Comments by "Bell UH1H Huey" (@belluh-1huey102) on "GDF"
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@blacktulip8990 the study from the 1 million deaths was from a flawed survey by Opinion Research Business, the reason why it is flawed is if you read the peer review paper, "Conflict Deaths in Iraq: A Methodological Critique of the ORB Survey Estimate," concluded that the concludes that the ORB poll is "too flawed, exaggerated and ill-founded to contribute to discussion of the human costs of the Iraq war." The more reliable Iraq Body Count Project utilized documented deaths instead of just estimation, and if you know how to do research and math, that documentation is mostly more accurate than estimation. Which puts the death toll at 183k to 205k civilians from 2003 to 2019. To add to this, they even provided a graph for us to look at and when you look at the peak civilian casualties during the Iraq War, that most civilian deaths were from the Iraqi Civil War 2006 to 2008. Casualties after the Civil War were at a all time low from 2009 to 2011. But, when the U.S. left Iraq in 2011, civilian casualties rose significantly past the amount during the invasion of Iraq in 2014. When the U.S. entered into Iraq again around late 2014, civilian casualties lowered. So tell me, what probably killed more? U.S. warcrimes or Iraqi warcrimes? Remember, more casualties happened due to Iraqi futile conflict over which version of Islam was right.
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@maksimoltu8236 Planes and missiles are accurate, artillery isn't, not to mention Russia caused a lot of civilian casualties in Syria, not to mention Russia has never reached the counter insurgency phase. Also looking at battle damage in Ukraine, the bombs and shells are scattered over a large area, like you can see crater holes landing far off target. Most civilians in Iraq died during the occupational phase. You see, when in a insurgency, you cannot prep the battlefield, but in an invasion you can warn people to get out of the way. Wait, I am looking at the civ deaths for Operation Phantom Fury which is 800 according to the red cross and 1.3k civilian deaths in the Siege of Mariupol according to the UN, Russia says it's 3000. Both of which were major battles. There is something funny about the Iraq War, especially in the Battle of Baghdad 2003, no civilian casualties reported weirdly, not to mention during the battle the U.S. dropped leaflets to tell civlians to stay in their homes or evacuate. This is one of many cases where the U.S. warns civilians in Iraq. There is also another thing to factor, secterian violence in Iraq, Iraqis killed eachother frequently because of Shia Sunni relations which led to a civil war in Iraq during 2006-2008, which also matches up with the huge spike in civil casualties. Now let's factor the Syrian Civil War, according to the UN 306,887 died in the conflict from 2012-2022 , now in Iraq according to the Iraq Body Count Project 2003-2019, around 205,785 civilians died. Boy oh boy, Russian support led to more civilians dying in a decade than U.S. "unrestricted and un warned bombing" and a whole bunch of other stuff in 20 years.
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@HICHAM_CHD Fun fact, under Saddam, he exasperated the issue of secularism and started great fear mongering of Shias in Iraq when Iran underwent a revolution, the Shia uprising in Iraq, also known as the "1979–1980 Shia uprising in Iraq," was the growth of the Shia community Iraq during the Iranian revolution. The uprising stopped with the April 1980 arrest of the leader of Shia Iraqis, Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr and his subsequent execution. So, idk what Middle Eastern pot you smoking to not notice these things happening. Not to mention, Al Qaeda was in Iraq, regardless of it supporting Saddam or not. Then there is this relatively unknown event that happened in the 2010s, known as the Arab Spring, which was a series of anti-government protests, uprisings and armed rebellions that spread across much of the Arab world in the early 2010s. It began in Tunisia in response to corruption and economic stagnation, which soon fled over to Iraq, which is why we have ISIS. What you are saying completely ignores the Arab spring, and a person who does not have knowledge of this event, does not know what they are talking about. " I ask myself every time why after 2003 they were so many problems in iraq" Iraqis squabbling with each other till a new sense of national unity rose against the Islamic state. The successor to Al Sadr is a hero and a smart man, for doing the smart thing of changing the country for the better by slowly taking over the Iraqi parliament.
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