Comments by "Zrips" (@Zripas) on "Johnny Harris"
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@a_mustache_of_great_repute
Differently then religion science will not make 100% certainty claims, this is why in general you will have label as "Theory of gravity" and not "fact of gravity", that doesn't change the fact that this theory represents reality in best possible way. And evolution is a fact and a theory at same time. Earth is a globe, factually.
And as you like to go by definitions, then, definition for fact is: a thing that is known or proved to be true.
Scientific theories in most cases have been proven to be true, yes, most, not all, doesn't mean that those which got proven are not factual while still being called a theory.
And to make it even more clear, there is no possibility for evolution to be false because that one was proven to be a fact.
So yea... No idea why you tried to lower science and what you tried to achieve here, but well, you failed. Care to explain why you tried to do that?
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@a_mustache_of_great_repute
"I'm not trying to knock science down, I'm trying to lift it back up"
Science doesn't need a lift up, it never was as high as it is right now...
"We don't even KNOW what's at the bottom of the ocean or the core of our own planet, but we try to say we know what's in space?"
Yes?... And we do know what is the core of our planet and we do have quiet good idea what is on bottom of our oceans. Space in comparison to those two is easy to check, atleast if you are talking about space and not the entire universe...
"Its silly on the face of it, not to seek the answers, but to claim to have them. "
? So by your logic you cant even say that you have answers? So you basically saying that you know nothing?
"You think I'm attacking science and I'm just not"
i have no idea what your point here is in general as you are all over the place.
"All I'm saying is, when a scientist says a black hole is a point of super density, i say "could be". And as someone who loves science i don't understand how it can be anything except "could be". "
Ether you have no idea what science is or you seriously have no idea that argument from authority is a fallacy... Even if you can find scientist who says that black hole is super density, that doesn't mean that science as a whole says that. And your personal opinion that it could be, well, cool, you have your opinion, but that super density is actually supported by evidence and not some fuzzy feelings in your balls.
"Granted, i do have my doubts about macroevolution"
So another thing you have no knowledge about then, evolution. Micro and macro evolution have only ONE difference: time scale. To put it in analogy, micro is one second and macro is one year. So for you to say that seconds exist but it will never end up as a year is just silly and ignorant, at best.
"No stages with half formed limbs on their way in or out"
personal ignorance is not evidence for anything. Mudskipper, fish which can live on land and "walk" on its fins. You literally have transitional form which is alive today and you complain that you can see any on fossil records... C'mon...
"I'm saying i have enough doubt that i can't call it fact"
And? Reality is not driven by your personal opinion. You are literally commenting under the video which talks about people who thinks that earth is flat... So its clearly a fact that some ones personal opinion doesn't determine reality.
"as long as their are such massive gaps in the fossil record"
Generic creationist excuse... "Look there is a gap between those 2" we find fossil fitting in that gap "look, there are 2 gaps with missing links"... your personal ignorance is not evidence for anything.
"is why do you insist on being so defensive of scientists when you claim to be defensive of science?"
I'm not defensive towards scientists, as i'm not you i will not go with argument from authority, what i'm advocating here is fact based reality basing your reality on all the evidence we have to day and not simply say "Well i cant understand this so it must be false. That's how we got religions and that's why we had dark ages. Science is best current method in determining what is true or most likely to be true, if you can come up with better method, go for it, until then you have nothing to complain here.
"A scientist should be able to hear "you could be wrong" and say "could be"."
Not on factual reality. Could you be wrong about shape of earth? Could it be concave? Could it be in a shape of unicorn? How many laws of physics you would need to break to get those answers as reality? Is it a fact that earth is globe? Should we be open minded and say "it could be a unicorn"?
"and that I'm attacking science itself when that is plainly not the case"
You are trying to discredit or atleast lower scientific stance by exposing your ignorance on basic things, nothing more.
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@chris73brown
"Basic observation of the sun shows goes from one end to the other over flat land"
Will list 4 things about sun which matches 100% to globe model and missmatch 100% flat one:
1. Sun moves at constant speed. I know that sun isint moving, but earth rotates, but you got idea. Due to flat earth model sun should get closer until noon, so perceived speed should change, but its not
2. Sun doesnt change perceived size. On flat earth model sun gets closer until noon and further away after that, so on flat earth model it should change size.
3. Sun moves in a straight line. On flat earth model sun circles around, which is not what we observe in reality.
4. Sunset/sunrise. On flat earth model sun always remains above surface which would prevent it from ever going under the horizon.
Those are 4 basic things about sun which disproves flat earth. Not even talking about dozens of others things, with actual calculations and tests. But this is my go to due to its simplicity, but well, as flat earthers has 0 understand how geometry works, even this flies over their heads.
" Take note: U came back ruding me after l was just giving a summary from both sides and not ruding noone so...
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Like I said, you personal ignorance isint evidence for anything. Just because you cant understand why earth is a globe and trying to place both sides on same level, will not make it so. Flat earth claim is just empty assertion, globe is proven fact. Those cant be compared by any reasonable person.
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