Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "A Different Bias" channel.

  1. "If you drive a nation to adopt procedures which run counter to its instincts, you weaken and may destroy the motive force of its action? You will realise that I am speaking of the frequent suggestions that the United Kingdom should join a federation on the continent of Europe. This is something which we know, in our bones, we cannot do" (Anthony Eden)
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  2. That's strong evidence the UK is leaving then. So, according to 'companies' and 'law firms' Chris Hoar is wasting his time remoaning on the internet... Thought as much!
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  3.  @nicholaswoolfenden5254  So this proves Brexiteers want to trade with the EU.
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  4.  @patrickokeeffe539  No one thought Brexit would be without difficulties or there would be an instant upturn in the UK economy - and that was before anyone knew about covid.
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  5.  @Honking_Goose  So, find me a pre-referendum quote from a Brexiteer that promised zero difficulties and an instant upturn in the UK economy. Oh! And the Remain side was allowed to mention the negatives. That's how democracy works. It was winner takes all - your side would have gladly taken all and gladly rubbed Farage's nose in it. But, your side lost - so my side gets to take all - and your side gets to get over it - or not...
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  6. But they are united now as the pro-EU lot have accepted defeat... In 17 May was able to win with them fighting like rats in a sack.
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  7. The chairman of Reform UK (support Brexit) is called Muhammad Ziauddin Yusuf.
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  8. Trump sees leadership as improving people's lives not war.
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  9. People opposed to an independent UK are fruitcakes and loonies.
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  10. The Tories are going to make 'the boats' the big question of next election. Vote Tory and they go to Rwanda - vote Labour and they come to a hotel near you...
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  11. So, since Brexit UK teams have not participated in European football, because other European teams didn't want to play with them - or is football a different thing - like apples and oranges are different...
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  12.  @QT5656  Why would UK teams not follow football rules when the UK invented the game and rules? Do you actually exist in an analogy - and if so what's the purpose?
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  13. Phil claims there were "tens of thousands of people - well here's a picture of ten thousand people: https://blog.lime.link/content/images/2018/12/10000.jpeg
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  14.  @errorswillmultiply1697  You mean the bit where he says he did not choose "re-join as soon as possible - because it's not up to us anymore"..... How does that make any sense?
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  15.  @errorswillmultiply1697  That's irrelevant - go ask a ten-year-old what 'soon as possible' means...
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  16. In the context of this discussion it means: ''the UK being able to re-join the EU'
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  17.  @errorswillmultiply1697  Have you any Idea how stupid the idea of re-joining the EU actually is to a normal person?
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  18.  @errorswillmultiply1697  The survey asked which statement was closest to the respondent's opinion and Phil chose we should work to make the best of Britain's position outside of the EU Phil has obviously become a 'rebrainer' ;o)
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  19. Maybe Suzzi Izzard could lead a 'rejoin crusade' and all the Leave voters would change their minds...
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  20. It's clear mainstream pro-EU politicians in the UK have given up on the UK ever re-joining the EU. They can see it's an 'impossible hill to climb' rather like reaching the summit of Everest wearing only budgie-smugglers and flip-flops. Yes, Lib-Dems will probably attempt to pickup the remoaner vote, but then; that tactic didn't do much for Ms Swinson's political career. The simple fact is if any UK government was to attempt to join the EU, there would be fierce and effective demand for a referendum. And anyone with an active braincell understands the 're-join' side would be lucky to get 25%. The same will apply to any UK government attempting to 'sneak' the UK into the Single Market - petitions would be raised and parliament would debate. The sneaky trick would be exposed and the idea of a referendum would put a stop to remoaner shenanigans. The minority remoaners have been put in a tiny box - and in a tiny box they must stay.
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  21. Phil you need to drop this gripe for the sake of your mental health (it's only a sandwich ffs!). The UK will not be rejoining the EU. You have to think of democracy as a spectator sport - you get one vote that never makes any difference. You're acting like a tyrannical despot demanding everyone accepts your opinions as being the only correct opinions. Why don't you plant some leek seeds, or build a pigeon loft, or take up angling for pikes in the canal, or buy a banjo and learn how to pluck a tune - instead of all this useless nonsense?
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  22. People are seeing a pro-EU establishment was never going to make was going to make UK independence appear successful. This is why Reform UK is on course to be the next UK government. The UK people don't want to be part of a federal Europe. This is why only 500 people turned up for the 2024 National Rejoin March.
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  23. UK doesn't need to sell fish to EU as UK only takes 20% of fish from UK waters. UK can buy this and sell elsewhere. UK shops full of basa and Alaskan pollack not caught in UK waters. No fish in EU shops is not a UK problem.
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  24. No need because the voters were made aware by Remain Campaign.
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  25. Yeah, a lot of people who voted for Brexit don't like it that 70% of MPs are life-long pro-EU political activists. Mabey, in 40 years time 70% of MPs will not want to join the EU and the people will vote 52% to join the EU. Wonder how well that would work out?
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  26. Thanks for not ruining it for us Brexiteers.
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  27.  @solidoperative  Life was so good in the EU - we voted out first chance. Sorry to break it to you, but your lack of effort only made a difference in your hubristic imagination.
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  28. I was in UK supermarket today and there was plenty of food.
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  29. We just make it in the UK better or find a new less expensive supplier or pay the extra for our freedom.
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  30.  @jiversteve  That was for the Remain side to point out - I seem to remember they tried to dissuade people from supporting Leave... I feel more free.
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  31. Has Phil and Angela Rayner ever been seen in the same room at the same time?
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  32.  @seang2700  Why guess and assume you're right?
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  33.  @englishcitystone1663  I'm going to need more...
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  34.  @bryangeake5826  Primary issue was leaving the EU which we did and we now just need to get the pro-EU activists out of parliament..
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  35.  @bryangeake5826  It takes a while for political change to take effect. We were in the EEC/EU thirty years before a UK single unskilled wage could no longer keep a family and buy a home...
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  36.  @englishsteve1465  We had a debate and a vote and your argument lost. The UK people want to be independent and to govern themselves. Your 'sensible' politicians will find it impossible to persuade the UK electorate to give-up independence. The UK parliament is overloaded with 85% pro-EU ideologues and not representative of the UK people - that's a problem for UK democracy which needs to get sorted.
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  37.  @englishsteve1465  My problem is the Remain campaign withheld its true objective from the UK people. 'Omission' is 'lies' - the 'movers & shakers' behind the UK/EU project want the UK in the eurozone - they thought they could trick the UK people to get it. If there is ever a UK referendum on joining the EU - an honest case for membership will have to be made - good luck with that...
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  38.  @Nannyirene  There were two sides to the campaign - Leave was trying to make a positive case for UK independence. Remain was free to set out all the things the EU was doing and wanted to achieve. The people listened to all the arguments and most voted for independence, choosing freedom over the obvious transitional setbacks pointed out by Remain. Remain could have made a more upbeat honest case informing the UK people of their wish for an EU army, Turkey to join the EU and the UK to join the eurozone. You have to accept 60% of the UK population never think about the EU - it's of absolutely no interest to them, and half of the remaining 40% only think about the EU, because they despise it.
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  39.  @bryangeake5826  Thing is you blame the Tories for this and that, but you skip over the fact those Tories were pro-EU activists and part of UK's 'put Europe first' problem. The woman you blame most was in support of joining the EEC (without referendum) and part of the government that joined the UK to the EEC when the Labour Party opposed. After Labour's Brexit manifesto failed at the 83 GE all main parliamentary parties of UK government became overloaded with pro-EU activists, thereby removing any realistic prospect of the people affecting that 'very' UK changing policy. In short, what I am driving at is, we were in 'Europe' with 'EU elections' 'EU politicians' and 'EU parliament' if life under the governance and in the political system of 'Europe' was making life significantly worse in terms of jobs/wages/housing and we had 10% say in the EU parliament - what else was there to blame. If 'life in the EU' wasn't 'life in the EU' - what exactly is your argument for membership? Whatever your counter arguments might be, working class people can understand that, more people bidding for employment makes it harder to find a job and causes wages to decrease. That more people bidding for housing reduces availability of houses and increases housing costs. And that, jobs, wages and housing costs are key to decent standard of living. Remain told us there were 3 million EU27 workers in the UK, yet 6.5 million EU27 workers applied to stay post Brexit. This is 10% of the UK population (never-mind the UK workforce). This is why the UK Unions and Labour Party opposed the federal Europe project before we were joined. In the end ordinary people rejected the EU because life in the EU was worse than before. Like I said a single unskilled UK wage used to be able to keep a family and buy a home. After decades of 'Europe' both parents are forced to work - go cap-in-hand for state welfare and cannot dream of buying a home. You blame pro-EU activsts - so do I - and so did the people of the UK.
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  40.  @englishcitystone1663  I don't think you're getting that the Remain side (including the UKGov leaflet) made out we would not be joining the eurozone, when it was clearly their intention to do so. This is the point I am making. UK Pro-EU activists were the reason the UK was in the EU and pro-EU activists support the aims an objectives of the EU. A pro-EU activist wanting the UK to keep the pound is like a UKIP member wanting the UK to adopt the euro. My question is why didn't the UK pro-EU activists say they wanted to join the euro? Not very honest of them hiding their true plan for the UK currency from the UK people.
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  41.  @englishsteve1465  It's also obvious any elected UK government can take us out of the EU. What's your problem anyway? Is it just because you want the UK to be in the EU? Is it just because you want the EU parliament to rule over the UK innit? What does it matter if the UK parliament (that you stated can decide what the UK can do) just actually does decide what the UK does?
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  42.  @englishcitystone1663  Who's 'we'? Do you mean the UK people? That's my point - those that are responsible for the UK being in the EU understand this, so have not pushed it. The thing is these people DO want the UK in the eurozone and had they won the 2016 referendum the anti-EU movement would have been defeated and the pro-EU activists would have started pushing for the UK to be in the EU single currency.
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  43.  @englishcitystone1663  If you are telling the truth - then you seem a bit dim. I'm not talking about 'your mates down the pub' - I'm talking about the people responsible for how this country got in the EU and has gotten deeper and deeper into the EU. These are the small village sized minority of people who have pulled all the strings on the last 50 years of UK politics. If they had not succeeded with their plan - you and your mates down the pub would never have marched to join the EU.
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  44.  @englishcitystone1663  If as you say 'the EU doesn't do much' then there's no point to being in it.
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  45.  @englishcitystone1663  That is where we are - we had a vote and all things considered it was a huge statement saying the disadvantages of membership did not outweigh the potential advantages of independence. We have to go with democracy and give independence a good crack. Autonomy is a useful thing, but it must be used in a sensible way.
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  46.  @bryangeake5826  There's a slight problem with your skewed version of how democracy is upheld. In the 2015 general election, MPs were elected on a voter turnout of 66.4% and there were 46.4 million registered voters meaning around 30 million actual votes. In our 'first past the post' electoral system, a successful candidate usually achieves around 40% - 50% of the constituency vote. If, for the sake of argument, we use the higher figure of 50% this would mean that those MPs you think should override the votes of 17.4 million voters (26% of the population) had been elected on 15 million votes, significantly less than 26% of the population.
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  47.  @bryangeake5826  If we had had PR Brexit would have happened sooner. There would have been anti-EU Left MPs and anti-EU Right MPs influencing party policy. The evidence clearly shows anti-EU voters were forced to vote for pro-EU candidates under FPTP. You shouldn't transpose FPTP into PR - they are different systems and would be used differently. The UK population is not interested in the EU and this would be represented in a PR parliament.
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  48.  @bryangeake5826  Not at all, I would welcome a referendum on the straightforward question: "Should we remain as an independent United Kingdom, or should we apply to join the European Union?" I am convinced this would put the issue to bed for good. By all means campaign for the political future you want for your country - just make a positive and truthful argument for the UK being part of a federal Europe.
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  49.  @bryangeake5826  The evidence is in the UK/EU and UK/GE election stats which clearly shows higher support for UKIP than under FPTP. These stats also prove lack of UK electorate desire for a federal Europe. If we look at the 2014 UK/EU election there was a 36% turnout and just 2 years later half of those voters must have voted to end EU interference in their country and lives. This leave 18% of UK voters (not UK people) positively participating in the EU political system. Furthermore, we have to factor that many will have voted Remain in the 2016 referendum, because the party they supported, supported Remain which eats into that 18% figure. You see why I want a rejoin referendum?
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  50.  @bryangeake5826  In the 2017 GE 80% of the electorate voted for parties which promised to do Brexit.
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