Comments by "canucktunes" (@canucktunes) on "Journeyman Pictures" channel.

  1. More manipulative language addressed by a previous comment. You have been brainwashed into limiting your logic to the propaganda they've given to you. You are vilifying people with stereotypes as an argument and you've clearly failed in my case so it's time for you to move on.
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  2. I thought this comment would link back but it doesn't. :( I just noticed another one of my comments is missing. I posted it an hour ago.
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  3. How did you come to an estimate of "thousands" ? That's a 14% rate on an unknown amount of seals that suffered a blow to the face or non-symmetrical blow to the cranium, from a hakapik. To estimate the amount of seals this could be applied to you'd need to reduce the amount of seals hunted by those shot, which is a large amount. Then you'd need to reduce it further by the number of seals that have had numerous blows because this rate is on seals that suffered single blows.
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  4. XB70Playboy confirmed that the vast majority of the seals that are hunted are 1 to 3 months old. They swim a 4 weeks.
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  5. I know this video said that but in reality it's hype. Observers licenses have been required for years and the licensees are allowed to film whatever they like, provided they don't interfere with the hunt and stay 50 meters away from the hunters. IFAW actually flew in a day prior to receiving their license and they weren't stopped. I also quoted a Globe and Mail article in the comments of this video confirming licenses were issued. (cont)
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  6. "Vilify me. Go ahead. I dare you. You don't have an edge to catch." Nice posturing ! LOL ! You mean all of those edges that I caught don't count now ? Like the fact that most of your accusations in my regards were knee jerk assumptions that made no logical sense and were actually defensive. Like how you don't know where to get stats on the DFO site and think white coats were part of the commercial hunt until 1996. I've seen this all before newbie. I've been here since 2006. Next...
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  7. Yeah, he did it all over the place and now his second account has been suspended. I think the thumbs up thing should go. I don't see the point of thumbing something up only to have some coward with numerous accounts thumb it down, over and over again.
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  8. I didn't miss it. Posturing is just not relevant to the subject.
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  9. Lorraine, these boycotts failed in 2006 because they don't make sense. Red Lobster doesn't import seafood from Newfoundland - It's on their site. Claiming otherwise is counterproductive. Seafood originating from outside of Newfoundland has nothing to do with the seal hunt so a Canadian seafood boycott is like boycotting Disney over Bush in Iraq ! The most efficient boycott is directed at the offender, which isn't Canadian seafood. The states has already banned seal so you've got no target.
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  10. XB70 in his confused state claimed "By "vast majority" the study indicates approx 95%. SO, in the video Jeslain WAS right. YOU were wrong." You had previously claimed that Jeslain stated that 14-15 DAY old seals were the majority. You then proceeded to say : "Says here the vast majority of seals are killed between the ages of 1 to 3 months of age during the slaughter" Are you trying to say that seals aged 1 to 3 months are the same as 14/15 day old pups ? At 4 weeks they swim and hunt !
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  11. (cont) Canada is a progressive country with strict rules in regards to animal cruelty yet here you are comparing us to China. Are you surprised that I mentioned China ? How about if I mentioned Korea ? I'm not quite the easily dismissed goon you've got pictured in your head. I've read the documents in regards to the seal hunt. The evidence in regards to cruelty in the seal hunt is insufficient, regardless of the manipulative conjecture and guilt peddling tactics.
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  12. the Coalition for Fair Lumber Imports is a American lobby group that convinced your government to add illegal levies and tariffs to lumber imports from Canada on this vague idea that it was subsidized. These 5 billion in levies/tariffs were deemed illegal over and over again for years in the international courts yet when the final curtain came they still threaten litigation to reduce the settlement, reducing it to 80%. You can imagine how angry people got when the HSUS's boycott came along...
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  13. (cont) You will need to understand that people eat meat, wear fur/leather and use animal fat. You are so sanctimonious that you will never recognize that people who do this can also oppose cruelty in the processes used to obtain this material. You are peddling guilt where there is none. I have never hunted seal, nor did I kill a puppy. Furthermore I have never eaten veal, nor did I eat spring lamb, nor do I shred male baby chicks alive (like they do in the states). (cont)
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  14. There's a significant problem is the allocation of resources though. Animals that are deemed cute like seals supersede animals that are actually endangered but less attractive. Paul Watson himself spoke of this issue, about seals being an easy sell, in a 1978 CBC radio interview with Barbara Frum. It's actually here on Youtube (search for frum watson 1978).
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  15. Well, it's all been on here since I joined in 2006 so most people have seen these videos, heard the claims and read the documents. They aren't complacent. They aren't for cruelty. They just don't accept conjecture, especially when people get rude and try to guilt them into accepting everything as fact.
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  16. Yup. But it gets iffy from time to time... :-/
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  17. Polarized positions like Democrat or Republican may be the norm in the states but it is quite different in Canada and Europe, where people look deeper into the subject, beyond the two options the activists are limiting the debate to. Hostile manipulations like guilt peddling turn people off. It's as pointless as calling people Nerf herders, especially Canadians because they will likely see how much they spent investigating the problems that they'd demand correction, not abolition.
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  18. Posting URLs here is a bitch. It's on the DFO web site. Look around. You can also view some stats quoted from the DFO on the CBC, CTV and Radio Canada sites, the later being in french. And read the Maritime Mammals Regulations while you're at it. The observers conditions are right there for everyone to read.
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  19. You say one thing, that Paul help keep foreign overfishing at bay, and they claim the opposite, that the sealers are responsible for the overfishing. Paul isn't God. He couldn't have keep all of the foreign fishery away. Everybody knows that overfishing continued after the Canadian fishery was shut down, by foreign fishermen. That is why Greenpeace is protesting the North Sea fishery. The seals aren't being blamed for the cod problem, they're just being hunted as a resource.
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  20. "If you want to hurl insults like "newbie", You have changed the discussion to a battle of wit." This isn't about wit, it's about fact. Where is the damning evidence and why haven't independent observers collaborated it back in 2001. Why would the sealers have changed their routine in 1998, 1999, 2000 ? There was no evidence that they cared about being observed.
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  21. That's why they're considered "neonatal" by some ! Man Alive !
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  22. So, how is the EU Ambassador profiting from it, having claimed he and his government isn't against the Canadian hunt on the CTV news network ? How are the Canadians who voted for a "responsible hunt" in February 2005 profiting from this hunt ? Do you actually think 60% of Canadians have ties to this industry ? Oh yeah. I forgot. You called me a fisherman. LOL ! Hey, have you joined the Facebook group against the seal hunt in Alberta yet ?
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  23. The last dying breaths of a cut & paste spammer that harasses people via their channel comments with crass comments about bestiality. This is the behavior of people who allegedly want to protect seals and claim superior ethics. They lie, they tell people to slander others, they belittle poor people, they ask people to boycott unrelated products, they mislead by editing media reports, they post and say racist and bigoted statements, they abuse the flagging system. Search for "seal hunt" & see
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  24. Oxford University safety data for butyric acid : "Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Corrosive. Extremely unpleasant smell may cause nausea. Liquid may burn skin and eyes. Readily absorbed through the skin. Severe skin, eye and respiratory irritant." Sound quite harmless, doesn't it. I've quoted other chemical data sheets on other videos as well, and this is one of the least graphic one.
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  25. It isn't. It isn't a recreational activity, it isn't being promoted to tourists and the DFO didn't issue new licenses in 2008.
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  26. Who in the hell told you that filming was restricted as a condition of the license !? That's the whole point of an observer's license ! They can't interfere with the hunt and they need to stay 50 feet away from the hunters and their activity. Does that sound unbelievably unreasonable to you for an observer ? Protesters and instigators like Sea Shepherd have no business being on a cold ice flow in the middle of nowhere. They're risking their safety and the safety of others.
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  27. (cont) But new regulations in regards to previous violations of these conditions were amended into the Maritime Marine regulations this year so people that can't be trusted to keep the peace and simply observe will not be issued licenses for a set amount of time (five years from a conviction).
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  28. Quite interesting that the European Food Safety Authority found no credible evidence of widespread cruelty in Canada - Google "EFSA-Q-2007-118". But then the experts hired for IFAW's March 2001 report also failed to establish cruelty from three years of footage. The other claims were also dismissed by several other independent parties, including the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association.
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  29. Yeah. It happen to be published online on a slow day so I read it several times. I've been interested in the subject since 2006. This document does acknowledge problems in the hunt. Just like any industry, there are problems. But after having read the documentation, I'd say a ban is overkill. Especially when they could easily ban the hunting of any seal with any white coat left on it.
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  30. 1 week ? The minimum age of the seals hunted in Canada is two weeks. By then they have stopped drinking their mother's milk and have begun shedding their white coats. You also apparently haven't noticed that most of the seals shown in the actual hunt have no white fur on them at all. That means they are older than three weeks and are not longer "pups". The majority of seals hunted are well into their adolescence and known as "beaters".
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  31. (cont) Paul Irwin of the HSUS gets over $300,000 per year, not including many expenses. John Hoyt of the HSUS gets $200,000 per year, not including various expenses. That's half a million and they're got plenty of vice presidents that collect their own wages. These organizations also divert funds from their programs to other organizations as donations. Some people also hold positions in numerous charities from which moneys are exchanged. Donations can end up anywhere.
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  32. But don't you recognize the whole approach as counterproductive ? Repeating "you condone cruelty" is dismissive and reduces the conversation to nothing. You're practically asking people to accept everything, question nothing or just leave with that kind of behavior.
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  33. LOL ! And the dance ends in the same predictable fashion - The running home with the ball bit. You have no courtesy to offer. All you've done is take jabs at me personally to distract everyone from the fact that you don't have the very evidence that most people require to subscribe to this cause. Who the hell are you trying to impress ? You're acting like this is a battle of wit when this is actually supposed to be a discussion ! Who the hell are you trying to impress ?
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  34. Your examples are just minor inconveniences that do not threaten your livelihood. Farmers regularly poison rats because they eat their produce/seed and ruin crops. Nuisance seals may be cute to you but you wouldn't want them in your nets or traps if you were a fisherman.
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  35. Oh, a "recent poll" ! MY oh MY ! Those can't be misquoted at all. No way. Like the fact that Canadians support a responsible hunt and Sea Shepherd claims this support as theirs by simply claiming the hunt isn't responsible. "POTENTIALLY contaminated meat & oil" OH NO ! SAVE US PAUL ! PART THE SEAS WITH YOUR MIGHTY GARBAGE SCOW ! RAM THEM ! RAM THEM HARD ! This is getting rather tired and stupid sealhuntifawcanada. Your manipulative language is far beyond blatant now.
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  36. That's what I meant. The most endangered should be the priority, regardless of their appearance. Many organizations are using harp seals and bottlenose dolphins to solicit funds, under the pretense and they are somehow threatened, and then diverting those funds elsewhere. And by elsewhere I mean not even to the threatened species. These people are taking way too large a piece of the pie for administration, giving themselves exhortation wages. (cont)
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  37. In 2001 IFAW experts viewed three years of footage and saw no credible evidence of live skinning. Yet the same footage was viewed by others that could swear on a stack of bibles that they saw live skinning. I've seen these people say it and some of them still claim it on their sites, citing the IFAW report as "proof". Videos can come in from more unregulated jurisdictions like Russia. They can be of illegal hunts. We just don't know and some have been invalidated in the past.
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  38. Sea Shepard whined about it's members being "kidnapped" and "held hostage" in Japan, after they boarded a ship illegally. They also whine about damage to their ropes at St. Pierre & Michelon when they've actually put people at harms way by throwing fume causing acids and products that cause people to slip at ships. They're donation hungry wannabe buccaneers. BTW, The going rate for seal is approx $30 per seal.
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  39. Not all that was deemed "progressive" by certain people survived either. The seal hunt is in no way close to the beaver hat trend and seal fur coats will likely be replaced with some other trend. There is no urgency here. The seal is not threatened.
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  40. PETA would say otherwise. They'd use grainy videos to imply this systematic inhumanity in slaughterhouses. And they would say it's all hidden behind closed doors, which sounds somewhat familiar, doesn't it.
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  41. Well, you have edited quotes before to make them say something they didn't and I suspect everything after [this means] is yet another misquote. After all "there was another study" sounds quite vague for an official document. That said, seals do eat some of the Cod's predators but there is so little cod now that that part of their diet is pretty much gone and can't sustain a large seal population. The seals are now eating lots of everything else, to their detriment. The hunt wont end.
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  42. BTW people, sealhuntifawcanada has had his account suspended today and has created this new account to repost his videos and to continue spamming. You'll also notice that my comment was down thumbed by 4 users while his was up thumbed by 4 users, as of 7:30am Eastern.
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  43. These terms and classifications were not invented by the DFO you know. I bet you think they got the name "beater" because they're hunted. It's because of their vigorous swimming !
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  44. You don't appear to understand that the fishing industry in Canada is not by default involved in the sealing industry, so there is no contradiction here. Get a map and look for yourself. Most of our fisheries are isolated geographically from the hunt. the pacific fishery on the other side of the continent and most of the Atlantic fishery would need to travel hundreds to thousands of miles to ice flows in the middle of nowhere. Sounds appealing !
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  45. Notice that they used the term "images" instead of "footage" or "raw footage". And does it sound like they were provided with a significant amount of it ?
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  46. Seals are processed for their meat, fat and fur. The resulting products are distributed domestically and exported. Sealer don't do this alone.
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  47. Squid is served in sushi. I'm somewhat curious to try it but I'm not a big fan of fish. Hmm. Isn't it strange that I'm allegedly a "fisherman" yet I'm not a big fan of fish ? I'm guessing that I wouldn't be too much of a fan of seal meat but I'm not about to rip it out of someone's hands when they eat it. Unlike the harp seal, some sharks are actually threatened. But they aren't as palatable for the media as white coats.
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  48. If ice flow conditions worsen the DFO will likely respond with a significantly reduced TAC, if not a suspension of commercial hunting until recovery is established. Most of the activists don't know much about our media and think the DFO would be able to conceal something. Some even think that the cod thing was all covered up. It wasn't. they had been complaining to Europe for quite some time about overfishing.
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  49. "...the ONLY people who don't find anything wrong with this are the ones making money off it..." Who exactly funded and edited the reports against the hunt ? Well, in the case of IFAW's 2001 report it's IFAW. They funded, organized, edited and published it. It's in the credits. And it was used to solicit donations ! Now, did the EFSA and CVMA reports get funded by the Canadian government, sealing industry or any of their representatives ? No. Did they solicit donations with the reports ? No.
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  50. This makes sense though. When observed subject tend to act differently. We can't assume anything. BUT autopsies showing blood that had been inhaled in the lungs is definite proof that the seal was not properly incapacitated. Random inspections of the processing plants would offer a better sample rate. Long range visual equipment would also also result in more reliable footage.
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