Comments by "Richard Jones" (@EE12CSVT) on "Legion Of Men"
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@HollAnna They sure do. I know a few very successful businessmen or men in very good csreers, in their 40s. They're about the same - tall, handsome, well dressed, well groomed, they socialise, great with kids, they're all the things. None of them date. They can't find a woman who doesn't take, take, take. Once women discover they can't use them, can't manipulate, can't emasculate, they run away. The only thing "wrong" with them is what's "wrong" with me - they have a backbone and women hate it.
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@kingrubbatiti1285 @Kizz217 I've seen it too often over the past 30 years for it to be a coincidence. When I was at university in the early 90s, I had a friend I'll call Dave. He was somewhere between Larry Grayson and Dylan Mulvaney. He'd flip his head quickly, flip his fingers down in speech, sit with his legs tightly crossed, he'd talk with that gay lisp, talk like a woman does, and though he was tall he had as much meat on him as a butcher's pencil. I'd had a couple of dates with a girl - it didn't go anywhere. Then she met him, and it was love at first sight for her. They very much had a physical relationship as they were over each other in public, and he'd still be this gay man in public with her, so it wasn't an act. I don't recall them splitting up. I can think of many other examples of soft, effeminate, weedy men having loads of dates with fit young women.
The trend I've noticed over the years since is that the men who talk to women as a woman does, with feminine emotions, feminine energy, patterns of speech and so on - and men who very much aren't stoic - are the men that women get besotted over.
I used to know an older divorced guy who had the masculinity and leasership of a 9 y/o boy - I had to spend all day with him in London once, and it felt like I was dragging around an indecisive, whiny small boy. On twitter, he'd be Sir Simpalot around the younger women in our group, constantly white knight for them, and constantly be their free court jester. Despite/because of this, he was never short of dates in his home area (we had a mutual friend) and had a striing of girlfriends. He married one. I declined the invite for the wedding as it would be a farce of a marriage.
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Same experience from the gyms I've used. I see the same guys, and get to know them superficially. The outgoing men who do little but talk with anyone and everyone are very feminine even if they're straight. Being very social like Bo seems to advocate is a feminine trait and the men who women in social settings hang around are very feminine in how they talk to peoole, not just women. They talk to me in the same female way, with the same female emotions and how they switch from one emotion to another. If I didn't know it was a hetero man, I could swear I was talking to a woman.
I also see it's generally gay men who socialise a lot like at people's gardens, or these feminine men, or it's a family gathering of some kind. Men just don't get together like that unless they're working on a car project, or they're railway engineers, or are building a model railway. Men get together to do something with each other by getting their hands dirty together, not stand around chatting with a drink. I'm happier giving a friend a hand with his car and chatting with him than standing still with just a beer. The masculine men prefer to be working on their hobbies, or working out. I prefer to go swimming or on a long hike.
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@16:30 agreed, as men we're made to have stable monogamous family relationships where the man has equal input into raising his children over a lengthy period of time in the one same family unit, one which he provides for and protects, and with a wife who'll follow his lead and will be loyal and a positive force in his life. That's the desire most men have, I'd say, and it was the norm for such a long period of time. Today, it's unobtainium unless you're really, really lucky to hit the jackpot. This has always been my dream, but after decades of experience, and after decades of watching other men get completely crushed by women who think they could've done better and regret having to have settled for the poor sap they married, I realised it just wasn't going to happen. I guess I could've got a woman pregnant after seeing her casually, and as far as I'm aware I have no chlidren running around as I wasn't always careful, but the white picket fence you describe that men would kill for, with a wife the man is certain wouldn't divorce him or crush him through psychological torture, is today a myth.
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They are, and sadly Bo just enables it all. He's giving men the message that they have to tolerate all this crap, play these stupid games, pander to these wretched train wreck women. Because, guess what, in the past, dating was fun, light, carefree, enjoyable. Now, your cortisol levels are through the roof because apparently we have to 'handle' women we should be running away from faster than Usain Bolt.
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Correct. The trouble is, being masculine, having a solid ftame, having boundaries and not afraid of enforcing them drives women away. Sure, it's initially attractive because they see you as confident, competent, dominant, but they assume they're going to be able to break it and that you'll let them. Once they discover that you don't, they lose interest very quickly. I'm lucky that I have three female friends who respect my masculinity and don't expect me to be feminine around them or that I'll be feminised. One of these women is very much on my case and falls into line if I disagree with her on something I want to do. The other two are more distant but didn't try to feminise me or expect me to relate to them as a woman does.
Other women I know are acquaintances because they didn't like that I wasn't going to be feminine around them. I've met ao many women who I've initially attracted who then drifted off fairly soon because they too recognised I don't simp, pedestalise, nor do I emasculate, nor do I give them feminine emotional energy as I talk to them. But what I notice is that plenty of men talk to women (sometines the same ones I've driven away) in that feminine way, as women do, and with that emotion, and women love it. As other guys have said in the comments here, women want feminised men, or men who talk to them as women do. It's very, very rare to find a woman who hangs around you over time and respects your masculinity and doesn't expect you to be feminine. It's a great feeling when you've got a woman like that around you, who knows what masculinity is, will automatically follow your lead, and doesn't see the need to challenge your frame.
As far as hanging around with men, the vast majority have been feminised, including the tall, well built men. I've found for several years that it's very eaay to be the most dominant guy in nearly every situation, or to take over as that guy, that men automatically give me respect, or if I meet someone else on my level, we give each other a head nod of recognition and we won't challenge each other. But there's only one guy in my area who I talk to regularly and I don't regard him as being a feminised man, and he knows it, because he sees the legions of feminised men around him as I do around me. We're the odd ones out, and why we get on. It's sad.
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Same in UK. A few friends of mine are bachelors, and they socialise a lot in a big town. They've given up on women because they can't find any who take, take, take. It doesn't matter how rich and successful you are, how tall, handsome, well dressed, well groomed, well travelled, well socialised, how good you are with children, it means nothing. You still get used.
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