Comments by "Triple 9" (@Betta66) on "The Democrats Have Already Failed at Impeachment" video.
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@Rose Quartz No, I am not wrong. If all of the facts are on your side, then no one here should have any issue presenting them and letting them speak for themselves. But that's not what happens. 99% of the time, a Styx subscriber will either say they don't have to show any evidence because they don't have any, they show evidence from a "news" outlet with just as little credibility as CNN, or they take an article that unambiguously contradicts them and they deliberately misinterpret it.
I know for a fact the number of Obama voters who voted for Trump is just barely in the double digits, so stop using it as a "gotcha" response. Your fellow Trump ass kissers have told me on multiple occasions to kill myself in misspelled messages, so don't give me your bullshit about how I'm hateful and retarded and all the "normal" people are voting for Trump. Need I remind you that Trump has cheated on all of his wives and, according to YOUR OWN PARTY, lying about adultery by itself counts as an impeachable offense. And oh yeah, there was no one else in the room when Clinton was ruining Monica's dress, so that "no eyewitnesses" line you use for the Ukraine scandal is bullshit. If you were a normal person, you wouldn't happily defend a criminal and parrot his lies. Why would it matter what you think about me when you never think in the first place?
You never had any facts on your side and you never will.
You are nothing.
Fuck you.
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nowonyuno "If they helped Trump win then how did they know to go to Wisconsin and Hillary didn't"
I shouldn't be surprised that you have to resort to logical fallacies to feel like you're winning.
"You have repeated every broken talking point"
Broken by who? The same side that keeps getting theirs leaked?
"he is dead to you people because he failed you"
He's a Republican hired by a Republican president's Republican Deputy Attorney General at a time when every branch of government was controlled by Republicans. The Democrats had nothing to do with his involvement. You know why you think he failed? You parrot the same talking points Trump fed you: "No collusion!" Collusion has no specific legal meaning in criminal law. There are collusive acts, but there's no crime called "collusion." It's like if you committed arson but your lawyer argued you were innocent because there's no crime called "setting houses on fire." Yes, Mueller found Trump didn't directly corroborate with the Russians. He also stated that Trump wasn't innocent of obstructing justice. And oh yeah, our elections face security risks your pimp has never attempted to address.
"The republicans hate Trump so you whining about them makes no sense"
They let him run as a Republican. His biggest defenders are Republicans. If they hate him so much, then you forfeit the right to praise him as a master negotiator. Think about it. If he can't even negotiate with his own party, what good is he?
"Why would Putin want a political novice like Trump when he knows Hillary could be bought and paid for"
Yes, why would Putin want someone who doesn't know what they're doing and can be easily manipulated?
"How come you never want to talk about her smashing her devices with hammers and deleting emails?"
Whataboutism was a popular propaganda tool in the Soviet Union. Also, one of Hillary's aides destroyed her devices, not Hillary herself. If you cared about facts as much as you pretend to, you'd know that.
"She actually committed crimes and you act like it never happened."
Your guy promised to hire a special prosecutor to investigate her. If she's so guilty, he should've made good on his word as soon as he was sworn in. But he didn't, so don't get mad at me for his incompetence.
"If Trump had deleted one email you mutts would lose your damn minds."
https://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-report-trump-campaign-deleted-information-relevant-to-probe-2019-4
"Turn off Rachael Moscow"
I already don't watch her, liar.
You're worthless.
Try again.
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@Warren_Peace 1. Imagine if Trump won the popular vote but Hillary won the Electoral College. We both know you wouldn't accept the results.
2. You have less than nothing. I know because you haven't presented a single fact.
3. All of this is bullshit.
3a. Trump is a serial liar and a criminal no less sleazy and dishonest than anyone else in Washington.
3b. While polls are not Word of God, multiple polls show Trump losing the general election to several Democratic candidates:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/
3c. Your pimp is already extremely disingenuous, so how is that an issue now?
3d. The Democrats won Kentucky, Virginia and Louisiana this month - all red states. Try again.
4. "I've seen insecure white men play the victim. You don't do yourself any favors by talking exactly like a mass shooter recording a manifesto."
4. "Now that is racist and sexist, also you seem to have forgotten that Leftists include white men mass shooters with manifestos... So it does not only fail to disprove his claim, it also makes you look like an ignorant dick.
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See? My point exactly. As for "leftists" being mass shooters, I can only think of two cases that could possibly apply. There's the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter who Styx himself claimed without evidence was a Communist. And there's the Dayton shooter, who, yes, was a liberal, but local police stated the shooting was not politically motivated. Also, the latter never left a manifesto, but the former did write things on Gab like:
"HIAS [Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society] likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I'm going in."
Does whining about "white genocide" sound like something a leftist would do?
Try again.
5. "State governorship does not equate to which side the State would lean on come Presidential Elections. Trumps overwhelming victory against all odds in 2016 even in States controlled by Democrat Governors shows that...
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That goes both ways. Illinois and Massachusetts had Republican governors and yet their states voted for Hillary.
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nowonyuno 1. There is literally nothing you have told me that I didn't already hear from Styx's subscribers or Styx himself. You have no original thoughts; you're not better than me.
2. Why should I indulge you and answer your question about Warren and Biden when everything you said screams that you're not pulling your head out of Trump's ass to listen to other people's views?
3. Trump inherited a good economy from the guy who brought us out of a recession. If you cared as much about facts as you pretend to, you'd know that.
https://www.businessinsider.com/9-charts-comparing-trump-economy-to-obama-bush-administrations-2019-9#job-growth-another-key-labor-market-measure-followed-a-similar-pattern-the-great-recession-destroyed-millions-of-jobs-per-quarter-but-the-economy-has-steadily-added-around-200000-jobs-per-month-since-president-obamas-second-term-3
4. "None of you morons are trying to sell us on your trash in the DNC. We get it, you dont like him, but you can't explain why your people are any better."
What does it matter? You're not voting Democrat anyway; you'll stick to Trump no matter how much he lies or fails to prosecute Hillary.
5. "I dont care if Trump hurts your feelings soy flake, that's not a good enough reason to fire him"
Breaking campaign finance law, lying on an hourly basis, cheating on his wife and lying about it . . . yeah, those seem like good reasons to distrust a president. Maybe you should try actually talking to a Democrat every now and then and pay attention instead of making baseless assumptions. Also, Trump is the guy who brags about how much he whines, so shut the fuck up about feelings.
6. "And likewise giving the job to Pedo Joe because he's a 'nice guy' isn't a good reason."
I can definitely tell you've never actually conversed with a Democrat because A) you defend a guy who groped underaged models and once said of a ten-year-old girl "I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?”, and B) I have never heard anyone say they support Joe Biden simply because he's a "nice guy."
7. "Trump is a prick but he gets things done. If he didn't you would be attacking him on the economy but you're not."
I already did, liar. Now where's the border wall? Where's the special prosecutor he promised would investigate Hillary? Where are the libel laws he promised to reopen? Where are the lawsuits he said he would file against his sexual assault accusers? Nowhere, that's where. North Korea announced it would stop holding talks with the U.S. because they didn't want to give Trump something to brag about. He withdrew troops from Syria just because Erdogan asked and then sent them right to Saudi Arabia. So what accomplishments are you talking about?
8. "So all you got is orange man bad and its pathetic. Fuck your feelings beta flake"
I was right. You don't pay attention because everything I just said proved that to be completely bullshit.
Now fuck off.
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@Warren_Peace All that Trump described as "new" border wall built so far are replacements for existing barriers. The work includes building steel bollard fencing, which consists of vertical steel posts with a small amount of space between them.
It is not, however, the solid wall Trump promised during the campaign.
There is a new eight mile stretch of border barriers being built, but it took - what? - three years to get started. I seem to recall that Trump signed an executive order on his fifth day in office to make a border wall. Why the wait? Democratic opposition? Pfft, nah. He brags about what a great negotiator he is and he used to be a registered Democrat. If he were competent, it wouldn't take that much effort to get them on his side. No, there are other factors. For example, some of the property along the border is privately owned and there are Texans unwilling to give it up for the wall, and none of the wall prototypes met all CBP requirements.
In short, if Trump won, there's no border wall to show for it.
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@davidlewis6728 "plus i said all politicians were corrupt, so what is your point?"
The phrase "All politicians were/are corrupt" should no longer be allowed to be used by Trump supporters when I clearly remember Trump supporters in 2016 saying they liked him because he wasn't a Washington insider. So is he clean or is he as corrupt as anyone else in Washington?
I'm sure you'll respond with "I didn't call Trump a politician," which is exactly what the problem is and I'm glad we can agree on something.
"when did i say i had your best interests? no, i said it would not be in your best interests to prove my point, and that i doubted your capability to not make yourself look stupid"
No matter what I say, you're going to find some reason to twist it so that it does prove your point without you having to actually disprove anything I claimed.
"honestly, i was setting up a trap that would prove my point, that people with trump derangement syndrome walk into every blatant piece of bait and are great advertisements for trump. thank you for being predictably stupid, you npc moron."
You see? Right there. This is what every single Styx supporter does when they have no evidence to support them. You think after enough time here, I don't pick up on patterns? Keep projecting your failings, asshole. Maybe with enough practice, it'll be the one thing you could be good at.
"i see everything trump says as a lie meant to bring out this kind of reaction"
If this is your excuse, don't tell me I'm below your standards when you clearly don't have any. When Ted Cruz lies, do you see his supporter claiming it's just to get a reaction? No, because there is only one group of people so lacking in standards that they think that excuse is dignified and I'm talking to a card-carrying member of it.
"but since i do not support leftist Hitler"
It's official. You're a joke.
Did you know that Germany already had a socialist party before the German Workers Party changed its name? The name change and those 25 points you're undoubtedly referring to were done before the Nazis rose to power as part of a complicated political strategy known as "lying to win an election." After they won, all the actual socialists were kicked out of the party. So Hitler was not a leftist and you're a stupid liar.
"i must be the strawman you have constructed to represent trump supporters"
Oh, you thought I was going to call you a Nazi. No, I was not. However, I saw one Styx subscriber openly proclaim he was proud to be a National Socialist. What was that thing you said earlier?
"if you are what i think you are, i would use this opportunity to avoid embodying the very thing i am being accused of, else i would consider if it could be turned into a compliment"
Yeah, so if you don't want me to call you a Nazi, don't hang out with them.
"you fucking moron. you dumb, worthless fucking npc moron. i am not even mad. you walked right into my trap EVEN WHEN I POINTED IT OUT TO YOU."
You're giving yourself more credit than you will ever deserve. Stop stroking your ego now before you get calluses, you fucking asshole.
"and you wonder why trump says the things he does? it is just so fucking fun to watch you make yourself look like a fool"
You know, you wouldn't be doing any of this if you had any actual facts to back you up. And if you respond to this comment, you'll prove me right.
"#1 is whataboutism"
Oh, so now you have an issue with it?
"#2 is both irrelevant, and has already been shown to be inaccurate because i said he was LESS corrupt and using lies to mislead YOU.
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Your sentence is grammatically incorrect. It should say "#2 is irrelevant and inaccurate." Anyway, no, #2 is neither because you're still defending a liar.
"#3 that is being contested as we speak, and it is seemingly leaning towards the opposite conclusion, even when you take into account the 'evidence' the other side is emphasizing all the damn time.
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"Members of his administration are corrupt and/or unqualified" is being contested? Sure. Keep telling yourself that.
"#4 ok, everyone who disagrees with the totalitarian communists is a liar, got it.
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Not even close to what I said, you piece of shit. Communism is the abolition of private property, which literally no one in the Democratic Party is advocating. And totalitarianism is complete subservience to the state, which again, no one is advocating. So you're a liar AND a piece of shit.
"#5 the thing that clearly exists.
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No, it does not. I know because unlike you, I've actually met Democrats.
"#6 no, you don't think, stop lying
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Good comeback, Dad. That is WAY more effective than using facts. You're really making me look like a fool.
"#8 'this isn't about being a sore loser'
proceeds to claim that Hilary should have won. at least trump admitted he would only accept the results if he won, what has Hilary been up to since she lost, again?
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In a perfect world, Hillary would not have been the nominee. But since she was, and more people voted for her, what sense does it make to say the current president is duly elected when he lost the majority of votes? And of course Trump would only accept the results if he won. Every time he endorsed a candidate who lost, he either throws them under the bus (Roy Moore) or pretends he never knew them by, for example, deleting tweets in support of him (Sean Spicer).
"#9 yes, everyone who disagrees with the Russian collusion narrative from the totalitarian communists is a radical conspiracy theorist.
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You are a shitty listener, you know that? First of all, "collusion" has no specific legal meaning in criminal law. There are collusive acts, but there is no crime called "collusion." It'd be like if you committed arson, but when you went to court, your lawyer argued "Your Honor, my client is innocent as there is no such crime called 'setting houses on fire'." So even if Trump was found 100% guilty of corroborating with the Russians, he'd still say "But I didn't collude" and you would buy it because you're a predictable piece of shit. What was found, however, is that Russians interfered in a federal election to help Trump win, and Trump was not exonerated from obstruction of justice charges. This was repeated multiple times by a Republican prosecutor hired by a Republican president's Republican Deputy Attorney General at a time when all branches of government were controlled by Republicans. Just saying.
"#10 you see, i was right, you aren't capable of being reasonable even after i warn you of my intentions. are you a troll or something?"
Fuck you. You were never intent on being "reasonable."
"i know the far left is pretty fucking stupid in general"
Shut up, you stupid Jeb supporter.
Didn't like that?
Thought not.
So don't call me far left, Jeb.
"but every time i interact with you people"
Bullshit. You don't interact with anyone on the left, liar.
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@davidlewis6728 "love it how you claim victory solely off of an impotent so called trap"
You mean like what you're doing?
"the trap has to actually prove something!"
You should follow your own advice because your "trap" did no such thing.
"if you want to respond to the trap without getting snared, you must respond in a way that is not indicative of the trap"
You mean like what you failed to do? In the middle of my previous comment, I said you were a shitty listener and that you were squarely intent on trying to "own" me instead of using facts or just, you know, paying attention to my words. I said that if you were truly paying attention, you wouldn't reply. But more importantly, the key to a successful trap is to not reveal it to the intended target. You failed at even that, therefore all your supposed expertise on traps is as bullshit as everything else you've said.
"if you tried to go point by point on why trump is bad, why the dems are better, and why trump is not just being a troll with his presidency then that would be one thing"
Except you're such an ass kisser for Trump that I could list hundreds of valid complaints - like, for example, how Trump once promised to donate nearly $3 million raised from a charity fundraiser for military veterans, but used the money for his own campaign, i.e. embezzlement - and you would find some excuse for why it doesn't count. If I happen to be wrong and you're not in fact blindly defending Trump, don't reply.
"but responding with baseless accusations and 'no u' retorts pretty much proves you are angry"
That's what you've been doing this whole time. You don't seem to have a problem with it, so shut up, hypocrite.
"but you are saying someone is better than him"
Did I say someone was better than him? Check my previous comments. Where did I make that my thesis? No, my underlying point is that while I don't expect you to switch parties just because someone online said so, if Trump did something that you take issue with when anyone else does it, you should at the very least be equally angry about it.
"in conclusion, i annihilate libtard feelings with logic and facts"
You've never done that. You will never do that because you never had logic and facts in the first place. You'd use them if you had them, but you don't.
"and the left can't do anything right, especially meme."
You can't even set up a trap right, you incompetent dipshit.
"your move, retarded moron."
Ask yourself this: are you trying to prove that you're right or are you trying to prove that you're an asshole? You fail at the former and succeed at the latter, and I know that will never change.
Fuck you, commie.
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@davidlewis6728
"my trap did exactly what it was meant to do, predict your actions and make fun of them before you even had the chance to do them"
By your own words, the trap has to actually prove something. Your trap proved nothing.
"it is one thing to say 'ha, you activated my trap card' and an entirely different thing to say 'if you do this, you will activate my trap card, but since i know you will inevitably have to do this, i am going to inform you about it just to mock you when you inevitably fall for it'"
That's exactly what I did when I told you not to respond, but you're still doing it, so again, all you're doing is proving me right.
"if i said tds existed and leaved it at that"
It's "left," not "leaved." You can't even insult me right.
"by telling you to watch your step it becomes your responsibility to not be a dumbass, and your failure to avoid the trap would be seen as an incapability on your part, not just some stupid trick i used to feel good about myself"
Again, exactly what I did. And you keep proving me right.
"and i never claimed to be good at traps, i only pointed out how bad you were at them, and you proved my point further by not understanding what kind of trap this was"
See, this is why it's bullshit when you think all I do is project. This is textbook projection. You didn't trap me, you didn't prove a point, and you never presented a single fact that could make you seem even remotely knowledgeable. You're a loser and a failure.
"the secrecy of the trap is a way to increase the likelihood of it's success, but if it can be done without it, that is what the internet refers to as a flex on your competence, which is what i have done."
No, you have not. Again, by your own rules, a trap should prove something. And you didn't.
"the thing on trump embezzling the military is an interesting point, i haven't found anything on it yet, would you kindly provide a link to more detail?"
Before I do...
"you really don't understand how this works, do you? if i responded by saying trump embezzling the military is fine because trump has good intentions, or because it is trump and not someone else then you would have a point."
No, with this, you'd likely respond by saying "What about when this Democrat did such and such?" I've spoken to Styx subscribers enough to have pattern recognition.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-trump-foundation/trump-must-pay-2-million-for-misusing-namesake-charity-new-york-judge-idUSKBN1XH2NE
"provide an example please. when i call you a hypocrite, i do it with what i assume are your own values, i don't think i have ever actually criticized you for doing something i was doing, or if i was, i did not notice that i was doing it. so again, please provide citation."
You want to know how you're a hypocrite? You said I wasn't "much of a debater" when your idea of a debate is openly announcing a trap to your intended target instead of just, I don't know, actually having a debate.
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