Comments by "Khronogi" (@Khronogi) on "LegalEagle"
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I've given thoughts to this as well, and it might actually be trumps plan here.
What better way to bolster support than by starting a war, and if you are trying to push the fact that you are anti-war, then you need someone to start a war against you. I think the president is hoping that people escalate and attack the federal troops so he can justify himself and escalate even farther, and might fortify his position as being the person who can bring this to an end, ie protect the citizens. He will say the liberals and democrats dont care about security and will say that biden wont be able to or wont be willing to stop the violent rioters. trumps current advertising spending suggests this as well, as I think $20million was spent on his 'defund the police' ads.
He's fear-mongering as an attempt to drive the insecure towards him. You can see this in his supporters in these threads. A lot of them are justifying the feds being there because 'the liberals wont do anything against the violent hordes.' We know this line to be wrong on several levels. We know that the majority of the protestors are not violent, and only a very small number of them are. Yet we still see people calling them riots. Yes, people have caused property damage, and some have broken into stores to steal stuff amongst the confusion. A smart person would coordinate /WITH/ the protestors and make arrangements for bad actors, while also supporting the protest.
My city, while it didn't deal with everything perfectly, made the judgment not to make arrests the night its' stores were broken into. Why? Because they had thousands of videos of the people doing these things, and decided to pursue arrests after the case. Instead, on the night this happened, they moved people away from the affected areas and allowed them to protest through the night. The following nights the police had already established fences in the area and even talked to protestors who were there. The president is absolutely horrible at pr, even if he pretends to be great with getting attention. Not to mention he's horrible at actually leading.
One thing I've noticed is that the president likes to create a problem so he can 'fix' it. He enraged north korea so he could 'calm them down'. He broke the Iran nuclear deal so he could say Iran is dangerous and making nukes. He created a trade war so he could 'fix' it.
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justaperson & the Lost Farmstead
You two have to realize that he is not being impeached because of who he is, he is being impeached for what he has done. If Hillary was elected president and she did the same things, I would want her impeached as well. The political ideology is not the reason the president is being impeached.
You must also realize that this is not a 'team battle', it is not Republican vs Democrat, it is not Liberal vs Conservative. That style of thinking is not only incredibly disruptive to our democracy, it is also straight out of the Russian playbook. If you cannot defeat your enemy, you make them defeat themselves. Remember the pledge of allegiance, 'United we stand, divided we fall.' That is still a thing. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, and everyone else are on the same team. Please do not let anyone distract you from that fact. Anyone who does is goading you.
So we can analyze the /facts/, and yes they are facts. This isn't a case of people making up sensationalist headlines in order to generate views. These facts have been corroborated by government officials and the Whitehouse itself.
Fact: The President of the United States of America sought to use congressionally approved money and resources in order to make the President of Ukraine launch an investigation into his political rival.
The 'transcript' released by the Whitehouse shows the conversation in which the President essentially attempts to extort Ukraine into investigating his political rival.
The sheer act of him ASKING Ukraine to do such a thing is against the law. Using congressional money as leverage is just another nail in the coffin.
Fact: The President has continually obstructed the investigation into these events. (This is illegal)
Fact: The President has intimidated witnesses of the investigation. (This is illegal)
Fact: The President has admitted that he would use foreign nations in order to gain potential dirt on political rivals. (Doing so is illegal)
These are all facts, they aren't there to be argued about. These things happened, we know they happened.
The President is showing us that he believes that is he above the law.
The question becomes now:
Are these things allowable for a President to do?
Is the President above the law?
What do we do if the President does something he absolutely should not be doing?
So if you think about it this way, instead of believing that people want the president impeached because they disagree with his policies, you can now start to believe that people want him impeached because he has betrayed America. Also, keep in mind, this doesn't even approach all of the other misconduct the man has done throughout his life, nor the rest of his presidency.
So my question to both of you (and anyone else that still supports the president) would be:
Do you think the President should be above the law?
And if you do: Do you realize that makes him a dictator?
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