Comments by "Taint ABird" (@taintabird23) on "euronews"
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'Leo, trade talks with the 400m strong eu will be down the queue after talks with the biggest economies in the world and the 2000m strong commonwealth countries'
This is untrue for a number of reasons:
1) The Commonwealth made it clear to the UK in April 2018 that they are not interested in being the UKs Brexit crutch. It is not a trade organisation.
2) The UK is a high end producer. Most of the countries in the Commonwealth are Pacific or Caribbean islands or are in Africa countries and are dirt poor. There's also a lot of black people in these countries that will be looking for visas, Brexit is all about racism. The Commonwealth is not answer to your problems.
3) India, Australia and New Zealand have both said that they are prioritising EU trade deals over deals with the UK - the UK is at the back of the queue. Two countries are already in the EU and are bound by EU law.
4) All of these countries are far away and in international trade distance applies - you trade more with those closer to you because its worth more to you. The value of the UK’s trading relationship with Ireland is higher than the value of UK trade with Italy or Spain, even though the total size of Ireland’s economy is much smaller than Italy’s or Spain’s. You're swapping a four course meal for a packet of crisps.
5) The US is not the answer either as any trade deal with the Americans will be for the benefit of the Americans, not the British. The Americans already pick your Ambassador to Washington and your foreign policy is dictated to a large extent by the US State Department. Your country is vulnerable. It is desperate for a trade deal with a United States ruled by President that wants to Make America Great Again. And you have no trade negotiators.
6) Meanwhile, the Single Market is augmented by preferential trade deals across the world, with countries such as Canada, Japan, MERCOSUR and anothers are pending. The UK has nothing but the safety net of the WTO.
7) The Single Market is worth more the EU than the UK. Failure to understand this has been the single biggest strategic error of Brexit.
Varadkar will be kicked out of office in the future because of his domestic policies and not because of Brexit. When he leaves he will be replaced, but the Ireland's Brexit policy will remain the same. There is consensus that Ireland must stand up for the Belfast Agreement and protect its sovereign national interest.
Enjoy your poverty, and remember you voted for it.
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@eddiel7635 How would Ireland be economically ruined? It will still be in the EU. Certain sectors in Ireland would certainly be damaged, but there is no indication that it would be ruined when it has unfettered access to the SM. Any damage Ireland experiences because of Brexit will be the UKs fault, not the EUs - the UK is the one changing the status quo.
The entire UK economy will not collapse, its internal market is strong and will continue. The overall economy will not function properly though, there will be a flight of capital out of the country, there will be unemployment at a time when personal debt is at its highest in years, increased unemployment, negative price shocks, and political and social unrest. There is zero panic in London because everybody knows that the UK is cannot go for No Deal with the EU because Biden has closed the door on a US-UK trade deal under those circumstances. 46% of your exports are to the EU. There will be a deal, sooner or later. Everybody knows this.
Ever since 2016, Brexiters have been making it up as the go along, pretending they never wanted a deal when in fact they were led to believe they could have any deal they liked because they were so important. When it became apparent that this was not the case, in order to avert humiliation they simply changed the narrative.
Peter Lilly described no deal as 'madness'; Farage said he fancied a Norway-style deal (don't remind him of that now).
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Where to start....
The EU will always stand by its members against outsiders, which is what the UK is now, even though it is still a full member of the EU. It is not Ireland's problem that the UK thought that it was so exceptional that all it had to do was strike a deal with Germany to hold the EU over a barrel.
What a clusterf*ck that turned out to be.
Once the UK (finally) leaves, Brexit will not be over and the EU will continue to have Ireland's back. This is because it is what the small nations of Europe (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Malta, Cyprus, Croatia, Slovenia, Luxembourg) expect from the bloc - that the EU should stand up to threats to the interests of smaller members by the British, the Russians or the United States. The EU is very good at it. That's one of the reasons for the existence of the bloc, not that a Brexiter would understand that.
They will be behind Ireland when the UK returns to seek a deal with the EU in the future. And you will.
The tax issue is another area I am better informed in than you. Taxation is a matter for individual states, and Ireland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and Sweden are in alliance against the EUs proposals. In the end there will be a compromise, as there always is in the EU, something the British seem to hate.
Certainly, there has been no drop off in FDI into Ireland since the tax issue emerged, unless you are claiming to know more about the intentions of Intel, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, Google and all the rest. As a Brexiter, you probably do make this claim.
Post-Brexit, Ireland remains ideally placed to eat the UKs lunch as the only English speaking member of the EU, providing a gateway into the European Union for American, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand FDI. Ireland has considerable soft power in the United States, being the closest friend of the White House within the EU and having a considerable Irish-American diaspora whose ancestors escaped famine with a bitterness for the British. It is also the sixth biggest investor into the United States, which impresses the moron in the White House.
Brexiters are bitter little toe-rags, as you demonstrate. You may have no consideration for Ireland, but we will continue to defend our sovereign national interest regarding Brexit. The UK has overplayed its hand, failed to understand how the EU operates and is led by donkeys.
Ireland is a confident country and benefits from consensus about Brexit - something the UK can only dream about - and it knows how to use its sovereignty effectively. Ireland also has the weight and power of 26 other nations behind it.
Enjoy your deal-free Brexit and all that WTO it brings to you. Your trade deal with the US will be blocked by Congress if there is a hard border in Ireland.
Its your remainers I feel sorry for.
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