Comments by "" (@timogul) on "How Money Works" channel.

@aeverton2877 But what I'm saying is that the collateral damage is a negligible part of the process, and basically difficult to avoid. Any player that would ruin himself over a gacha game was not going to otherwise lead an uneventful life. He would have found some other way to gamble his money away. Gaming cannot be held hostage to such people.
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@saxor96 I didn't ignore any of the relevant bits. Most of the stuff you talked about was just basic gameplay, ways to engage players. What even are games but "flashing lights and colors?" Gacha games tend to very clearly display their odds, because they are required to by law in some jurisdictions. As for "pay to skip grins," I can see why that can seem annoying, but it does allow for a fair balance, where free players can still access everything over time, but people with more money than time can shortcut some of that and get right in. This provides value to those able to spend, without taking anything away from those who can't.
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@saxor96 Again, "a casino does it" does not make it inherently bad. Disney was doing a lot of things casinos do before Vegas really got big. Again, "player engagement" is practically indistinguishable from "dark methods" or whatever you call them, and you've yet to offer actual suggestions of how to protect gambling addicts without making things considerably more difficult for the 99.999% of players who are not.
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@saxor96 Again, games have been "manipulating the player into continuing to play" for as long as videogames have existed. The same practices that people point to as "manipulative" about a F2P game are also there in classic AC games.
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@saxor96 Ok, it doesn't have dailies, but are dailies really that big a problem to you? I like having dailies in live service games, they keep me actively engaged so that I don't trail off. With other games, once I "finish" them and move on, it's hard to bring me back in when more content comes out. Of course the burden is on them to make the overall experience worthwhile, but so long as I enjoy the game, and so long as the dailies are not an unreasonable time sink, I really don't have an issue with running dailies. Also, older games had plenty of "near impossible tasks" to them, they just didn't offer a way around them.
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@saxor96 So you agree that they definitely did have nearly impossible tasks, you just don't agree that we should care. I will say that live service games that DO roadblock content with "nearly impossible tasks" are just bad games. The good ones do not do this. Bad games exist, that doesn't mean that all games are bad.
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@saxor96 Not really. I play games like Genshin and FGO, and they don't have any impossible tasks. What higher challenge tasks they do have tend to be completely optional side content, and can still be cleared without spending money. I feel like a lot of your argument is based on second hand information, other people telling you that a game or game mechanic is bad, rather than practical first hand experience. I also feel like you draw arbitrary distinctions between "games you like" and "games you don't like." At the end of the day, games have to make a profit for them to continue making more, so mechanics designed to make money are not automatically somehow worse than mechanics that do not make money. The distinction between "good" and "bad" is far more nuanced than that, and based in how specific mechanics add up to a whole game.
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@saxor96 That's. . . nonsense. You aren't describing Genshin Impact at all. No boss mats you need should be on bosses you can't fight, there are higher quantities of drops on higher level bosses, but you should always be able to get plenty, and that's an issue that would only even matter to your first few characters. You should rapidly be at the point you can farm any endgame boss. Spending money isn't even a factor here, since you literally CAN'T spend money on those materials. You also don't need "broken 5*s," since the 4\*s available work just fine. And if you do want a few good 5*s, there is plenty of free currenty and a pity system, so even F2Ps are GUARANTEED to get the 5*s they might actually want.
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@saxor96 Again, no, if the boss dropped a material that you needed to reach the next level, then the character you currently had was perfectly capable of beating that boss. You just weren't playing well. In all the years I've been playing Genshin, you are literally the first person I've heard express this issue, and I'm not even a particularly good player myself, so I understand difficulty frustrations in principle. As for Constellations, most characters are fine without any, especially the 5*s. There are certain 4*s that need higher constellations, but that's sort of assumed everyone will get there eventually, and/or you don't actually need what that character offers. I've been playing since launch, have a very large roster of characters, and have only directly pursed a single c1 character, and that was not because it was necessary, I had run her for almost a year by that point without it, it was just a neat QoL bonus that I really wanted. And as for the pity, you just go into it assuming bad luck. Go in with enough currency to hit double pity, and hope for better. My point is that even if you do hit double pity EVERY time, you would get enough of the specific characters you want to enjoy the game with, GUARANTEED. the only chance is in how much more than that you might get.
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@36paris Most whales are rich though. They don't necessarily have a "problem," they just have enough money that they don't care about spending thousands of dollars on a game, any more than you would find it ridiculous to spend $5 on a coffee.
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@36paris Also, rich people are just as likely to have addiction problems as anyone else. They are just better able to cope with them because they have more money to spend.
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