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  10.  @quangduongsong373  You can make your point without insult. But this does show how you also are affected by your architectural education, of which arrogance is an important part. I know it. We've all been there and I have the advantage of having been able to admit what was happeneing to me and to stand up for myself. That plus maybe 30 years more than you of talking about it. Please try to reflect on what you are being moulded to become (even inwardly without admitting it to anyone). You are not being taught how to provide beautiful towns for your fellow countrymen, but to play a game that only architects are allowed to play. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to inflict what they do on the world. Traditional architectures are everything between vernacualr and classicism. In China you have chinese architecture which is very rich and very ecological. It is the expression of a system developed to assemble natural and locally produced materials in order to shelter people from the elements wherever they are in the world. This has been taken from everone by a self appointed pseudo-elite. In the 1920's in Europe a handful of architects, interested mainly in their own promotion, declared that these century long local vocabulaires and thousands of years of human intelligence were no longer valid and that architects were no longer allowed to use them. That they were going to give us an new aesthetic. 100 years later we see that towns and villages all over the world have been destroyed by these declarations and what they gave us was a total failure. Despite this, schools of architecture continue to forbid you to even think of using your rich herritage to build, repair and extend what is left of the wonderful heritage we all have. And you let yourself be bullied by these people. Me not. Modernism is superior to nothing. It is a failure and its buildings often don't last more that 10 years before they have to be demolished. Architects cannot learn from their experiments the same way as others do. They continue their destructive path despite the evidence and the fact that tpopulations are at last beginning to organise themselves against them. So you. I can tell you you are wrong. If you ever take the trouble to look and read you'll realise it yourself, and you might see how joyful it is doing what is right and perpetuations vour heritage.
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  18.  @transientbeing1887  I did of course read it all if you had the patience to read it all. Too long a discussion for this type of list though. This video is the feed back from consumers of architecture. I looked at it again after reading your piece. The act that architects refuse to take heed is just what the video is about. Just a few points You might be surprtised the see, if you look again at the video, that there isn't a single parking lot in it. That's just the impression you get from what is shown. Almost all the stars were shown along with their reference buildings. Koolhasas,. Foster, Hadid, Nouvel etc. (mins. 2.24, 4.20, 6.30,7.09, 11,13 12.29) Why do architects have to follow blindly a failed agenda, 100 years later, despite all the evidence and the protests of those who have to live with their little agenda?. Why is the modern style an absolut must and the rest is not? The Venice Charter was also written in the 1960s. The bit about new interventions into the existing having to be different came from the slanted english translation of the french original. This shows the zeitgeist at the time. Look again at the conclusionfrom minute 11.57 and ask yourself if he has a point or not. Bauhaus was a dismal failure. It was only open for 13 years and architecture courses were only availbale for the last 5. It was closed several times and the last time by Mies. Philip Johnson admired everything German at the time (including its army) and brought the Bauhaus teachers to the US and managed to get them all important posts in schools of architectecture where the re-wrote the syllabuses and imposed modernism that wasn't acceptable in Europe. One writer (wife of a former Bauhaus teacher) said maodern architecture was Hitler's revenge. Later Johnson regretted having help modernism to establish in the world and said so. Read “Making Dystopia“ by James Stevens Curl for full information.
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  19.  @transientbeing1887  I'll have to be brief as I have a lot to do, and notably on a site for a developer. Developers didn't invent modernism. They like it because they think it's cheaper than traditional architecture, which it is not. They are only interested in spending the least amount and selling for the most. If you make the argument that classical (I'm not talking about stone and classical columns - Look at the faubourg architecture of Paris for example. Side streets just off the boulevards that predate Haussmann) it can be cheaper and that people buying like it better he'll have no problem. The whole of Poundbury and Cayala are being built by developers to make money, and the downturn in the property market in England never affected building or selling in Poundbury. So it is basically architets past and present that have influenced developers. Foster & Partners are Pritzker Prize winners, modern heroes to which nearly all students aspire. Him or Gehry, or Hadid or Koolhas etc. The fact that you single him out doesn't make any of the others any better, but they're all hailed as gods and given as examples of excellence. If you ever get the chance to watch “The Competition“ please do so, and if you could see the rubbish debates among architects after you might be able to admit that architects as a whole are totally uncapable of seeing the reality of starchitects and the whole system. For bullying you can have look online. Ill treatment might be a better word. There is an infamous film of a crit where Peter Eisenmann destroys a poor girl in a crit. He doesn't even address her directly. I myself saw it at school, as did my daughter and I've spoken to many young architects that have experienced the same. It's the very nature of the crit system. As for modernism. You must produce modernist projects at school (almost all schools) if you don't what to fail. Teachers take the same stance as yourself, that traditional today is only a gimmick and real architecture is modernist. In the past examples are Quinlan Terry, who when he qualified went to burnt his work on the steps of the AA. Robert Adam was failed in his final year and was able to be retreived by an external examiner. (Both are Dreihaus Prize winners) Even Francis Terry (son of Quinlan) had to do moderrnism to get through school. My daughter was delighted when told at school that nothing was off limits and that there weren't any wrong answers. When she made her first design for simple brick houses as an infill project she was told “.... but not like this...“ Traditional was off bounds. I had to produce modernism at school, and I can go on like this. I disagree with your first 3 conclusions, and on the last one I would say that even those at the bottom of the class are considered as part of a class of artistic elite that mere mortals just can't understand. Tone of voice here is calm (just in case the wording might not sound that way)
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  20.  @svart-rav8072  Thank you svart. Modernism is a deliberate break with past traditions as with industrialization some architects (those that got all the publicity, but a small number) thought they aere superior to their predescessors as they had modern techniques and machines, and that industry was going to solve all our problems and give us a brighter future. Le Corbusier wrote that architects should refuse the past and that all the principles will be revised. Also the moden movement was also called the international style. The same building could be built in Norway, Borneo, Brasil and Congo using the same modern mateirals. Therefore no-one needed learn their local architectectures, techniques and specifities. The fact that urbanization was rampant, and don't forget the rebuilding after the second world war, particularly in Europe, could ahve been handled much differently. Prefabricated concrete with no decoration (they still called it architecture, but it wasn't) suited those who wanted to build as quickly and cheaply as possible. They accompained it with a modernist doiscourse and it became just the nor. $Compare that to the recent recontruction of Leipzig, or other places at the time, like Echternach in Luxembourg, where tradesmen rebuilt in a similar manner to what had been destroyed. Corbusier and Mies were villains interested mainly in thier own promotions. Corb wanted to demolish half of Paris (you might think it was just a project, but that's exactly what he tried to do) and his secretaty would live on one side of Paris and he on the other, so that he could drive to meet her for work , thus creating employment in the petrol industry and wearing down tyres that had to be replaced by the tyre industry. Totally misguided as he was on many fronts. They decided architecture would become this and it did, but we know today it wasn't a good idea. Modern materials were experimantal, and didn't work for decades. Houses leaked, oveheated in the summer, were freezing in the winter and cracked due to thermal movement. Instead of going back to using materials that we know last for thousands of years they couldn't admit they were wrons and continued adding complexities to try to solve their problems, and we're still doing that to the presnt day, even though we know the whole idea of impermeable facades is wrong. It was part of the midset at the time as you say, but managed to impose itself through manipulation and censuring architects that didn't agree with them in the architecrtural press. When they got a hold of architectural education in the US there was no going back. Until recently. Why can we not look back? Should we try again and again to re-invent architectecture? They've been messing with peoples towns and cities for a century, and people are at last beginning to cry out for change. Change might mean looking at where it all went wrong and starting from there. Trying to imagine where we would be today if thousands of years of tradition hadn't been scrapped. We can use many of what has been good over the past 100 years, but the architecural expression is an insult to our fellow citizens. Technology is useful. We can use it to share ideas for example, but it shoudl be a tool, not an end, and it isn't housing and doens't need to find an expression in architecture at the expense of the architectures that are par of our dna. You say architecture should be novel and creative. I disagree. That is the little elitist game I was talking about for architects by architects. People are now saying stop, and build uns beautiful buildings and towns we can live happily in. Modern comes from the french to be fashionable. Classical is always valid. But I'm not asking people to put columns everywhere. We all have great examples of local architecture in our towns. Thoise are the models. Not Nouvel, Hadid, Mies. Read with an open mind. Research. Become part of the solution, not part of the problem.
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  22.  @KolyaUrtz 1 - I'm not so sure that “some styles which are new today will be established as traditional“. Modernosm has been around for a century and we still haven't seen thier beauty except for maybe in a handful of objects. The masses of buildings being pumped out over the last 80 years are almost all ugly and dysfunctional. Many are demolished after only a few years. Tradition is a way of doing things that has developed over a very long time and differs depending on what part of the plant you live in. Materials, climate, resources and whatever plant and animal life are present have influenced our ancestors since they left caves and was fairly coninuous until the 1920's, despite the industial revolution, when it was decided to reject it all and reinvent somethng because those at the time were persuaded that technology was goig to give us better. That we knew better and were better equipped than pour predescessors. We can't invent tradition. We can invent styles, but why? and if it's not as good as what we've got should we use it anway? They've been trying for the last hundred years and haven't managed, but there are others, who get little publicity, who have kept the traditions alive. Not there's an ecological urgency we can see that the building industry is driving un into the wall. We need to rethink and we can start by looking where we were at when it all went wrong. Ask ourelves whs it legitimate to try reinventing things and if it was a success or a failure. For 2 - so some students do propose traditional architectures and pass? Look at Cayal in Guatemala for example, or Poundbury. No need for classical columns. For 3 - I agree. But many also pretend to be respecting the genius loci and destrioy it (Hadid in Antwerp) 4 - We have improved in technology, but whether we have improved in building methods and materials is more than debatable. Buildings don't last any more. Reinforced concrete is problematic and has a limited life. It's not a question of wall thickness. Look online for the discovery they've made very recently about how Romans made their concrete. Theirs lasts thousands of years, our doesn't last very log if exposed to the elements. Main problem is the nature of cement against that of lme. Cement is self destructing. Steel can be sueful but also problematic. Steel buildings with impermeable skins is another recipe for disster. Glass facades have to be replaced periodically. Why not use the techniques and materials that last for centuries. Especially as we know we can't continue wasting and rebuilding towns every 50 years. We know more about psycholo^gy today than 50 years ago, and we know today the effects of modernist architecture on the human brain (look at ann sussman videos for ex.) Most insulating mateiral come from the oil and mining industries. PUR is another disaster waiting to ahppen (not to mention Grenfell Tower) 5 - don't understand. We can't continue to consider buildings as consumer goods we can dispose of after 20 years. We need to stop waste and reduce the impact we're having on this world. I thought young people wer genuinely concerned and afraid of this. (of cours, but maybe not for architecture) 6 - That's what I mean about archtects thinking the exact opposite of “normal“ people. And believe me. It isn't the normal people who are wrong. You were a normal person also at one stage, but school brainwashes you. It did me for a while. 7 - beutiful buildings always existed also, because they were built considering others, considering their context and those who paid for them wanted them to be beautiful as they were their expression în the community. Now it's a corporate image, an XL spreadsheet and an architect trying to get the admiration of other architects.
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  46.  @ligametis  I'm 99% sure they are ugly. Compare them with anything Haussmann had built. Architectural education prepares you to think differently to normal people. You are trained (to say that you) find beauty in ugliness. Being incomprehensible to normal people allows the architectural profession to give the impression that they have some genius somewhere that others don't. That they know some truth that others can't see. That's the only way they can become a pseudo-elitist body and get away with wht they do with impunity.If you reflect on your path from joining architectural school you'll see this. At what point in your education was something revealed to you that gave you that gift of genius the ordinary man hasn't got? Architectural education hasn't changed and is the same the world over apart from a very few schools. You're left to your own devices and just have to find out by yourself how to please a panel of bullies. Your'e probably doing quite well. Actually I just looked at Habitat 67. It is horrendous. An insult to anyone that has to live or look at it. That illustrates precisely my point. Would you have found that beautiful before you began architectural studies? I could go on like this for ever, but until you actually decide to reflect on what has happened to you you'll be locked in this twisted and dangerous logic. I say all this very camply and with no emotion. I was a modernist student too until I began looking at the twisted opinions I was spouting when those close to me kept saying they were flabbergasted at what I was showing them as good architecture. I realised I was making mysel appreciate horrible buildings and getting a buzz that people were thinking I might know something they didnt (sound familiar?).
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  48.  @svart-rav8072  Is there something wrong with what I said? Maybe you could elaborate. I don't expect you to really. I can spot an architectural student a mile off. Please at least take a step back and realise that you're being manipulated and think again when you qualify. Ask one of your teachers to attemp a reply here. I know architects try to make everyone believe that the opposite is true, when we know it isn't. Every opinion poll taken over the last few years (I don't think they had them before) show that what architets call beautiful and what everyone else calls beautiful are exactly the opposite. And we, who have studied architecture, know that we haven't been shown where everyone else is wrong and we are right. You just have to obey, fit yourself in to a mould dictated by a failed idology dreamt-up by misquided people a century ago. If their reaction at the time was against excessive decoration then it's legitimate that the avant-garde today is reacting against not only the blandness of the brave new world but the ecological cost. Scentific research show through eye tracking that people's eyes do not engage with modernist buildings (look at research - Ann Sussmann). Socialogical and psychological research show that modernist surroundings negatively affect the mental health and social behaviour of those living and experiencong them. I could go on forever and in great detail, but I will just say this one simple thing. Today scientific research is able to explain what we knew all along. In the 1920s a handful men, interested mainly in their own promotion, decided that everything belonging to the past in architecture should be expunged and EVERYTHING re-invented. All the principles were to be be revised, and that architects should set themselves against the past. If they condemned architecture to history, I,and many more like me, think that it is an illigitmate order, and we refuse to refuse the lessons and examples of the past. Why should we deprive ourselves, and especially our fellow citizens for whom we build, of our rich heritage, fruit of human endeavoiur and intelligence over thousands of years? Especially when you see what they have given us since. It's purely an ideological decision to which I do not adhere. 100 years ago they might not have realised what mess we would be in today, but now that we know the consequences we should have a hard look at reality and listen to those who haven't been brainwashed. They shouldn't still be presenting Le Corbusir & Co. as if it their ideas are still revolutionary?, but showing how they have failed.
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