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@dr1flush But by the Definition seen there, Fascism would be Socialism.
The definition does not state what the people are made up of. If say the nation was literally one "Race" they would be the people, so regardless it would still be a form of Socialism. Maybe not the form many would like.
TIK has made it quite clear, the National Socialism, is not Fascism, nor is it not Marxism, nor is it Classical Socialism like that of the Social Democrats, but it is National Socialism, which is a FORM of Socialism, not the same, but still Socialism. Socialism is the State control of the means of production which all those definitions make quite clear.
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@dr1flush Socialism is more of a tree than a box with branches that can be radically different as they spread farther from eachother. Similar to Christianity and Islam believing in the same god, there is no written rule that states a Racial Socialist isn't a Socialist vs a Class Socialist, or Nationality Socialist (Fascism), or a Sexist Socialist. etc etc.
Socialism is the common core that links them together, some of them are worse than others, while some are vary mild. A Libertarian Socialist believe in Free Market Capitalism, private property, limited state control over people, etc etc but are very supportive of socialist style state welfare programs as just one example, they're Socialist, but no where near as extreme Socialist like Marxist, Fascist, or Nazis.
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@andreialexandrunichiforel Personally for how bad the USSR was terminally wounded by Nazi Germany, in a fashion they never recovered according to TIK's video on the post WWII Soviet Economy, when taken into consideration how little resources the Nazis had at their disposable. Even if Hitler became a painter, honestly the USSR was always doomed to fail, just like Nazi Germany.
So a RA Hell March Scenario is a technical impossibility. If WWII didn't start and say the USSR decided to start WWII, imagine Finland, but on a larger scale, on a larger front, against more countries, the red army likely would of been obliterated, maybe not everywhere, but everywhere in which the country had competent armies/officers, even if small, as they didn't get that Finland experience to realize how F***ed up their military was. If Finland was a disaster, a larger scale version of it could of ruined the USSR.
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A Rock and Hard plate is a good description of the civilians trapped between the USSR and National Socialist Germany. I've often described it as being stuck between an anvil and a hammer. For example one description I often describe about Ukraine. You had pro Communist Partisans, Pro Nationalist Partisans, Pro German Partisans, AntiSemites among all their ranks. If you helped the Germans you were likely going to get murdered by Nationalist, or Communist Partisans. If you helped the Nationalist Partisans the Communist, Pro German and German forces would likely kill you. If you helped the Communist, the Nationalist, Pro German and Germans would likely kill you. If you refused to help anyone and tried to be neutral they'd likely accuse of you treason still and likely kill you. So I ask, if you were a farmer, and someone came by asking for food, what are your options? There are reasons why German patrols would come across farm villages completely empty of life after a ruckus was made by the partisans, and there are reasons why many fled with the Germans when the Germans retreated as well. These people were not given many options, and often punished for actions beyond their control. You can imagine a German Patrol forcefully taking food/livestock from your farm, then the partisans come by and find out your live stock is gone, and much of your food when they themselves came by wanting the same, imagine their reaction when you say the Germans took them, some of them would likely accuse you of treason. Imagine if the Germans came by and found out you allowed partisans to do the same, they would accuse you of aiding the enemy.
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I think one of the biggest issues people often have is they fail to understand what Nationalism even is. A Nation is an Identity, not lines on a map. It can mean almost anything under the sun when you break it down. Why do you think almost every Community thrives to make flags to represent themselves? Because they've created a Nation. They've not created the Nation State that they live under, they're often hostile toward the Nation State. But they've created their own nation within an already existing Larger Nation. The Nation State system has been confused with Nationalism, and many people actually think Nationalism is exclusively racist or Statist. Which isn't really true. A lot of Nations have no "State." But the Nation exist. Many Nations existed as slaves of other larger States, and throughout most of European history there were no Nation States, the Nation existed under the surface ruled by Monarchs and Lords who often had little in common with the people's they ruled. Why today is the era of the Nation State is because most of those Communities formed their own "States" often built around some kind of similar Identity, ie Nations, Nation States. But this happened after the fall of Monarchism, so their National Identity was the glue used and at times failed when forming their new "States" again hence Nation States.
In this context, the Working Class is an Identity, it is a Nation. As TIK has explained many times, it actually makes Marxist Nationalist who mascaraed as Internationalist. Because Marxist don't understand what a Nation even is. You see this with a lot of Leftist today who are obsessed with Pride Flags, they literally created their own Nations, their own Identities, and proudly go around parading it in front of other people's faces. They're Nationalist even if they refuse to admit it.
Nationalism in short is a very gray, murky word when you really break down what it means to be a "Nation." The American Nation for example wasn't built around Ethnic or Racial Lines. American Nationalism as little to do with Race, though some white supremacist, and black supremacist will argue otherwise from opposing camps. Nationalism doesn't = Racism in short, but Nationalism can equal Racism. Today many consider Nationalism and Racism to be the same thing which is just so blatantly wrong that it openly shows those who think that, literally fail to comprehend what a Nation even is.
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