Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "TLDR News EU"
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@BlindManInsane Nazi's aren't Russians, but this specific instance of aggressive territorial expansion is like that Nazi strategy of exploiting Western weakness for power, yes.
Western powers didn't come close, it's Russian neighbors that wanted to join NATO, and only because they were terrified, rightly so, of Russia fucking them again. In 2014 when this whole crisis began there were barely any NATO forces in Eastern Europe at all, you propagandist. NATO had made ZERO moves to harm Russia until AFTER Russia attacked Ukraine.
"Europe needs to improve relations with russia and strive for cease fire in Ukraine" AFTER Russia took over Ukrainian territory??? It's like asking a battered wife to return to their abusive husband, Jesus Christ. Why the hell should Ukraine trust a single word from Russia after their "brothers" attacked them and supported separatists in their lands, huh? It was Russia that destroyed Ukraine's positive image of them, not the West. And everything you suggested involves bending over for Russia with zero consequences for their actions.
Imagine my shock.
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@paulatreides7532 If NATO said both Ukraine and Georgia would be NATO members, why aren't they? You unintentionally proved that you're full of it. NATO saying they believe that x nations will be a part of it doesn't mean it will be. In fact, looking it up, they said that "one day" they can apply and gain entry, meaning the offer is open. That should be obvious, but apparently you need things spelled out for you.
It's funny how anything Putinbots don't like suddenly become CIA ops. Did the CIA cause you to stub your toe too? Maybe the CIA is the one bombing Kharkiv as we speak and they're just blaming Russia for it? It's pathetic dude; you can't just blame the CIA for everything. Fact is that protests happened, Yanukovych was kicked out by his own Parliament for new elections in response, then Russia invaded and destroyed any trust between Ukraine and Russia. Now Russia denies Ukraine's right to exist; which is literal Nazi Germany all over again.
LOL. Imagine taking Imperial Japan's logic as fact when we know for a fact that they just wanted their own imperialist power base in East Asia. I can see now that you're just a fascist masquerading as an anti-imperialist. You're A-OK with mass murder and conquest as long as its "anti-Western". Pathetic.
Psht, I know all about US actions across the century. Really doesn't change the fact that everyone engages in it and you are using the US as a convenient scapegoat to delegitimize anything your favorite dictator of the week has done. If people are upset because they're starving, they're suddenly a "CIA inspired OP" and now the dictator has the right to murder them all. We all know what you truly are, fascist bootlickers are all the same.
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@lazyupload "Toyed" with Ukraine in reality just being regular interaction with another nation-state, I presume? I don't subscribe to the idea of power politics, and believe even great powers, including the US, must not play such games of spheres of influence.
Fact is that Ukraine wanted to join NATO after 2014's invasion. Not before. Betraying the Ukrainians to Russia by vowing that they'd never join NATO is as reprehensible as the Munich Conference, though I understand why a geopolitical "realist" would suggest that. I'm a liberal, and I would never agree to such a thing. But I also wouldn't place more troops in Poland either, unless Russia keeps antagonizing the region, which is has recently.
The "US empire" was just minding its own business before this crisis blew up. Putin has been planning this for a while, obviously trying to get concessions; you're acting like the US instigated this crisis to force Putin into unfavorable geopolitics. I think that's way too clever for the US, personally.
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@madselmvig1457 NATO wasn't involved in any war in the ME barring Afghanistan, no. This is a common and frankly ignorant opinion because people on the internet are stupid.
Individual countries in NATO got involved, 100%, but NATO itself had nothing to do with anything barring countries within NATO using it to organize. If NATO got involved, then France would literally have no choice but to join in, and the ones France did join were either in French interests (Syria) or was genuinely NATO (Afghanistan).
Haiti was a UN mission that only had the US, Poland, and Lebanon involved. Lebanon had the US, UK, France, and Italy I think; but no, that was not NATO either. NATO command had no say in any of these conflicts.
Again, Trump never refused Article 5, and if you begin taking him at his word with everything, then you'll believe a lot of stupid stuff. And unlike you, every opinion based on US willingness to protect an ally was extremely high. Both in the US, and in US allies, so idk why you're acting like this is a common opinion. Especially with US troops literally there acting like a human shield.
Hey man, "doing business" is perfectly fine, but when that business starts to look a lot like helping them at the expense of an ally; then yeah your allies are gonna start abandoning you.
But yeah, you seriously need to learn the difference between NATO itself getting involved (Afghanistan) and countries in NATO getting involved.
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