Comments by "boz" (@BOZ_11) on "Piers Morgan Uncensored"
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@ilanrubin84 well Palestinians and Jews are genetically related. They've been there since Jesus 2000 years ago (and Jews even longer); Jews have always been an ethnic minority in the levant, and lived peacefully with Arabs for centuries, especially under the Ottoman empire (an Islamic caliphate). This violence that we see only started when the European Zionists (not all Zionists are Jews) in the 1920s, with their terror attacks on British police officers, the bombing of the King David hotel, etc. in Mandatory Palestine
Back to the genetic link, here's the paper's ID on Springer: 132, pages119–127 (2013)
Here's an excerpt from the study:
"The closest genetic neighbors to most Jewish groups were the Palestinians, Israeli Bedouins, and Druze in addition to the Southern Europeans, including Cypriots. The genetic clusters formed by each of these non-Jewish Middle Eastern groups reflect their own histories of endogamy. Their proximity to one another and to European and Syrian Jews suggested a shared genetic history of related Semitic and non-Semitic Mediterranean ancestors who followed different religious and tribal affiliations. Earlier studies of Israeli Jewish, Palestinian and Druze populations made a similar observation by demonstrating the proximity of these two non-Jewish populations to Ashkenazi and Iraqi Jews (Rosenberg et al. 2001; Kopelman et al. 2009)."
We need two states, a UN buffer zone, and UN peacekeepers down there, using the template of the UN plan for the Bosnian war in the 90s. Send the commandos in to get Hamas, but carpet-bombing civilians is insane, and a war crime.
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Talmud Quotes:
Sanhedrin 57a:16
"With regard to bloodshed, if a gentile murders another gentile, or a gentile murders a Jew, he is liable. If a Jew murders a gentile, he is exempt"
Sanhedrin 57a:17
"With regard to robbery, the term permitted is relevant, as it is permitted for a Jew to rob a gentile"
Sanhedrin 59a:2
"Rabbi Yoḥanan says: A gentile who engages in Torah study is liable to receive the death penalty; as it is stated: "Moses commanded us a law [torah], an inheritance of the congregation of Jacob" (Deuteronomy 33:4), indicating that it is an inheritance for us, and not for them"
Avodah Zarah 37a:1
"The Gemara explains the reason for this opinion: Since a nine-year-old boy is fit to engage in intercourse, he also imparts ritual impurity as one who experienced ziva. Ravina said: Therefore, with regard to a female gentile child who is three years and one day old, since she is fit to engage in intercourse at that age, she also imparts impurity as one who experienced ziva"
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it's not a war, Jordan. A ware is two or more standing armies facing off; there is only one military in this equation.
Jordan is parroting the line from American foreign policy about how this is Iran vs Israel, which is a nonsense smokescreen since Palestinians are being mass murdered, and any Iranian plot frivolous speculation, with nothing to corroborate.
They keep talking about the Oct' 7th terror attack (one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter), as though the ethnic cleansing of 10,000 Palestinians (noncombatant, innocent civilians) isn't enough of a counterweight to the 1400 dead Israelis. Apparently one Israeli life is worth 10 Palestinians, or more.
The Jewish "successful minority" lived peacefully with the Arabs for many many centuries under the Ottoman empire (an Islamic caliphate). The violence didn't start until the Zionists arrived in the 1920s with their terror attacks, murdering British police officers, bombing stations, and the bombing of the King David hotel in 1948.
Israel don't have the right to "defend" illegally occupied areas (any land past the 1967 borders, after Israel's win against Egypt and Jordan). This is ethnic cleansing.
The Abraham Accords have NOTHING to do with the Palestinians, and is moot in the present context. He should be citing the Oslo accords, if he knew anything about them
"Twitter is a very complicated social media platform"; your message was to applaud ethnic cleansing. Not subtle, not complicated. That was an animalistic message from a man who doesn't possess the capacity for violence, not the effective kind anyway.
I couldn't listen to the rest, it's all faff, from two mass murder advocates.
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@addisontaylor5979
“Okay, I don't know what you mean by "it," however I think whether you're talking about HMS or Israel, the irony is that the outcome is the same” --- You know you’re lying, since how can Gaza be the apartheid state? You know that makes no sense. Hamas is not the govt of Gaza, since they suspended elections over a decade ago. They do not represent the people.
“They ought to stop crying foul and just fight for their lives. But I suspect somewhere deep down most people know this is not an ethnic cleansing, which is why all out war has not yet been declared” -----Because a war is when two or more standing armies face off, yet there’s only one military in this equation; you know this very well. Can you stop being dishonest?
“The only thing to do with someone who only wants your erasure is to fight them” ----- and be slaughtered 50 to 1? 100 to 1? It’s like asking a woman to fight back against her r@pist, and condemning her if she lacks the strength to fend him off. Would you do that to your blood relatives? Probably not.
“On the other hand if HMS wants to exterminate Israeli people” ------ Where did you read this? Even if it were true, they have zero capacity; therefore, they are not an existential threat. Hamas can only exist so long as Israel indiscriminately murders Palestinian civilians; it is an Israeli creation which serves as a scapegoat to collectively punish innocent civilians en masse in a carpet-bombing campaign and a soon to be land invasion, which may very well end up as genocide, or at least the severest form of ethnic cleansing. If you’re happy with ethnic cleansing and war crimes, then just say so. There isn’t an ounce of morality in the argument that the Gazans need to be expelled or killed.
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'Irgun' are a terrorist organisation who later became the IDF
Wiki: "Two of the operations for which the Irgun is best known are the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out together with Lehi on 9 April 1948.
The organization committed acts of terrorism against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and against Arabs.[7] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments; in media such as The New York Times newspaper;[8][9] as well as by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry,[10][11] the 1946 Zionist Congress[12] and the Jewish Agency.[13]"
"Several prominent members of the Irgun, a Zionist paramilitary group that operated in Mandatory Palestine, later held positions in the Israeli government:
Menachem Begin - Leader of the Irgun from 1943-1948. Later served as Prime Minister of Israel from 1977 to 1983.
Yitzhak Shamir - A leader of the Lehi group, which split from the Irgun in 1940. Later served two terms as Prime Minister of Israel from 1983-1984 and 1986-1992.
Ezer Weizman - Irgun commander and later Israeli Defense Force commander. Served as President of Israel from 1993 to 2000.
Haim Landau - An Irgun member who participated in numerous operations. Served on the Israeli Supreme Court from 1953, including as President of the Court.
Yaakov Meridor - A commanding officer in the Irgun and signed Israel's Declaration of Independence. Later served as minister of justice and finance.
---While the Irgun was considered a terrorist group by the British authorities at the time, after Israeli independence several key former Irgun members went on to hold prominent positions in Israeli politics and society over the next several decades"
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Jews lived peacefully with the Arabs in the Levant until the Zionists arrived in the 1920s. Europeans? Well:
The expulsion of Jews from England in 1290 by King Edward I, banning Jews from entering the country. This expulsion lasted over 350 years until Oliver Cromwell permitted Jews to return in the 1650s.
The Spanish Inquisition beginning in 1478 led to the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492 unless they converted to Catholicism. Tens of thousands of Spanish Jews fled to Portugal, North Africa, Italy and the Ottoman Empire.
The expulsion of Jews from Portugal in 1497 gave them the choice to either convert to Christianity or be exiled. Many fled to North Africa, the Netherlands, Spain and Turkey.
Repeated expulsions of Jews from various German states throughout the Middle Ages, with massive expulsions in the 14th-15th centuries. Jews migrated eastward to Poland and Russia which were more tolerant.
The expulsion of Jews from the Papal States in 1569 when the Pope ordered all Jews in his territories to leave. Some Jews migrated to Florence, Venice and other Italian states.
The Russian Empire created a Pale of Settlement in 1791, restricting where Jews could live. Periodic expulsions from villages and cities occurred in the late 19th/early 20th centuries, forcing emigration.
The Nazi regime's policies to force Jews to emigrate from Germany and later occupied countries in the 1930s-1940s, culminating in the Holocaust.
Sorry Europe, you're the real monsters.
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