Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Llama M82: Gabilondo Copies the Beretta (But More Complicated)" video.

  1. If you see a Glock clone you say it's a Glock clone. Don't call it a 1911 clone because they use the same Browning tilting barrel system.
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  2.  @quentinmichel7581  And what does it matter if there had been some gun in the middle? Glock is still a Browning tilting barrel system like that of the 1911. And kind of no matter how you wrap it, the barrel & locking block system setup ... you lay the two systems side-by-side on the table and who's the daddy is without question. It's the 1911 all day long. BTW, Muser patented the tilting locking block later used by Walther, and the first commercial (and even quite successful) double action semi-auto pistol had been the Wiener Waffenfabrik “Little Tom”.
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  3.  @quentinmichel7581  And so? What does it changes if a gun had been adopted for a service or not? Does it change the gun in some way? And didn't Browning also kind of pioneer the tilting barrel semiautomatic Service pistol as well?
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  4.  @quentinmichel7581  The slotted cam is only a simplification. It' doesnt' change the operating system. Beretta simplified too. See the complex shape of the barrel of the P-38, to house the tilting block, in respect to that of the Beretta.
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  5.  @quentinmichel7581  Not to be contentious, but what matters technically if a gun had been adopted by someone or not? All the military adopted firearms are better in those "certain standards/performance parameters" than all the not military ones? There had never been a lemon adopted by someone? There had never been a good not-adopted-by-anyone firearm? And when exactly did we start to talk about "certain standards/performance parameters" at all? You were talking about "copying" and nothing else. BTW the Walther PP had not been developed as a military gun, but a Police one (PP, Pistole Polizei), in .32 ACP, like the Little Tom was available in .25 ACP and .32 ACP. It ended up serving in the Wermacht like the SAO Mauser, Sauer, and literally EVERYTHING the Germans managed to put their hands on, because the breechlock P-38 was a too complex gun to mass produce when workers had more important things to do. There is nothing in his construction specifically made for military use, and is actually a more picky gun than many others, even for '30s standards.
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  6. beretta slides are not likely to crack.
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  7. Fuego is fire. Llama is flame. Is also the third person present of "llamar" (to call).
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  8. It's like saying a Glock is a clone of a 1911.
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  9.  @johnmosesbrowning1855  Whalter P38 that used a Mauser patent.
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  10.  @gustavmeyrink_2.0  Beretta M1951 is cooler than them all.
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  11. The Beretta is not a copy of a P-38 more than a Glock is a copy of a 1911.
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