Comments by "SaBa" (@saba1030) on "RobWords"
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@huawafabe You're doing a comparison with high German, like this guy is doing as well.
If you take the Nedderdüütsch/Lower Saxon language, then you'll see, where parts of English are coming from.
Nedderdüütsch is still spoken here all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea), by about 4 million Germans.
E the, LS de, G der, die, das
E water, LS water, G Wasser
E school, LS school, G Schule
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich, du/Sie
E clock/ LS klock/ G Uhr
So "ten o'clock" would be "klock tein" or "zehn Uhr"
Ah, and the origin "bone" in old German is "Bein/Knochen", this is, why it's called "Eisbein".
Groetens ut Bremen
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@StoutProper Bremen here 😉
Lots of todays English language is based of the Lower Saxon and Frisian languages, when the Anglo-Saxons arrived in todays England. Of course other were addited to that, and about 1200 years change every language, but, there are still lots of words in common, like:
E school/LS school/ G Schule
E water/ LS water/ G Wasser
E clock/ LS klock/ G Uhr
E sister/LS soster/ G Schwester
E the/ LS de/ G der, die, das
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich, du/Sie
E ten/ LS tein/ G zehn
So "ten o'clock" = "klock tein" =
"zehn Uhr".
In case, you're Welsh?!
Thats also a Saxon word, and the meaning is "the other ones, the ones from abroad, the strangers".
When the Saxons arrived in todays England, they were calling all tribes, living to the west of their territories " de Welschen/ the Welsh".
Btw, if you're moving into another town/ village in the North of Germany, you're still "de Welschen".
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
Gruesse aus Bremen
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Yes.
Infact todays English is based on Lower Saxon language...not so much on todays high German !!
Lower-Saxon = English
he, se, mie, yi = he, she, me, you
dat/wat = that/what
de = the "d " = "th"
(no der, die, das)
us = us
open = open
water = water
school = school
broken = broken
clock tein = ten o'clock
Lower Saxon language gets pronounced "German style" but with a "rrr" rolling "r" 😊
About 4ish million Germans living along the coast lines of the North Sea and Baltic Sea are still speaking Lower-Saxon language..
Lower Saxon = Nedder Düütsch
Lower Saxony = Neddersassen
Todays English term "Welsh" origins from the ancient Saxons, which were living in todays England, they were calling ALL tribes living to the west of their territory (todays England) = de Welschen/the Welsh, and the meaning is "the other ones, the strangers, the ones from abroad".
The Dutch from the Holland regions and Germans speaking Lower-Saxon language can easily chat as well ...
Greetings from Bremen 👋
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@frankhooper7871 Northern German here. But not in the Nedderdüütsch/Lower Saxon language, there you still see:
E water/LS water/G Wasser
E father/LS fadder/G Vater
E sister/LS soster/ G Schwester
E one, two, three/LS een, twee, dree/G eins, zwei, drei
E clock/LS klock/G Uhr
E school/ LS school/ G Schule
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich, du/Sie
E the/LS de/ G der, die, das
The English origins partly from the Lower Saxon and Frisian languages, and not from the high German language family.
Ten o'clock = klock tein = zehn Uhr
Groetens ut Bremen 😉
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@Bjowolf2 You compare todays English language with todays high German, which doesn't work like that.
If you compare it with the Lower Saxon/ Nedderdüütsch and Frisian languages, you'll see, that there is much more in common.
Both languages are still spoken by about 4 million Germans all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea).
Like:
E that/ LS dat/ G das
E water/ LS water/ G Wasser
E school/ LS school/ G Schule
E the/ LS de/ G der, die, das
E sister/ LS soster/ G Schwester
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/mich/ du/Sie
E clock / LS klock/ G Uhr
E ten/ LS tein/ G zehn
Ten o'clock = klock tein = zehn Uhr
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
Grüße aus Bremen
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@Bjowolf2 All correct, but I was talking about the (still) visible simmularities between Lower Saxon language and English, as most people tend to compare "Hochdeutsch/High German" with English, and of course there the "roots" of both languages are not as visible.
Btw, I do speak the Lower Saxon language and (fun fact 😊) could have a nice chat with my Dutch collegue from Groningen, where they speak the "Groningen dialekt" (language!).
You shouldn't forget that languages don't stop at a "border", but "softly" mix, therefor at some parts there even exists a
"mix" of Frisian/Lower Saxon language and of course, like all languages they have their regional dialects on top of that, sometimes even from village to village (as in the old days without the todays infrastructure 20 km was a huge distance).
Btw, my London born spouse doesn't understand the Lower Saxon language 😄
Groetens ut Bremen to Danmark
Greetings to Denmark from Bremen 😉
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@moonhunter9993 Bitte schön, gern geschehen 😉
Kleiner Hinweis: Friesisch und Nedderdüütsch sind anerkannte Sprachen, und als "Minderheiten Sprachen geschützt und eingetragen als UNESCO Weltkulturerbe", und haben natürlich, wie alle Sprachen, auch ihre eigenen Dialekte.
Falls Interesse bestehen sollte: die Uni Göttingen bietet das Studienfach "Nedderdüütsche Spraak" an, und es gibt das "Institut für Niederdeutsche Sprache Bremen", dort kann man ebenfalls Infomaterial etc bekommen.
The funny thing is, that I thought, that "my" London born spouse would "sort of" easily understand the Lower Saxon/Nedderdüütsch language, when I'm talking with our neighbours, but it doesn't work like that, as the pronounciation is too different.
Forgot to say, there are "West Frisia/Holland/NL, East Frisia/Lower Saxony/Germany, Frisia/LS/Ger, and North Frisia/Schleswig-Holstein, Ger. They can talk to each other easily, but of course with their regional dialects.
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
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@moonhunter9993 Me too, as for some decades they were a bit "forgotten, not in favour", now they get supported again, also at school, and people, applying at public jobs, like at a bank, civil service or peoples homes, get prior employed, when able to speak "High German as well as Nedderdüütsch or Frisian".
Have a nice day 😉
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@satyr1349 Frisian and Lower Saxon/Nedderdüütsch language are partly the roots of English language, both languages are still spoken over here in Germany all along the coast lines (North Sea and Baltic Sea) by about 4 million Germans.
Like:
E the/ LS de/ G der, die, das
E water/ LS water/ G Wasser
E that/ LS dat/ G das
E school/ LS school/ G Schule
E he, she, me, you/ LS he, se, mie, yi/ G er, sie, mir/ mich, du/ Sie
E sister/ LS soster/ G Schwester
E ten/ LS tein/ G zehn
E clock/ LS klock/ G Uhr
So ten o'clock = klock tein = zehn Uhr.
Groetens ut Bremen
Greetings from Bremen
Grüße aus Bremen
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@diegomartinez7180 Yes.
It' origins on the ancient Germanic tribes, like the "Alemannen", todays federal state of Baden-Württemberg, bordering todays France...
Depending on which ancient Germanic tribes where located to their neighbours, todays Germany's neighbouring countries are calling Germany = Saxion, Prussian, etc = Germany is the country with the most different names 😂
Greetings from Deutschland 👋🍻
Btw, the term "deutsch" origins from the term "Thiutisk = us people", and then evolved over the last 2.000ish years to = tuisk, tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch" 😂
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The Romans called ALL tribes living to the right side of the river Rhine "Germanic", while those tribes which were living there didn't even call themselfes that.
The term "Deutsch" origins from the term "Thiutisk = us people", which evolved over the last 2.000ish years to "tysk, duits, dutch, teutsch, düütsch, deutsch ".
Germany is the country with the most different names, given by the neighbouring ancient tribes, which were living to the ancient "Germanic tribes....like the "Alemannen, todays federal state of Baden-Württemberg", bordering todays France....etc 😊
Greetings from Deutschland to Canada 😊👋
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@12tanuha21
The Romans left Britannia at 410 AD (written down by them).
The ancient Saxons arrived first at about 450 AD in todays England, at that time they were pagan, no church people had been around there in todays federal states of Lower Saxony, Bremen, Hamburg and partly Saxony-Anhalt (only the Saxony part).
Wilehad, a monk from Lindisfarne, was missioning the ancient Saxons on behalf of Charlemagne, while the ancient Saxons were still fighting against the ancient Franks/Charlemagne troops, Wilehad was the first Bishop of Bremen in 789 AD.
This is, why I wrote "Lower-Saxon language/then", but of course over here it's Low German /de Nedderdüütsche spraak ...
Hol di fuchtig met Groetens ut Bremen 😊
All the best with greetings from Bremen 🍻
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