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@tevarinvagabond1192 Here is another European who doesn’t know history, much less his own. The European cultures of antiquity were also no stranger to the ultimate religious expression of violence. The Greeks, Romans, Celts, and Germanic peoples all practiced ritual human sacrifice to a certain degree. In 216 BCE, after the Roman defeat to the Carthaginians at Cannae (believed to be the biggest defeat in the history of Rome), two Gauls and two Greek couples were buried under the Forum Boarium as a plea to the gods. The Romans did have traditions of ritual murder, which they did not consider human sacrifice. Hermaphroditic children were regularly drowned. Vestal virgins accused of being unchaste were buried alive in specially built chambers. Their chastity was thought to protect Rome, so even in times of peace, the unchaste virgins became victims of religious beliefs. The Romans also did not strictly consider gladiatorial combat to be religious sacrifice, despite the fact that death in the arena was believed to appease chthonic deities.
It seems the Romans practiced ritual sacrifice on many levels but suffered from an inability to see it the same way they saw ritual sacrifice in other cultures—a classic case of double standards. If you want me to move onto other ethnic Europeans.... just holla. 😉
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@beartheconfused6798 “So the Spanish won with ease.” Far from the claim you are making. I guess you never heard of the Sad night.... about "400 Spaniards, 4000 native allies and many horses [were killed] before reaching the mainland". also Muskets were unreliable due to it getting jammed a lot, aiming was not accurate and projectile didn’t go far, it was also slow to reload. Don’t forget when Ammo would get scarce and had to wait days, or even weeks to get more ammunition. Also Spaniards would swap their armour with Aztec armoury. MesoAmerica had iron works but they used Obsidian mostly and for a good reason.... Obsidian is a naturally-occurring glass, usually black and opaque. It's harder than steel. Since obsidian will fracture down to a single atom, it is claimed to have a cutting edge five hundred times sharper than the sharpest steel blade, and under a high magnification microscope an obsidian blade still appears smooth, whereas a steel blade has a saw like edge. was noted by the Spanish that the macuahuitl was so cleverly constructed that the blades could be neither pulled out nor broken. The macuahuitl was made with either a one-handed or two-handed grip, as well as in rectangular, ovoid, or pointed forms. Two-handed macuahuitl have been described as being "as tall as a man". The macuahuitl was sharp enough to decapitate a man. According to an account by Bernal Díaz del Castillo, one of Hernán Cortés’s conquistadors, it could even decapitate a horse.
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@jackmeoff9299 “The Romans were far more advanced and more civilised.” The Romans and Greeks are the most famous of the European civilizations of antiquity, and the reason for that is that they were more advanced than the rest of the European civilizations, at least in the majority of things. On the other side of the world, in Mesoamerica, the Maya existed much earlier than the Greeks and Romans, in the same period as these two, and outlived them. They have developed a civilization that was more advanced than the surrounding civilizations, and it was actually on about the same level of development as the Greeks and Romans.
If we take the accomplishments of the Maya on one side and the Greeks and Romans on another side, we will see that in most things they have about the same level of development, the Maya being more advanced in some aspects, while the Greeks and Romans in others, so they balance each other out. While at their peaks these civilizations seem to have reached about the same heights, it has to be mentioned that the Maya had a big portion of their achievements in a period where the Greeks and Romans were not existing as such, thus they developed certain things centuries and even millenniums earlier than their European counterparts.
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@pollypurree1834 The wheel can be seen on toys. Meanwhile.... Europeans didn’t invent the wheel. The wheel was invented in the 4th millennium BC in Lower Mesopotamia(modern-day Iraq). The oldest evidence of wheels in India, for example, dates from 4,500 years ago. The wheel did not reach Europe until 3,000 years ago. In the Old World, one of the last peoples to adopt the wheel were the Britons just 2,500 years ago. Like I told others before you... 6 cradles of civilisation and none trace back to Europe. Meanwhile Mexico and Peru are part of the cradle of civilisation club. Horses were reintroduced into the Americas. Archaeologists say horse domestication have begun in Kazakhstan about 5,500 years ago, about 1,000 years earlier than originally thought. Their findings also put horse domestication in Kazakhstan about 2,000 years earlier than that known to have existed in Europe. Fail.
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@Yarblocosifilitico Spanish soldiers used a harquebus, a sort of early musket. The harquebus was undeniably effective against any one opponent, but they are slow to load, heavy, and firing one is a complicated process involving the use of a wick which must be kept lit. See some contemporary native images they draw the conquerors as they saw them at the time of conquering. You’ll notice that guns and cannons are not depicted. They were useless in close encounters. It took too long to recharge them. Spanish soldiers often discarded their own, heavier plate armor, which was uncomfortable in the warmer, moist Mexican climate and prone to rust, in favor of indigenous armor which was lighter and comparatively maintenance-free. Ichcahuipilli were so effective at stopping arrows, darts, and even lead musket shot.
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@Yarblocosifilitico The question should be asked in reverse. What is there to support the idea that the Europeans would’ve developed complex technology without others considering gun powder/guns came from Asia. Handheld cannons weighing up to 15 kilos (33 lbs) - were used from the 14th century CE, introduced by Arab armies. Europeans were taken out of the Stone Age (Iron working was introduced to Europe in the late 11th century BC, from the Caucasus, and slowly spread northwards and westwards over the succeeding 500 years). I could go on. By the way you can’t invent electricity and electricity was experimented with among a lot of cultures and several cultures experimented with electricity long before Europeans, ie, A 2,200-year-old clay jar found near Baghdad, Iraq, has been described as the oldest known electric battery in existence. Since the discoveries have proved that the ancient Egyptians were able to really generate electricity. “Stay away from hospitals.” Laughing my ass off. The Moors founded modern hospitals in Spain, where they combined schools and libraries. 2600 BC: The oldest known prescriptions are recorded on Sumerian cuneiform clay tablets. The earliest documented general hospital was built in 805 in Baghdad, by the vizier to the caliph Harun al-Rashid. India has one of the world's oldest medical systems. It is known as Ayurvedic medicine (Ayurveda). The “father of medicine” of the west got his education in Egypt. Greeks visited Egypt as students to learn from Africans.
Plato studied in Egypt for 13 years.
Pythagoras studied Philosophy, Geometry and Medicine in Egypt for 22 years.
Thales, the first Greek philosopher studied in Egypt.
Hippocrates studied Medicine in Egypt for 7 years. Pythagoras studied Medicine in Egypt for 22 years.
"Pythagoras theorem" was used to build the pyramids in Egypt 1,000 years before Pythagoras was born.
Imhotep, an Egyptian Multi Genius was already the Father of Medicine 2,200 years before Hippocrates was born. The Moors’ scientific curiosity extended to flight and polymath. Ibn Firnas made the world’s first scientific attempt to fly in a controlled manner in 875 A.D. Historical archives suggest that his attempt worked, but his landing was somewhat less successful. Africans took to the skies some six centuries before the Italian Leonardo Da Vinci developed a hang glider. Like I told you previously... 6 cradles of civilisation and none trace back to Europe. When will you put that in your thick skull of yours?
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@bud389 Is that why Italy and Greece are part of 6 cradles of civilisation? Oh wait, they aren’t..... meanwhile Mexico is on the list. The Maya are not a single entity, a single community, or a single ethnic group. There are 21 different Mayan communities in Guatemala alone. The wheel was seen on toys, a wheel was useless considering the terrain. They also had alternative device that had the same functions of the wheel but Mayans chose to travel by boat more frequently. Europeans didn’t invent the wheel. The wheel was invented in the 4th millennium BC in Lower Mesopotamia(modern-day Iraq). The oldest evidence of wheels in India, for example, dates from 4,500 years ago. The wheel did not reach Europe until 3,000 years ago. In the Old World, one of the last peoples to adopt the wheel were the Britons just 2,500 years ago. Fail. It is always projection.
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