “horror of horrors,” break free of their programming, move in to Elon Musk’s place and threaten Earth from space. And only Chris Pratt, who can talk binary code, will be able to persuade them to go live on Alpha Centuri by the final reel, thus saving us all again . . . There’s the treatment for Jurassic 7. Now, go sell it to Hollywood and make yourself rich, Drinker. 😂
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The script is bad. Heard every line before in something else. Especially in those crucial opening moments. “What about my family?” “That was not our deal!” Really? Show don’t tell. Too much exposition too. A little more imagination applied to how those opening scenes could have been presented differently would have really helped. Watch Breaking Bad for inspiration: How to tell a familiar story in a new way, without spending extra budget.
If you want constructive criticism I will share my thoughts on how you could have done the opening better, hooked your audience, through visual storytelling and gotten the same plot points covered.
But, “If these assholes don’t kill you, I will,” and, “The only people dying today is those fuckers,” are so old and overused, it’s actually off putting. Clever, witty dialogue is crucial in a scene like that and would have suited these characters better, showing they are as smart as they are tough.
Read some Raymond Chandler and look specifically at interrogation scenes, or scenes when Philip Marlowe is cornered by the villains. The dialogue is exquisite. “Talk is cheap . . . My patience is wearing thin,” etc, is putting the viewer to sleep.
I do wish you success and I would help you for free. But I doubt you’ll even read this one in a couple of thousand comments.
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The Critical Drinker : Not with you on this. And, some of your, “conclusions,” were factually wrong, which irritated me. But, I still love you. No one’s perfect 😉. It’s classic in it’s own right, but I’ll only tell you why, (and what mistakes you made) if you ask to hear it. So, that’s a conversation that will never happen. But, you’re usually so spot on about these things, and you’re charming, even when you’re wrong, so . . . You may live 😁
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@pamceol717 : Yes. Yes it would, “make more sense just to make a different movie.” Unless . . . Unless, that is, you are more interested in making some MONEY than you are in art, animation, the legacy of Walt Disney or pleasing an audience. They just want to cash in on old IP’s because they have no creative thoughts of their own and this model has worked pretty well for the juggernaut that is Disney PLC for some years now. They think they can have their cake and eat it too, by stepping on the shoulders of giants and hijacking their original artistic achievements for the sake of crowbarring their own political messaging in them, in a rather sinister, sort of Soviet Hollywood, kind of way, while making lots and lots of MONEY. I hope it backfires this time. 👍
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@clarkalvarez1729 : What’s different now (and I can’t believe I’m having to explain this) is that Disney is not offering you a sociological analysis of post medieval world views, the moral ambiguity of folk tales, or a critique of womanhood as viewed historically. They are marketing a remake of their own FAMILY classic movie, as they have done with all the other cartoons they have translated to live action. To put it in simpler terms, Disney is supposed to be giving you a remake of THEIR OWN movie. Their own movie that was NEVER meant to reflect the values or horror beats of the original, just as Cinderella never did, nor did Pinokkio, etc.
The complaint is NOT about the original tale. That misses the point entirely. The point is that Disney seems to be ashamed of their own classics, which the people in their audience are not. Snow White, the cartoon is still beloved, and will remain so, long after this revisionist trash of a, “remake,” is forgotten. Instead of insulting Walt Disney’s own work (he was the lead animator and artist for the original) why didn’t they just make a different movie about female power fantasies and how, “awful,” men are? Because no one is interested? Probably.
Do you get it now? Maybe, if you still don’t, you could do some research on art, art criticism and the cultural relevance of revisionism? Y’know? Maybe, “read a book?”
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@sydliquid2152 : Jeez, calm down, kid. Why shouldn’t people, “care,” about art, criticism or their heritage? And, you’re wrong. Studios fund movies for the, “cash grab,” but artists, who believe in art, make the movies. Or that is how it is supposed to work, and that’s why people don’t like to see resources wasted on cynical cash grabbing, when it could be spent on better, more entertaining, less, “lecturing,” content. I put the question to you out of politeness, but you had to be a dick about it. So, now I’ve shown you how and why you are WRONG, empirically. You were better off putting questions instead of turning into a Disney Dicktator. 😉
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The Critical Drinker : You are one of the few reviewers who can actually make me genuinely Lol. Thanks. Doesn’t everyone know that, “It was all a dream,” is the most hackish bollox for a story? It’s also a call back to their most successful movie, where Picard had the same dream experiences about the Borg in First Contact, using what worked best for them back then, and rehashing it, right? Anyhoo. Love your wit and humor, even if I do hate ALL politicians, and especially the, “bad,” Orange man. Never change, you extraordinary renaissance man, you complete me 😉👍
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So, I watched it, based on your recommendation. Cost me £18 on Amazon Prime. It’s a masterpiece. But you should have mentioned the real genius behind this, Lauren LeFranc. Seems she both wrote and developed the show, which means she put all of those great words into the mouths of that almost flawless cast AND did all the heavy lifting that is required of a screen developer these days. It also goes a long way to explaining how she nailed the, “Giganti,” character and Penguin’s mom into such compelling and ultimately tragic characters. We’re talking Shakespearean levels of complexity, nuance and depth here.
By the start of the last episode I was certain I knew what was going to happen to the antagonist and was right, but plenty of other stuff happened that I just did not see coming and left me speechless. Watched the entire series in less than 24 hours, so riveted was I.
I can see why Farrell would be reluctant to do a follow up series for the reasons he’s stated, regarding the makeup, but also for artistic reasons. As an Exec on the show and, it seems, with a close relative being a producer (his wife, or daughter, perhaps?) it’s not just a huge commitment that can strain family relationships (especially if season 2 were to bomb) but, where do you go from there?
However, I do have an elegant solution: We are given a teaser about another well known Batman character, just before the credits role on season one, after all. So, the way to go is to do a set of shows, with the same writers, producers (and especially the cinematographers and set designers!) featuring other characters from the Arkham universe, into which we insert cameos from Farrell’s Penguin?
Less hard physical labour for him, whilst building up a revenue stream as a show runner, producer AND giving the audiences what they want? Four or five seasons down the line, after a whole set of characters have had their stories told, with the Penguin playing a role in each of them, consolidate them all with a special, or with a cinematic movie, using a similar model that Disney did so successfully in the early years of Marvel, before they ruined it all?
If they can maintain this quality of writing and production values, without greedy Warner execs f*cking it all up? . . . Just imagine how great this could be?
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