Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

  1. The Allies deemed the Breda 37, Breda 38 and Breda 20/65 machineguns to be "excellent".
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  2. To switch the bolt of the rifle (the Carcano bolt is a single piece that came out simply pulling the trigger) takes actually less time than to charge a live round and a grenade in the launcher.
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  3. 1911 design is pickier than people tend to think of. Even in .45 as long as tolerancies start to reach "modern day handguns" level, the design starts to became less reliable with some kind of ammunition. Fine-tuning it for 10mm is even harder.
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  4. Tight tolerances IS a thing. A thing that made several weapon designs VERY sensible to dirt.
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  5. +Jon-Paul Filkins It's the contrary. They didn't want a detachable magazine from the start. Cause at that time it was really difficult to manufacture a detachable magazine that was, at the same time, so well and consistently built to not have feeding issues, and so cheap to be discarded on the field. The problem was real, so much that the Brits too designed a tilting magazine for the BREN. In the end they didn't adopt it, but it's reloading was even more awkward than that of the Breda 30.
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  6. ***** Unfortunately there is an attitude between commentators of military equipements, being them "experts" or not, that could be described as "if there is something different to what we are used to, then there has to be something wrong in it". That "wrong" was rapidly "theoretically" identified, and then passed from a commentator to another as a "fact". An example is the manlicher clip fed system for rifles. Almost every description of it's efficiency contains a statement like "the bottom opening for the discharge of the spent clips was prone to let debris and dirt enter in the mechanism". Unfortunately, the only real-life comparative study of the efficiency of this system VS the closed magazine (the observations of Vladimir Grigoryevich Fyodorov, the designer of the Fedorov Automat, on the battlefields of the Russo-Japanese War), showed the exact opposite. On the winter battelfields, frozen mud and snow rapidly get stuck into the magazines of the Moisin Nagant, quickly rendering them single shooters, while the passage of the clips kept the action of the Steyr Manlicher clean and functional as repeaters. All in all the Chauchat was an exceptional design. A design that permitted to produce 262,000 of them during the war in a partly invaded country, VS only 50.000 Lewis Gun produced in both UK and US. As a single soldier, maybe I would prefer to have a Lewis Gun in my hands, but as an army (and as a soldier too) I would greatly prefer to have five times more LMGs on the frontline.
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  7. The purpose of an SMG was to have portable automatic fire, a full sized rifle didn't have it.
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  8. If you watch a video of the shooting of a Carcano, you can see that the aiming eye is way back, and the thumb had to be below the receiver already at the moment of shooting. However to have that recoiling mass close to the head, and to adapt the position of the trigger hand, is surely discomfortable, and is surely part of the reason the conversion wasn't adopted.
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  9.  @robosoldier11  The analysis is of 1912. Then WWI happened (and semiautos like the Mondragon and the Remington Model 8) didn't impress there, unfit to trench warfare, they were relegated to the balloons of the artillery observers). However, this analysis, and the observations made during the war, led to the Terni 1921 prototype, already in an intermediate cartridge (7.35X32mm), that had been long evaluated. Then it was decided to not go with the intermediate cartridge and run a contest for a semiauto in 6.5X52 Carcano (the one won by the Scotti Model X). Then evaluations made on the Scotti in Etiopia, and the decision to switch to 7.35X51 cartridge anyway led to a new contest, that didn't end due to WWII.
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  10.  Superdude70  You are welcome!
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  11. .32 ACP was quite popular and considered a perfectly viable self defence round in much of Europe in the '70s.
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  12. @The Entangled Trap The FAL held its own against the AK47 countless times. Besides, as it's explained in the video, the FAL didn't born in a full blown caliber. Having already adopted the FAL, even had they later recognized the 7.62 NATO to be such a issue, they would have probably simply adopted a FAL in an intermediate caliber rather than a completely different design.
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  13.  @chris101ward  The "heat extraction thru metal cases" had ALWAYS only meant "in respect to caseless ammos". Caseless ammos are ineherently hotter than brass ammos, because the burning powder is in direct contact with the chamber. Here's the opposite. Plastic, that's an insulator shields the chamber from the heat of the burning powder MUCH better than brass, that's one of the best heat conductors existing. Heat remains in gasses (that expand more, that's why they need less powder for the same muzzle speed) and it's expelled from the barrel with them, because also gasses are very bad at heat transfer. Plastic cased ammos actually heat up the weapons MUCH LESS than brass ammos.
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  14. It's what SIG wants people to believe. To make them accept that they already won, hoping that the hype becomes reality without questions made. In reality, to me, it's the less likely to be accepted. It's enough to see the clips of it fired to see that it kicks like a mule, (the Textron is better, the GD MUCH better) making impossilbe to fire it in full auto from the shoulder with some pretense to hit the intended target. Moreover, the bi-metal cartridges have no advantages over the existing ones, they are as heavy, and even more expensive to make.
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  15. Infact. Reloading is a thing with brass ammos only because brass cases are expensive. An already fired, dirty and still with the spent primer brass .223 case is around 0.12$, one cleaned and unprimed 0.2$ and one pristine around 0.4$. If a new, unprimed plastic case will be around 0.1$, what will be the point in reloading?
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  16. Well, from a modern day point of view, a 9mm Glisenti is a 9mm Para that uses a 123-125grs truncated cone bullet and is slightly subsonic off the shelf, so, a round with the same charateristics, IN THEORY, should work. And infact, the Glisenti loads are similar to some load that reloaders comes up with when they want to make 9mm Para subsonic ammos with 123-125 grs bullets. BUT that's not granted. Since bullet weight and speed are not all. Weapons tend to function better with the loads they were designed for also in terms of burning speed of the powder, primer charateristics and so on. So, is better to use loads that had been studied for 9mm Glisenti weapons. http://www.grurifrasca.net/Sito/Ricarica/pistole/9glisenti.html
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  17. +Echin0idea Even the trigger mechanism is overengineered. There is no need to make a springloaded sear attached to the bolt and a spring loaded trigger, when all you need is a dent in the bolt where the sear, directly attached to the trigger, operates.
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  18. The first samples were real rifles, in 6mm Flobert or .22 Short. Then it was deemed too dangerous, and they were made blanks, but the barrles were probably never changed.
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  19. The italian three grades were "Figli della Lupa" (sons of the she-wolf), 6-8 years old, "Balilla" 9-14 years old, and "avanguardista" (vanguard) 15-18 years old.
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  20. The first samples were real rifles, in 6mm Flobert or .22 Short. Then it was deemed too dangerous, and they were made blanks.
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  21. There are some rotating barrel delayed blowback (Savage 1907 and derivates and the French MAB PA-15)
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  22. It isn't infact. Both works with the principle of accelerating the bolt carrier rearward at a much greater velocity than the bolt head, so, in practice, exchanging the mass of the bolt required to keep the action closed in a simple blowback design, with the accelerated speed of a part of it, according to the cinetic energy formula. The method to achieve this (levers, rollers or inclined surfaces) isn't so important.
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  23. The MAS 49/56 semiauto and the MAT 49 SMG.
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  24. Never let anyone hear you while you re firing a mortar.
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  25.  @keyhole9601  Breda is a little different, since it's not an old family gun company, but a steelwork company that produces weapons too.
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  26.  @Never_heart  During WWII the Italians used 6.5 ammos, that didn't even use the same propellant of the 7.35 that supposedly had reliability issues (and that for some reason alredy became "super unreliable").
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  27. The Finns actually worsened the sights, asking for them to be zeroed at 100m instead of 200m before the rifles being delivered. That way they were practicaly useless past 150m, well into combat distance.
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  28.  @Jay22222  You mentioned the fixed sight being a problem, but a fixed sight 0 to 300m became pretty common after the war. It was considered to be a pretty good solution. A 7.35 M38 sighted at 200m had a maximum elevation of the bullet of 3.15" at 100m and a drop of 4.55" at 250m.
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  29.  @SidneyBroadshead  The bullet was not unstable in flight and didn't have a wandering zero. Any spitzer bullet has the center of gravity displaced towards the back of the bullet, but that doesn't make it unaccurate. The the aluminium tipped bullet was designed to be even more unstable, and so tumble more easily INTO THE BODY, not in flight. The Brits used the same trick in the .303 Ball MKVII, adopted in 1910, that served as standard issued cartridge through two World Wars, the Korean War and countless other smaller confrontations until the end of military use of the .303 British. Actually the Ball MKVII had a higher percentage of the bullet made out of aluminium, so was even more unstable, and none ever noticed it having a wandering zero. Today plastic tipped bullets are normally used for hunting. The aluminium tipped bullet was also lighter than the original 6.5, so to have a faster muzzle velocity, and so a flatter trajectory in the first 300m of flight, so making the fixed 200m sight more useful.
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  30. Never. They had been used by the Police shooting team until the '60s. With good results in international competitions.
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  31. The problem was to use 7.62 NATO, for infantry rifle in the most efficient and cost-effective way. The result was a modification of the M1 Garand that, other than being a semiauto only rifle (like the FAL, the M14 and the G3 were), was a real grenade launcher (grenade sights, gas cutoff and winter trigger) and a real "emergency LMG" (tri-compensator and bipod) for the same weight and at a fraction of the cost of other battle rifles.
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  32. The doctrine of employ was that you didn't rely on ONE rifle for sustained automatic fire. Any rifleman, if he was in the right spot, could act as a LMG gunner and cover the others for brief time, then someone else would have covered him.
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  33. The FG-42 is more controllable, thanks to the inline stock. But it's also more expensive to build and less durable.
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  34. It's a muzzle-brake/compensator and a grenade launcher and a flash hider, hence the name tri-compensator.
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  35. It's a grenade sight, when lifted up, it also acts as gas-cutoff. The rifle could shoot Energa and Super-Energa grenades. The original sling acts as a secondary grenade sight when the butt of the rifle is on the ground, the number of studs over the ground is the range in hundreds of meters.
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  36. Winchester tried, during the war, to convert M1 in 30-06. For that reason, they tried to use the BAR magazines, that are not very good, and work on the BAR thanks to the inertia of the heavy bolt. Also they tried to retain the bent op-rod of the M1 Garand, that ease extraction in semiauto, but interfere with the burst in full auto.
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  37.  @TheGM-20XX  What units?
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  38.  @TheGM-20XX  The Italian Army massively sold it and its parts on the surplus market. Some sample is still in service for guard-parade, but it's no more in active service.
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  39. It remained at the base of the barrel, and was pushed forward when the new cartridge was inserted, so sitting ahead of the new bullet, to be ejected when it was fired.
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  40. +burger1690 Cause the mistake was not in the rifle, but in the cartridge. It was clear from the start (and I mean the start, from the Federov Avtomat, if not from the Cei Rigotti) that "select fire", in a weapon with the weight of a rifle, required an intermediate round to make the burst controllable. For that reason the British, after the war, proposed the 7mm British as the universal NATO cartridge. But the US Army didn't accept a round less powerful then the 30-06, so the 7.62X51 was adopted instead. The British, discouraged, adopted the FAL in semiauto only, cause, with the 7.62X51, the possibility to control the burst was only theoretical. The Italians made the BM59, with a complex muzzle brake and an integral bipod, to make it's burst at least a bit controllable, and the US replaced the M14 as soon as they realized that the guy with the M14 was outgunned by the guy with the AK-47.
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  41. It has to be noted that the BM59 was made using that same Winchester tooling (Beretta inherited them after the war) that made those M1s and their modifications. However, the designer of the BM59, Domenico Salza, "made it right", solving all the problems of the conversion, even the controllability of the burst, in few months.
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  42.  @andrewp8284  "mortella" is actually a gergal name of the myrtle in Italian, so "punta delle mortelle", where the original fort was located is "myrtle point".
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  43.  @hendriktonisson2915  Number of pieces involved has little to do with precision machining. The AR18 had been specifically designed to be a cheap stamped steel rifle easy to produce even in low-tech facilities.
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  44.  @hendriktonisson2915  Sterling Armament Company was already in the way of going bankrupt in 1985, a thing it did in 1988, and the things it produced in the previous decades really didn't require any precision machining.
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  45. Why? The clones hardly prevent Beretta from selling any gun (they are aimed to a lower market segment), while the existence of the clones testifies of the soundness of the design.
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  46. Probably post-war production regularly purchased.
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  47. You messed up the chronology. Italy signed an armistice. After italy signed an armistice, the Germans occupied as much Italian territory as they could, and seized Italian army's equipment. Then, since the Germans had became an occupation army, Italy declared war to Germany. Italian armistice is Sept. 8 1943. Italian war declaration to Germany is Oct. 13 1943. More than a month later.
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  48. No. The last Carcano using progressive rifling was the 91/28 TS carbine.
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  49. BNP "Banco Nazionale di Prova" (National proofhouse), TNI "Terni" (Arsenal of Terni).
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  50. the "exposed trigger bar" is actually a disconnector. It disconnects the trigger from the hammer if the slide is not in full battery. So it's a safety feature that prevents out of battery firing. You can't fire the gun touching it.
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