Comments by "SaBa" (@saba1030) on "Truth To Power"
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Well, doesn't really come across like that, when "British people" are still demanding, to "join the EUs SM asap, a bit of FOM included"...
Right now the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership.
Joining the EUs SM/EEA/CU is available for EU and EFTA member states ONLY, not though for 3rd countries !!
According to article 126 of the EEA Agreement = SPECIFIES that membership is open to member states either of the EU and or EFTA member states ONLY.
EEA = EUs SM
NOT negotiatable !!
Norway and Iceland/EFTA, are stating since years, that they'll veto the UK joining EFTA, because they don't want a "trouble maker in their club".
Only option available for the UK is to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
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Some time ago Richard Tice stated "Brexit was about stripping down all regulations (protection of labourship, environment, banking etc) and to convert the NHS into a private health system US style ".
He was smiling when saying that.
The UK is loosing £100 billion per year since Brexit | Bloomberg
To join the EU again will go like that:
the UK/GB has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if none of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU again, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission) have to be fulfilled/implemented properly (if not done properly, joining process stops), which could take decades...
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EU spokesmen/negotiators recently.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
At the moment the UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria ...
Estimated time needed for joining the EU again, about 15ish years, as the EUs negotiators/spokesmen stated, they know due to experience of other countries joining process...
Notice: various countries with the status as a "candidate for EU membership" are stuck at exactly that, because they haven't implemented the 35 chapters... therefor are still no EU member states...
Just saying, because the UK still hasn't implemented properly neither the TCA nor the NIP/Windsor agreement it signed with the EU on free will.
Before the UK might join the EU again education is needed urgently about the EU, how it works and what it's for, that there is a Parliament with its democratic elected MEPs (with PR), working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens, otherwise the UKs electorate might vote "leave" again at the following GE, and the EU27 definetely wouldn't want a "Brexit 2.0" again.
That the EU27 are mainly a peace project, using trade for the benefits of its citizens.
Please look up for Robert Schuman, the "father of Europe ", born in Luxembourg (at that time German, later French), who's idea of a European Union started in the 1920s.
Robert Schuman was the first President of the European Parliament.
His book "for Europe " is available at the EUs Commission site book shop.
Please look up for Jean Monnet, the other "architect" of the EU.
More info about the EU is available at the EUs Commission site...
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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@Cider4144 Yes.
This is, what nobody over here at the Continent understands.. over here Brexit isn't even an issue anymore, only for those people, which have family and friends in the UK, like my London born spouse, who had to get dual citizenship because of Brexit, eventhough didn't have a say at the referendum/longer than 15 years abroad, but was trapped in this as well, like so many other...
So many of us over here are trying to inform as much as possible, did already the same BEFORE the referendum, EUs Commission installed a site extra for the Brits only BEFORE the referendum "all about EU - FAQs", one just had to type "EU" and it would have popped up, as it was set up on priority...
Unfortunately the Brits decided to look up about the EU AFTER the referendum, as stated by Google "the most asked question in the UK AFTER the referendum was = what is the EU?".
Since months the EUs Commission is stating clear messages towards the UK, and is doing so the whole time, but seems to never get heard once...
Like that there aren't "re-negotiations" on the table, but a REVIEW coming up to check the implementation of the TCA...
Phil, Max, etc, are still talking about "joining the EUs SM/EEA etc asap", telling them how it goes, that those "option" aren't available for 3rd countries, never get a response...
The UKs electorate have to sort their internal issues ASAP, media included, ..
And yes, I'm afraid, that neither you nor my London born spouse and I will see the UK be back in the EU27 in our life time...
I wish you all the best with greetings from Bremen 🍻 👋
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@Huw Zebediah Thomas
....and as stated by Barnier "the EUs doors are always open for the UK....... UNDER THE KNOWN CONDITIONS", which is THAT part of the sentence, which seems to "get forgotten"....
To join the EU again will go like that:
the UK has to apply for EU membership by fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission), if none of the EU27 member states vetos the UK/GB joining the EU again, only then the UK/GB would receive the status as a "candidate for EU membership", and then the 35 chapters (which would be monitored by the EUs Commission)have to be fulfilled/implemented properly, which could take decades.
No exceptions, no cherry picking, no fast track, no opt outs, as stated by various EU spokesmen recently.
It's mandatory for ALL NEW EU member states, to join the Schengen area and adapt the €/Euro, as soon as the new EU member state has a stabile enough economy.
About the topic of this vlog: it's not even on the table over here in the EU, as a French-German think tank had a "brainstorming" about that subject only, but NOTHING official...
Btw, at the moment the UK is moving away from fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria....
Estimated time for "joining the EU" about 15ish years, including the timespan needed for fulfilling the Copenhagen Criteria BEFORE a country can apply for EU membership... stated by EUs spokesmen and negotiators.... known due to EUs experience from other EU membership applicants...
Greetings from the EU27 😊
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Correct. But you were member in a union/EU, with 450 million citizens/potential customers...frictionless, tarrif free...
Btw, the EU27 were in negotiations with the USA for four years, in the end the EUs negotiators stopped all negotiations, because the USA were demanding issues like "chloride chicken, hormon boosted beef, gen manipulated food/unmarked = all not allowed/wanted in the EUs SM, and those private arbitration courts, where any US company could claim billions of € as "compensation" from any EU member state/the EUs Commission etc, because of "loss of profit", in case the EU27 might change laws/rules/standards in the future... even if the product of that US company didn't even exis at that time.....THAT would have opened US companies doors to endless claimings for billions of compensation......
Greetings from the EU27 🖐
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"...the EU27 were gutted when we left the block...."
Errr...NO.
Everything was sorted and got prepared for Brexit the day AFTER the referendum happened...the EU27 were ready the day Brexit happened !!
And those € 2,33 per month/head of us 450ish million EU citizens to "compensate" the loss of the UKs EU membership fee is affordable...
As the UK never paid its full membership fee due to the "Brit bargain", infact it were about one third of it only, the permanent demands of opt outs etc, it's recognisable, that since the UK left the EU27, the EUs member states are working together much smoother and faster..
Apart from, that the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment.
Estimated time needed for joining the EU are minimum 15+ years AFTER fullfilling the Copenhagen Criteria FIRST.
Every EU member state can leave the EU27 on its own free will, but it's up to the EU27 only, to decide, which country can join the EU and when.
Right now there are various EUs member states, which wouldn't even take UKs application form for EU membership.
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