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Gender, (there are 2 male, and female) that's it, refers to the sex assigned at birth and the social aspects of being male or female, respectively. Male and female are biological categories which are fixed and permanent.
Then, they conflate gender and personality. Then, they conflate gender and gender roles. Then they conflate gender with sexual preference. Then, they conflate males with females, fact with fiction and men with women.
A woman isn't a personality, a social construct, a feeling, or a costume that a man can just put on or take off-- She's an adult, human, female. As it turns out, there's a prerequisite to being a woman-- and that's being born female, making 'cis' entirely irrelevant and useless.
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@dariocarraresi1823 Then, why are they joining women's only sports teams??? Don't be an idiot.
You and trans hippie better get your stories straight, because he insists trans women are women, and if he isn't treated like one he gets triggered if you don't use his preferred female pronouns, and let him encroach in places designated for women only.
The question still stands unanswered-- What business do they have expecting to encroach on women's sports or private spaces segregated by sex, like prisons, showers, locker rooms, changing rooms, bathrooms, if Trans people don't have the expectation to be treated as the opposite sex?
You can't, won't, and don't justify it, so have no reasonable expectation of acceptance, affirmation or validation, and it's why you're dismissed.
Do Better
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@dariocarraresi1823 Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021 Followed trans woman for 20 years and 88 percent desisted. It was just confirmed in another 15 year study.
This is directly from the writer and tenured board member at WPATH, Ken Zucker: Not to mention the leaked wpath files showing doctors themselves do not think these kids are mentally mature enough to consent to the surgeries.
Kenneth Zucker et Al 2021: 88 percent of trans women desisted after 20 years. 93% resorted to homosexuality vs affirmation treatment with a self delete rate nearly 10x's higher than the general population at nearly 40%, doesn't appear to be validating the 1% 'regret rate' claim-- as accurate (looks like a huge net loss to me, being that gays have a self-delete rate closer to the general population, at around 4% comparatively)-- in NO way justifies claims of affirmation-based treatment protocols as efficacious.
In case anyone reading is actually interested: If sex and gender identity are truly independent, then why do trans women and trans men go through so many hoops to change their primary sex characteristics???
Well, according to the analysis, data and conclusions of the studies I've seen, Happy people aren't overwhelmingly sui~*d@l, and those who are have a psych issue at play.
Swedish study: Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
A 2020 academic study with a sample size of 372 respondents found that 40 percent of transgender people had attempted suicide.
Similarly, in 2016, the National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that 41 percent of 6,450 respondents said they had previously attempted suicide. By comparison, the CDC found that in 2020, 0.36 percent of the population had attempted suicide.
According to a 2022 survey by The Trevor Project, an LGBTQ+ suicide prevention organization, nearly 1 in 5 young people who identified as transgender or non-binary have attempted suicide.
According to a 2019 UCLA School of Law- Williams Institute report on the thoughts and attempts of self deleting-- the Reports shows that The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes.
Although the research literature to date agrees that transgender people are at an elevated risk of suicide thoughts and attempts, there is still much to learn about why transgender people are particularly at risk.
Also, the conclusion of the Swedish study, which concluded that persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity-- than the general population.
The findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
When the rate of self deletes among the general population is 10x's lower, and when studies showing that up to 90% desist and end up gay, with only a 4% self delete rate by contrast, the results of affirmation-based treatment protocols are horrible by contrast, making it's justification questionable at best.
Quit whining about preferred pronouns usage, and acting like anyone should care at all, about how you identify subjectively. The truth is, you're wrong and you hate us knowing it, pointing it out and proving your claims false, and it upsets you that we don't buy your narratives. Your addiction to confirmation biased info is clear, and your inability to prove us wrong haunts you
Why would they? They don't care, because they identify as people who don't have to indulge, much less affirm, accept, or validate the intellectual pablum of the mentally, and intellectually disenfranchised, as though it's based in substance, logic, or reason.
As far as the majority of the people of the world and I are concerned, your entire 'trans gender' identity is an performance, and your ideological narratives remain hollow and less than compelling or persuasive.
The thing is, the world doesn't care about appealing to you for Your acceptance, validation, feelings etc., and it doesn't owe you it's participation in the LARP and cosplay either.
You may believe wearing your Halloween princess costume makes you an actual princess, but you're only fooling yourself. It doesn't
Your ideology is rejected as intellectual pablum, as objective reality proves it to be nonsense. Feel free to believe in your cult ideology, and cosplay and LARP to your heart's content, just know that the world doesn't owe you it's participation in your dress up fantasy.
Carry on, you have the right to be wrong. You're only fooling yourselves
Bro.. here’s a funny fact
If you look at your 1 percent surgical rejection rate meta analysis, you’ll see not one study actually analysis SRS (surgical regret rate) or top surgery in trans men
Did you see the Hillary Cass report? She is against early social transition because it puts the kids down a path of confusion … Why don’t trans activists listen ? Lol... YouTube “gender identity services in England - a cass review”. Cass called out the hypocrisy in the old diagnostic criteria …
She asked for increased diagnostic criteria, she asked for the removal of the old pink/ blue system
She wants increased treatment range to not include gender affirming care. AP- A major UK report says trans kids are being let down by toxic…
“Dr. Hilary Cass said there is “no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress,” and young people have been caught up in a “stormy social discourse” about the issue.”
Cass’ report, which runs to almost 400 pages, said that “for most young people, a medical pathway” is not the best way to deal with gender-related issues.
“Cass said young people questioning their gender identity should be given “a holistic assessment” including screening for neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, and a mental health assessment.”
In her report, Cass said there was “no clear evidence” that social transition in childhood — such as changing names or pronouns — has any positive or negative mental health outcomes.
“The report also concluded that there is no simple explanation for why the number of young people identifying as transgender has shot up in recent years in the U.K. and other countries.”
13:27 - conversation is about hormones. She says early social transition and medicalization greatly influence one into a path of surgical transition …. Just listen to her for a few minutes. Listen to 16:00 specifically for social transition. I agree with her
This new study just published last month
“Risk of Suicide and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery”
Individuals who underwent gender-affirming surgery had a 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who did not (3.47% vs. 0.29%, RR 95% CI 9.20-15.96, p < 0.0001).
“Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”
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Don't conflate gender (physical descriptor) with gender roles (Social constructs referring to the roles of males and females without exception), personality traits and temperament (Neither of which are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys) as though they're synonymous, like Hippie does-- that's a massive error causing lots of confusion.
Seems like Hippie (The resident propaganda troll) views conforming to sexist stereotypes, as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That's just weird
Bottom line is: spaces, and organizations designated for females, are done so, because of biology-- Not feelings or perceptions about it, or socially constructed gender identity claims.
Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, it is not morally superior, and it is demonstrably harmful, not least of which to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues.
It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic"-- when the total opposite is true.
They need validation from others in order to be happy etc., instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them, because they're socially stunted and emotionally unstable.
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@TransHippie Seething and triggered with ZERO integrity are a terrible look for you. Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete.
An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders.
As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender.
Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”).
So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”.
The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not.
Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female.
A man in a dress is still a man
A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man
A man calling himself a woman-- still a man
A man with an effeminate personality--still a man
Seethe if you must, then just cope harder
You/They haven't put forth no reasoning that withstands scrutiny, rendering your/their narratives and opinions as less than useless and therefore invalid.
Your incoherent rants and claims of legitimacy, are figments of your imagination.
Reality isn't an anti-trans ideology. Trans is an anti-reality ideology, and they're the ones seeking affirmation, validation, and the participation of everyone in their larp and cosplay, based on the belief that their subjective delusions are based in reality. Newsflash: They aren't
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@TransHippie I notice your inability to engage with the scrutiny of your narratives in good faith or with any rational, logical or coherent replies.
You have a right to exist, and dress in a quirky fashion, and to choose a gay life style. It doesn't entitle you to be in the girl's showers or any other women's only spaces.
There's no hate involved in recognizing that a male in a dress is a male in a dress... That's just being observant
Your hyperbolic rhetoric, and anti-social personality is evident in your extensive post history calling everyone who asks you to justify your expectations that everyone in society is required to participate in your treatment plan, fa$cists, __ phobes, Not C's, etc... You know, the stuff most find unacceptable, while you appeal for acceptance and validation.
Not a winning strategy making any kind of persuasive case for you or your incoherent narratives-- none of which withstand the scrutiny of your claims, imo
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@dariocarraresi1823 And of those males, it doesn't justify a male in a woman's only space. Those aren't designated as such, based on socially constructed gender identity claims.
You're not a fairy princess because you identify as one, and dress in the costume.
Those males for example, who don't have a gender dysphoria diagnosis, but just like dressing like a drag queen, or making a socially constructed gender identity claim that they identify as a woman aren't justified to occupy women's only spaces either, as those spaces are designated as such based on sex, not gender or gender identity claims.
As discussed in the other thread, a reduction in gender dysphoria still shows according to Conclusions from "Risk of Su*c*de and Self-Harm Following Gender-Affirmation Surgery" 4/2024
"The results of this study indicate that patients who have undergone gender affirmation surgery are associated with significantly higher risks of su*c*de, self-harm, and PTSD compared to general population control groups in this real-world database. With su*c*de being one of the most common causes of d3ath for adolescent and middle-aged individuals, it is clear that we must work to prevent these unfortunate outcomes. This further reinforces the need for comprehensive psychiatric care in the years that follow gender-affirmation surgery."
Doesn't look like acceptable, efficacious results to me
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People aren't social constructs. All men are born male, all women are born female, and neither are a social construct, feeling, fetish, preference, personality or a costume
Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete.
An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders.
As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender.
Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”).
So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from "genus", such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”.
The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. ;)
Way too many inappropriately and incorrectly conflate gender/sex (There are only 2-- male/female... That's it) with personality traits and temperament (There are a ton and none are gender exclusive-- hence effeminate males, butch females and tomboys), and again with gender roles (without exception refer to the roles of males and females in society) as though they're synonymous and they are not.
Science has already proven that the binary dichotomy of all mammals is male/female.
A man in a dress is still a man
A man with anxiety about his sex/gender-- still a man
A man calling himself a woman-- still a man
A man with an effeminate personality--still a man
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@tadonplane8265 First, intersex individuals are not asexual, but have clear sex biomarkers that makes their sex epistemically uncertain. The biological constitution of intersex individuals involves at least some typically male/female biological sex features in their genotype, phenotype, et cetera. Should we place biomarkers aside, it would not be clear what sex could mean???
Second, intersex individuals are not hermaphrodites. There are two misunderstandings to be warded off, the first in terms of there being no cases of hermaphroditism in the sense of individuals who are fully biological males and females, and the second in terms of embryonic development. Beginning with the former, the reason why “hermaphroditism” is no longer used in medical nomenclature is that there are, simply speaking, no hermaphrodites. While having both XX and XY chromosomes is possible, this is not identical to hermaphroditism—for reasons we shall see later in the discussion of the definition of “sex.” 2 With respect to the latter, Orr's (2020) quotation of Intersex Genital Mutilations: Human Rights Violations of Persons with Variations of Sex Anatomy (2016), the NGO report to the 7th periodic report of France on the Convention Against Torture (CAT). In it, we find the following:
Everybody started out as a hermaphrodite: Until the 7th week of gestation, every fetus has “indeterminate” genitals, two sets of basic reproductive duct structures, and bipotential gonads. Only after the 7th week of gestation, fetuses undergo sexual differentiation mostly resulting in typically male or female sex anatomy and reproductive organs. (p. 32).
However, the potential, i.e., hence the use of “ bipotential”, to be male or female is not the same as actually being “between” (intersex) male and female. Bipotential gonads presexual differentiation are different than actual bigonads post-sexual differentiation. Consequently, bipotential gonads do not entail a period of hermaphroditism in prenatal human beings.
Third and finally, Tudela et al. (2020) cite Arcelus et al. (2015) for a prevalence statistic for intersex conditions. The problem is that they cite a prevalence statistic of transsexual individuals, not intersex individuals—and they are different. Arcelus et al. (2015) defines “transsexual” as “individuals who experience discomfort or distress caused by the discrepancy between their gender identity and the sex they were assigned at birth.” (p. 3). This definition excludes at least two categories of intersex individuals, and consequently cannot be a reliable intersex prevalence statistic.
First, it would exclude prenatal intersex individuals, e.g., through genetic screening can reveal whether a child has congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) or androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS), or during infancy. Second, it would exclude non-gender-dysphoric intersex individuals, and non-gender-dysphoric intersex individuals who did not receive surgery to change sexes. Consequently, even if intersex individuals met the definition of “transsexual” later in life, this prevalence statistic is unreliable. However, I hold that Tuleda et al.'s (2020) point still stands unscathed. Consider Sax's (2010) more reliable prevalence statistic of 0.018 percent. Sax's (2010) estimate carefully corrects Anne Fausto-Sterling's (and others’) statistic of intersex's prevalence being around 1.7 percent. Fausto-Sterling's statistic was based on a mistaken definition of intersex which would include Turner syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. In none of these cases is their true intersex in which there is sexual uncertainty, i.e., these are not cases of genuine sexual ambiguity. As Sax (2010) points out in the 0.018 percent figure, the prevalence is nearly one hundred times lower than Fausto-Sterling suggested.
Fourth (and relatedly), there are misunderstandings regarding the difference between being “sexually atypical” and being “intersex.” Consider Feder's (2014) remark that “the issue of “incidence” of atypical sex has been a vexed one, as it concerns not only the frequency with which children are born with atypical sex anatomies but also what counts as atypical sex.” (p. 211ff1, my italics). The idea here is that what it means to be intersex just is to have an atypical sex anatomy. There is a plausible case that “intersex” and “atypical sex anatomies” are not synonymous. Having an atypical sex anatomy might refer to the broader category of a difference in one's sexual anatomy, but it does not highlight the heterogeneous property of all intersex conditions: uncertainty with regard to one's sex. As Feder (2014) herself admits, the atypical sex anatomy of “hypospadias” (p. 211ff1) involve children “who are usually regarded as unquestionably male” (p. 211ff1). 3 However, if atypical sex anatomy does not make a sex-specific claim, i.e., saying something about sex identification, then it should not be used either as a placeholder for, or as a description of, intersex. Having warded off misunderstandings of “intersex”, I will now provide four arguments that “intersex” does not violate the sex binary. cais (intersex deformity) comes along with hermaphroditism btw
Gender: The status of being either male or female. The entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete.
An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that there are only two genders.
As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in his/her womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate him/herself). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender.
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@HeathenGranny Evidence??
You either can or can't articulate a coherent response to the scrutiny of your narratives and claims or you can't... If you can't, won't or don't-- the expectation that anyone accepts, affirms or validates your ideology as valid is unlikely at Best... So, Got anything of substance to contribute???
You think segregation of women and men's showers, prisons, locker rooms, changing rooms, restrooms, sports leagues/teams/divisions are based on subjective unverifiable gender identity claims or perhaps they're based on biology for a reason?
C'mon now... If, according to you-- genitals don't define gender, and gender and sex are separate, how does removing/adding them, and/or presenting as a caricature, using the stereotypical biological primary sex characteristics of the opposite sex as the goal post -- affirm it?
You're not a fairy princess because you identify as one, and dress in the costume.
Make it make sense
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@TransHippie Not much of a refutation or rebuttal from the obsessive trans activist troll. Ignore him
Your lies and deceit are numerous and noted. There are no trans people. All people are male and female, and their subjective sense of self and gender identity doesn't change that, and neither does their plastic surgery, fashion preferences, personality traits nor temperament, nor psych disorders nor redefining terms.
You can rename an apple 'Orange', and it won't alter the nature of an apple or an orange, and the same is true re: renaming a man 'trans woman'... Still a man
Replacing objective definitions, which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues.
It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognized as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into.
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@TransHippie *Violence Erupts: Transgender Assault Highlights Growing Crisis in Women's Shelters*
"In a shocking incident that underscores the growing dangers faced by women in shelters, a transgender individual is alleged to have attacked a staff member with a sword, leaving the victim severely injured and raising serious questions about safety protocols in facilities designated for women.
The attack took place at Shepherd's Gate, a women’s emergency shelter in Greenville, South Carolina, where Michelle Silva Perez, a biological male claiming to be female, reportedly turned violent after being evicted for breaking shelter rules.
Gruesome details of the assault emerged, revealing that the victim, identified only as "Kirby," underwent emergency surgery for life-threatening injuries, including exposed organs due to the attack. This incident has sent shockwaves through the community and highlights a critical issue facing shelters that cater to women."
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Holding one form of gender expression with a preference over another-- isn't the same as recognizing the difference between males and females, boys/men and girls/women, fact and fantasy, or truth over lies.
What I haven't seen is-- a reasonable expectation for suggesting that males who have a gender dysphoria diagnosis, or who don't, and just like identifying as trans or who like to dress as cross dressers to occupy spaces and organizations designated, designed and implemented for females-- just because they make a socially constructed gender identity claim.
It doesn't change the fact that the areas they're obsessed with occupying, which are designed for, designated for, and implemented for females are done so based on biology-- Not feelings or socially constructed gender identities, or claims
The entire toxic notion of 'trans women' is a fictional metaphysical, unverifiable, subjective, and incoherent ideological talking point, and a counter-culture cult term, that is not based in objective reality, and forces it's religiosity on women, with no right nor rational justification whatsoever.
Can anyone make it make sense?
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