Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Luke Smith" channel.

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  9.  @bibekgautam512  "But I certainly do listen to experts" - Which experts? Experts can have biases. Experts can be put under pressure. You mean you listened to a talking head on TV. But if you take the time to read the literature you'll see that cloth masks are only effective - about 60 percent - when made from multiple layers and multiple types of fabric to combine mechanical and electrostatic filtering, and nobody wears those because they're hot and restrict breathing. Surgical masks are disposable, and most people are reusing them. Surgical masks need to be replaced due to humidity, nobody's switching masks after wearing them for hours. Nobody's using masks like PPE, and incorrectly worn PPE gives the wearer a false sense of security. People are touching the masks. And most of all, the masks are meant to stop droplets when everyone's worrying about aerosol transmission. Any unsealed area will just allow aerosols to jet out of your mask. "And experts largely agree on the usefulness of the masks." - No, they don't. They told you they didn't work when this whole thing started. "And what you said about exhaling - that's such a slippery slope of an argument." - It's not a slippery slope. How is it a slippery slope when we've already seen people brutalized by state agents over masks? If you claim my breath is dangerous right now even though I am healthy, you have no moral standing to say your breath is no longer dangerous a year from now. There's no slippery slope, only consistency. Since we're criticizing fallacies, you might want to stop using arguments from authority and shut up about experts.
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  47.  @tkmonson  "Your personal experience does not match everyone else's experience." - What does that even mean? Yeah, I had a personal experience with my ban, but even the people who burn through multiple accounts on twitter or whatever and don't care end up changing some of their behavior so they can last longer and engage more people. I'm not just interjecting some specific anecdote, this is almost universal. I was part of the Deterrence Dispensed subreddit and the nuking of that place had repercussions on other subreddits, which now take care to not do the same things that allowed Reddit to come up with a BS excuse to nuke the place. It's a shock collar and punishment discourages certain behaviors. "Yes, they CAN do that, but they don't." - But they do. I've seen this happen on communities about anything. You enter a subreddit, try to explain why someone's wrong, instantly banned. Or if they're nicer, you get downvoted to hell. "All human groups have the potential for good or bad." - Whoa, tremendous piece of information. Sure, groups can be good or bad. That's not the point at all. The problem is when you create these levers that drop treats and shock collars that punish, and condition people to the point that dissent is seen as an assault on the place that needs to be dealt with. In traditional social situations people can have simple disagreements and still be polite towards one another and if you're in a group you can always talk things over. I'll say it, we're not meeting each other on neutral ground. People reading this thread are probably more likely to agree with me than you. The thing is, this is YouTube so nobody gives a shit, I could get 50 likes and that wouldn't affect you at all. But if we had an argument on reddit in my home turf you could get ganged up on and lose a ton of karma for every post. You can say "I'm smarter than this, the numbers don't affect me" but if you then want to post on a subreddit that requires a minimum karma to post, you'll either have to farm it (probably just post Trump's face and text saying "Blonald Drumpf is the worst!") or create a new account. And you'll be more careful with your disagreements with that account. Right there your behavior is already being manipulated to fall in line, even if you consciously recognize you're walking on eggshells and that account isn't the real you.
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