Comments by "Titanium Rain" (@ChucksSEADnDEAD) on "Mark Felton Productions" channel.

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  28.  @hunter35474  "there were probably multiple MiGs that got away" - You can't make that assertion. You have no facts to back it up any more than I could reply by simply saying "probably not" and moving on. The earlier Phantom losses occurred when USAF Phantoms flying in blind with no radar coverage were flying at a slower pace to escort bombers and fell into ambushes where Vietnamese MiGs came around the border and did high speed passes for a hit and run attack. The MiGs got away not because of lack of guns, but because there was no chance for the F-4s to accelerate and catch up to them. Let alone get a gun kill. Not to mention that the gun kill is much more difficult to score, and airplanes carried multiple missiles. Even though failure rates were abysmal, a second missile would do a lot more than maneuvering for a gun kill. Either way, early missile failure rates were not just caused by their unreliability, but also because pilots were firing missiles outside of proper launch parameters and ground crews were mishandling the weapons. After extra training for the pilots and ground crews, the issues were not fully resolved but were greatly minimized. Phantoms flying combat patrols and looking for MiGs instead of escorting other aircraft had a good kill ratio. The gun wasn't that big of a deal. "where a gun would've given an easy kill" - Guns are not easy kills. In fact there were squadron leaders who did not authorize their pilots to fly with gun pods because they knew they did not have enough training to put them to good use. "the fact that the next generation of fighters (The Teen Series)" - Two of them are multirole fighters and thus may have to use the gun for ground strafing. One of the use of gun pods on the F-4 was actually the USMC fitting one under the belly and two under the wings to let loose on the ground. Not for air to air combat. "they DID learn their lesson" - Okay, which lesson was that? You're attributing a mostly false narrative as the reason for a decision to be made when there are more logical reasons behind that decision. While aerial gunnery is an important part of pilot training it's generally assumed that in the real world if you get into a gun fight you and your wingmen already made a series of bad decisions to let the situation get to that point. Especially with high off bore axis missiles being a thing.
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