Comments by "Richard Jones" (@EE12CSVT) on "Legion Of Men"
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@kingrubbatiti1285 @Kizz217 I've seen it too often over the past 30 years for it to be a coincidence. When I was at university in the early 90s, I had a friend I'll call Dave. He was somewhere between Larry Grayson and Dylan Mulvaney. He'd flip his head quickly, flip his fingers down in speech, sit with his legs tightly crossed, he'd talk with that gay lisp, talk like a woman does, and though he was tall he had as much meat on him as a butcher's pencil. I'd had a couple of dates with a girl - it didn't go anywhere. Then she met him, and it was love at first sight for her. They very much had a physical relationship as they were over each other in public, and he'd still be this gay man in public with her, so it wasn't an act. I don't recall them splitting up. I can think of many other examples of soft, effeminate, weedy men having loads of dates with fit young women.
The trend I've noticed over the years since is that the men who talk to women as a woman does, with feminine emotions, feminine energy, patterns of speech and so on - and men who very much aren't stoic - are the men that women get besotted over.
I used to know an older divorced guy who had the masculinity and leasership of a 9 y/o boy - I had to spend all day with him in London once, and it felt like I was dragging around an indecisive, whiny small boy. On twitter, he'd be Sir Simpalot around the younger women in our group, constantly white knight for them, and constantly be their free court jester. Despite/because of this, he was never short of dates in his home area (we had a mutual friend) and had a striing of girlfriends. He married one. I declined the invite for the wedding as it would be a farce of a marriage.
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It's the same in the UK, but I wouldn't say it's because they feel safer, it's because she can control the feminine man, who'll give her a free pass. He also gives her the female emotions she wants. Something I learned the hard way was that women expect men to relate to them as woman to woman, and if a guy does that to her, all emosh, he's in. I've seen Chads relate to women in a woman's manner.
Women initially see my dominance and masculinity and are attracted to it. They assume they can emasculate me as they have done all their other men, but I don't allow it. When she discovers this, she's off.
I have to be dpminant as part of my work, and I'm successful at it. I also find that even at 5ft 8in, I'm more dominant than most men out there, including much larger ones. It amused me 5 years ago to learn just how easily dominated most men were, and how little presence they had. But they're the men women date.
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Same experience from the gyms I've used. I see the same guys, and get to know them superficially. The outgoing men who do little but talk with anyone and everyone are very feminine even if they're straight. Being very social like Bo seems to advocate is a feminine trait and the men who women in social settings hang around are very feminine in how they talk to peoole, not just women. They talk to me in the same female way, with the same female emotions and how they switch from one emotion to another. If I didn't know it was a hetero man, I could swear I was talking to a woman.
I also see it's generally gay men who socialise a lot like at people's gardens, or these feminine men, or it's a family gathering of some kind. Men just don't get together like that unless they're working on a car project, or they're railway engineers, or are building a model railway. Men get together to do something with each other by getting their hands dirty together, not stand around chatting with a drink. I'm happier giving a friend a hand with his car and chatting with him than standing still with just a beer. The masculine men prefer to be working on their hobbies, or working out. I prefer to go swimming or on a long hike.
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@16:30 agreed, as men we're made to have stable monogamous family relationships where the man has equal input into raising his children over a lengthy period of time in the one same family unit, one which he provides for and protects, and with a wife who'll follow his lead and will be loyal and a positive force in his life. That's the desire most men have, I'd say, and it was the norm for such a long period of time. Today, it's unobtainium unless you're really, really lucky to hit the jackpot. This has always been my dream, but after decades of experience, and after decades of watching other men get completely crushed by women who think they could've done better and regret having to have settled for the poor sap they married, I realised it just wasn't going to happen. I guess I could've got a woman pregnant after seeing her casually, and as far as I'm aware I have no chlidren running around as I wasn't always careful, but the white picket fence you describe that men would kill for, with a wife the man is certain wouldn't divorce him or crush him through psychological torture, is today a myth.
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@HollAnna They sure do. I know a few very successful businessmen or men in very good csreers, in their 40s. They're about the same - tall, handsome, well dressed, well groomed, they socialise, great with kids, they're all the things. None of them date. They can't find a woman who doesn't take, take, take. Once women discover they can't use them, can't manipulate, can't emasculate, they run away. The only thing "wrong" with them is what's "wrong" with me - they have a backbone and women hate it.
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