Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "Bernie Sanders"
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Kommisar 1) In the book, Kropotkin does the math to figure out how much work it would take for each person to do the work to produce enough food for everyone. While he didn't use the term field trip, his idea was that it would be a fun excursion of two or three days a year for people to produce food.
2) I am well aware that we don't live in an agrarian society. The point is that with no money, no government, and no organization, distributing the food that gets produced becomes a lot less efficient. I could also ask who is going to maintain the roads so that the supply chain can continue to get the food to people.
3) You completely sidestepped the question of the accumulation of wealth. There will always be some way to measure the exchange of goods and services. Some people are better at managing the same amount. Therefore, those people will end up with a surplus. Eventually, someone who is not as good at handling money (I am using it as a general term for whatever society uses as the measurement for goods and services, even if not cash as we know it, so I am not talking about a semantic argument) or has some misfortune fall will need assistance. If there is no government, and over time the people who are really good at handling money are able to accumulate (and no government means no taxation or way to confiscate such wealth) to the point where people come to them. The cycle repeats itself. You cannot stop the accumulation of wealth without a government, period. Unless you want everyone to barely have enough to survive, but based on your response to the second point, you clearly don't.
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@marconapolitano2821 I'm sorry, based on your initial comment on a video decrying tax shelters for the obscenely wealthy and the pseudo-populist tone of your other comment, I thought I was dealing with an anarcho-socialist. I now realize that I responded to the wrong type of Underpants Gnomes thinking and that you are a right-wing libertarian. This will make me more informed about what I am responding to.
1) The Conquest of Bread is a famous book in anarchist circles. When mentioning his ideal society, the author says that most work will be unnecessary, as would be the divide between rural and urban. He uses some basic math to figure out how much work it would take per person in order to provide enough food for the population and insists that such work would be joyful, but call it a hunch, I don't think many will volunteer for shoveling manure. Since I initially misread you, that's what I was responding to.
2) And how does charity work on the aggregate? Before the New Deal, 2/3 of Americans over 65 lived in poverty, and this was fairly constant. With Social Security, senior poverty is now 10%. The begging everyone on GoFundMe does not provide all of our needs.
3) And what was the literacy rate and the percentage of the adults who graduated high school when private companies controlled schools? How long did it take to drive across the United States when private companies built roads, and what was their state of repair?
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Kommisar At least I know a) the difference between embarrasses and embarrassing, b) that right wing talking points don't get lefties to say "you're right, I should never post again" on a lefty channel, and c) I have actually read The Conquest of Bread, so I know what I'm criticizing. Apparently, you don't seem to understand when someone is critical of something, either.
And again, the projected shortfall is easy to overcome. If the cap were doubled, it would be eliminated. If it were eliminated completely, it would more than double the projected deficits (which are based on a moderately pessimistic version of economic growth, anyway). I, for one, and confident that we can average over half of the GDP growth that we have averaged over the past 75 years, and that is where the projected shortfall estimates arise.
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