Hearted Youtube comments on Extra History (@extrahistory) channel.
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I think it's dumb and reductionist when people pretend that the democracy of Athens has anything to do with our modern democracy. If anything, Rome is the ancient republic that we nicked a lot of ideas from, not Athens. In reality, though, we have only really taken the names from those ancient republics. Our modern democracy would be unrecognisable to any ancient Roman or Athenian.
Edit: I don't want to engage with the youtube reply system, so I'm just going to expand on a few things here. By "we" I was referring to the US and UK (which, given that I'm neither American nor British and have never been to the US, is admittedly a bit weird, yeah), and by "nicked a lot of ideas from" I mean the word 'senate', the fascis symbol, etc., i.e a bunch of symbolism and wording, but not really any actual direct influence of how the system works. Compared to the democracies of ancient times, even the US looks like a utopia of representation.
I think focus should be more on what modern events and forces created the ideas that have led to our modern democracies, rather than the things that ostensibly "inspired" them. Modern democracy is a result of changing material conditions (improving standard of living and education, for ex.), not a re-discovery of a long lost system of government that everyone suddenly agreed was better.
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I am glad so many people are getting interested in history due to this series. But, let us remember, this style of telling history (more like a story) has distinct flaws. Specifically, to tell the story in a compelling way, some things get emphasized and some things get downplayed. Too much nuance is lost when this style of history becomes your primary source. For example, the show portrays Peter as just signing a letter claiming his unfitness to rule Russia, when he signed it at the point of a bayonet.
Let shows like this get you interested in a historical event. History is interconnected. The American Revolution happened in large part because Peter pulled back from Berlin. The reason that was important was it caused the British to win the war. Due to that victory, they left the colonies alone, and allowed them to form their own governments. Also, the man who is credited with building the Continental Army was a former Prussian officer during the 7 Years’ War. If the war had continued, he might have died. The French loss in the 7 Years’ War is part of the reason they supported the Americans. Etc. You cannot tell all of that in a story format.
One of my college projects (History Major, focusing on the History of Prussia), was building a timeline of the start of WW1. It could not be done in a left to right linear fashion. Instead, we started from a central event (the assassination). The timeline grew outwardly, forming a spider’s web of events. Solid circles formed time. Dotted colored lines connected the events, as each events’ influence spread, and connected with other events. Some events occurred only a few minutes apart, despite occurring in different countries, and immediately influenced another country's actions.
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