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Comments by "geodkyt" (@geodkyt) on "Airtronic's Modernized 40mm China Lake Grenade Launcher" video.
@user-njyzcip What warcrimes? It's not against the Laws of War to use a shotgun. We already addressed this back in WWI when the Germans whined about US shotguns... I mean, it's generally a stilupid idea as a general purpose battlefield weapon (we still issue shotguns primarily as specialist weapons for things lolike lock breaching, that have a secondary antipersonnel capability), and a 2" shotgun is nigh on "I burn cable insulation and smoke the fumes" stupid. But it's not a warcrime.
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@user-njyzcip The choice of a stupidly short shotgun doesn't make anything a warcrime. Only what he does with it, same as if he used an M4. If it wouod be a warcrime to shoot those folks with the silly gun, it would be equally a warcrime to shoot them with any other gun. If it would jot be a warcrime to shoot them with any other gun, it doesn't magically become a warcrime because he used a ridiculous excuse of a shotgun.
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@michaelo5665 You are absolutely correct that a 2" shotgun is pretty.much worthless - as i stated repeatedly. But, just as using a hand grenade for room clearance (which, I agree with you is a far better idea than a 2" shotgun) is not automatically a war crime, his ASSUMPTION that a 2" shotgun would bring down war crimes charges on the user is silly. Its just an inefficient, somewhat directional, reusable handheld frag grenade, and no more subject to causing a war crime than the frag grenades with which these same troops also employ when the situation is that they have no significant concerns about innocent civilians being in the room being cleared. It was a silly statement by someone who apparently believes that the only CQB US troops do is in civilian occupied homes, and US troops are inclined to just fire wildly without any regard to collateral damage.
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There's a repeating grenade launcher concept I like better than either the China Lake (even a modernized one) or the M32. Company called Penn Arms has a six shot revolver GL that looks an awful lot like the M32, but fixes the M32's weakest point - instead of being spring driven (which slows reload and is a critical failure if you forget), it uses a pump action to advance the cylinder, much like cocking the hammer of an old single action revolver like the Colt 1873 - only the actual trigger is still a DA. Not sure about long term service durability of the PA offering, but the design looks like a winner and should be rather easily beefed up if it had to be ruggedized more.
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