Comments by "Triple 9" (@Betta66) on "Trump Sues to Prevent Financial Record Disclosure to House" video.
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@too_short_cortetm8507 Here are a few claims I've found as supporting evidence for Obama's birth certificate being fake.
1. "African-Americans were referred to as 'Negroes' at the time, so why was Obama's race listed as 'African-American' when the term wasn't in use yet?"
Because the term "African-American" isn't on the birth certificate. Obama's father's race is listed as "African," which at the time described people who were actually born in Africa like his father was.
2. "At the time of Obama’s birth in 1961, his father was 25, and it says he was born in 'Kenya, East Africa'. Kenya did not exist until 1963. Before then, it was the 'British East Africa Protectorate.' How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist?"
It's true that Kenya did not achieve complete independence from the United Kingdom until 1963. But it was known as the "Kenya Colony" from 1920 onward and was typically referred to as Kenya long before 1963. Hundreds of news reports from 1961 can be found referring to it simply as "Kenya."
3. "The listed place of birth is the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called 'Kaui Keolani Children’s Hospital' and 'Kapi’olani Maternity Home', respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until the two hospitals merged in 1978. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
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The former Kapi’olani Maternity Home was known as the Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital from 1931 to 1971, at which point its name was shortened to Kapi’olani Hospital. Obama wasn't born in the Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital; it was a separate entity which merged with the Kapi’olani Hospital in 1978 to become the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children. If you look, you can find a listing of social services available in Hawaiian documents showing that the facility bore that name prior to 1961. Moreover, a copy of a birth certificate issued to a child born in Honolulu one day after Obama also shows “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” listed in the “Name of Hospital” field.
4. "Opening the file in Adobe Illustrator reveals multiple layers."
That's from common, off-the-shelf scanning software, not forgery.
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@Joonixx (groan)
You know, this is the second time today that I had to explain someone here what the issue is with Trump not releasing his tax returns. It's a lose-lose situation with you, isn't it? Nothing I say sticks and when I repeat myself in the hopes that something will, I get called an NPC. But here we go again.
I'm calling bullshit on Trump because of his two main excuses for not releasing them.
One, he's not releasing them because he's under audit. There is literally no law preventing anyone from releasing their tax returns while under audit. Even Richard Nixon released his tax returns under audit, so don't tell me Trump is innocent when he lost the moral high ground to Richard Fucking Nixon.
But more importantly, he's not releasing them because he's not legally required to. I already acknowledge that there is no law mandating that citizens release their financial records or taxes. If Trump didn't want to release them because he felt he didn't have to, that would be fine. It would only be a problem if he wasn't a total fucking hypocrite about it. I made the comparison to Obama because A) Trump expected him to release his college papers while he was making his personal fixer threaten his own schools not to release his grades, and B) Trump had mocked Obama on Twitter multiple times for hiding records. Here's one from July 17, 2012: "Why would @BarackObama be spending millions of dollars to hide his records if there was nothing to hide?" Here's another one from that same day: "For the sake of transparency, @BarackObama should release all his college applications and transcripts--both from Occidental and Columbia." Here's one from October 30 of that year: "Why does Obama believe he shouldn't comply with record releases that his predecessors did of their own volition? Hiding something?"
Trump should just come right out and say "I'm never releasing my tax returns because I just don't want to." At least that would be more honest than saying he's under audit (which doesn't prevent anyone from releasing their tax returns) or insisting he's not legally required to (which wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't a fucking hypocrite).
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