Comments by "Austin Kole Carlisle" (@AustinKoleCarlisle) on "World of Antiquity" channel.

  1.  @WorldofAntiquity  there's still time to get on the right side of history, here. nobody will judge you for changing your mind, but we WILL judge you for refusing to acknowledge reality.
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  2.  @mrjones2721  none of the replication attempts have reproduced the same level of precision. until they achieve that, you can't use their efforts as proof of reproduction because if you can't reproduce the most difficult element of something, then it's not a true reproduction.
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  3.  @emmitstewart1921  yep. all those used up saws and drill bits, but not one of them was ever physically found in the archeological record.
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  4.  @varyolla435  if we cannot prove this is how the ancients made these vases, then how is it the official explanation? Ben is simply asking people to show their work because THEIR claims seem improbable at face value.
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  5. cutting logs does not equal stone. but i wouldn't expect less from channels that rely on intellectually dishonest arguments such as this. three conditions need to be met in order to be considered a true reproduction: scale (size), quality (material hardness, etc), and precision (the degree of detail). this theory meets none of those conditions.
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  6.  @WorldofAntiquity  so you're just speculating then. and poorly, at that.
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  7.  @WorldofAntiquity  because if the official story cannot be backed by evidence, how can they claim that's how it happened?
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  8.  @WorldofAntiquity  so you're in agreement with me that we don't know how these ancient vases were made, right?
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  9.  @WorldofAntiquity  if you don't know, then say you don't know. you can't make a claim about something like this without strict, experimental science backing it.
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  10.  @San_Vito  if they can't do it, then you can't claim the vase has been reproduced. this is basic logic.
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  11.  @WorldofAntiquity  every culture all over the world seemingly decided "to go with smaller blocks" overtop of megalithic stonework? that doesn't make sense, surely there would still be one culture creating megalithic stonework, but every example we see of it is always on the bottom, always underneath inferior work, never over top of cruder work.
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  12.  @Eye_of_Horus  ah yes, it all boils down to "dating", which is problematic because stonework cannot be dated, we can only date the culture that occupied at a given time. and the argument isn't that those different cultures you mentioned existed in different times, nobody is denying that. what we're arguing is how it's assumed those cultures created the stonework and not simply inherited it. you also keep ignoring the sheer coincidence of separate cultures developing three-dimensionally curving stonework that we could not even replicate today without computer aided machinery. and anywhere it's found on earth amongst other styles of stonework, it's ALWAYS located below inferior, cruder stonework. neither you nor the channel owner can address this topic, you keep avoiding the elephant in the room. that's why i keep pushing you into this corner, because it's obvious to anyone reading that neither of you have any answers.
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  13. the whole point is the vase displays modern precision while having handles that would've complicated the production process beyond just lathe work, yet they still achieved modern precision between the handles.
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  14.  @WorldofAntiquity  so freaking what dude? would that somehow invalidate the evidence he presents? just go ahead and label him a racist and be done with the conversation, i just KNOW that's what you're waiting on doing, when the opportunity presents itself, that way you don't have to think and back up your failed beliefs.
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  15.  @Leeside999  the only people claiming these vases could be made using primitive tools is your side. the burden of proof is on your side. sorry, that's how arguments work. if you can't substantiate your claim, then please refrain from using it in an argument.
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  16.  @WorldofAntiquity  you'll find every reason to not reach out to him directly, i have no doubt.
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  17.  @Eyes_Open  nobody said anything about perfect symmetry. that's why the concept of TOLERANCE is heavily stressed in the videos about the vases
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  18.  @Leeside999  please provide a timestamp where Ben claims these statues or vases are perfect in every way.
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  19.  @emmitstewart1921  and the copper quickly wears down in the process, using up just as much as the stone it erodes.
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  20.  @WorldofAntiquity  it's in the pursuit of truth. you're just in the pursuit of debunking someone. hardly objective.
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  21. ​ @Eyes_Open ​the proof that these can't be made with simple tools is Olga's videos.
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  22.  @Eyes_Open  so you're claiming that primitive methods can create these precision vases? yet we don't have any examples of someone reproducing them to the same precision, so why do you feel the need to believe in something not backed by experimental science?
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  23.  @Eyes_Open  but simple methods CAN'T make these precision objects because nobody has come forth and recreated them. you keep saying it's possible but you haven't proven it so.
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  24.  @WorldofAntiquity  no, academia and Egyptologists made the claim that precision ancient vases (that we can clearly see in museum display cases) were made by hand using primitive methods--it's up to them to prove it's possible. if they can't do it, then just admit we don't know how it was done.
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  25.  @WorldofAntiquity  the original claim by Egyptologists is that we know how it was done. we DON'T. don't hate on people who demand others show their work.
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  26.  @WorldofAntiquity  if known primitive methods cannot explain how ALL THE VASES were made, then it's not a good explanation. remember, if a theory cannot explain ALL THE EVIDENCE then it's not a sufficient theory, is it?
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  27.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  precision is an object measured against itself. it doesn't matter if we don't know what the creator was attempting, we're still left with precision in granite across many different geometric relationships that simply couldn't be possible with the tools of the time.
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  28.  @WorldofAntiquity  the scan data is open source. and the metrology report is available online.
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  29.  @darklight2.1  i'm sorry, but Egyptologists/academia are the ones who made the claim that these vessels were made using primitive methods, yet nobody has been able to reproduce vases with this level of precision. if they can't substantiate their claim, then it's not a sufficient explanation for how these were created. it's not illegal for them to say "we don't know how these vases were made".
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  30. precision isn't art, though. precision almost always has a function.
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  31.  @MrAchile13  i can guarantee you it's not symmetric
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  32.  @MrAchile13  although "symmetric" by eye, i'm willing to bet high resolution scanning would show it's not machine-level precise like Ben's vase is. it doesn't matter anyway, this sarcophagus is from the 19th century, made with the best 19th century technology of the time, and precision only comes about from the industrial standards of the time. the fact that a vase displays current machining standards 5000 years ago should tell you that something was going on that we do not understand yet.
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  33.  @MrAchile13  These stone vessels were made in the Oldest Kingdoms, and later Egyptian efforts could never recreate them. It wasn't until 1000s of years later that humanity could even get close to recreating these vases. That's kind of the opposite of what you claim. And why do you discount the precision of these vases? Nobody has been able to fully recreate them with the same level of precision--not just an approximation.
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  34.  @WorldofAntiquity  Well, you have to admit it is quite a coincidence that we find stone construction all over the world with a similar style oftentimes including curious nubs, the the stones themselves being quite large, but not always...AND this style is always the bottommost layer anywhere it is found. combine this with the fact that this style is not today leads one to believe that either the technology or knowhow was lost in time, or it was one big coincidence....what do you think?
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  35.  @WorldofAntiquity  then why can't we recreate these walls today with razor-tight joints going the entire depth of the mating surfaces? this building style is clearly more advanced than the Incan repair work we see on the top layers at Machu Picchu, for instance. you also believe the typical inclusion of knobs on these walls is merely a coincidence, when we don't find that feature at all on later work literally anywhere on earth?
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  36.  @WorldofAntiquity  the fact remains that you simply hand-wave away the points I raised, as if all that i brought forward is simply explainable and commonplace..
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  37. you realize that's slander, right?
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  38.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  the only people "unwilling to look through the telescope" are the ones who don't want more of these vases analyzed.
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  39.  @WorldofAntiquity  an "academic" is honestly comparing shooting a basketball to making a precision granite vase with handles? tell me my good man, if these are so easy to "fake" then where are all the fakes? these things can go for upwards of $100,000 on the secondary market.
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  40. I'm curious, what's going to be your excuse when we get the results of multiple scanned vases that show equal if not greater precision than the original vase?
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  41.  @WorldofAntiquity  so far, nobody has been able to reproduce a granite vase with handles & the same precision.
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  42.  @WorldofAntiquity  so you're saying these precision vases couldn't have been made using primitive methods?
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  43. how DARE he try to scan more vases using the only means he has. what a "grifter", amirite?
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  44.  @jellyrollthunder3625  the only thing you all can point to is provenance, which really is a secondary issue to the topic of precision.
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  45.  @jellyrollthunder3625  why are you faulting him for showing evidence proving his hypothesis? that's literally what you asked for.
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  46.  @Eyes_Open  except they don't replicate the precision of what we see on these ancient artifacts. the marble vase replication attempt was a joke. still waiting on the making of that diorite vase...lol.
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  47.  @Eyes_Open  good thing the conversation isn't whether a vase can be carved out of stone using primitive means. Ben's ENTIRE VIDEO is about PRECISION.
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  48.  @Leeside999  where are all of these copper chisels you speak of? are they here with us now? can you point to one? show me on the globe where the copper chisel touched you.
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  49.  @WorldofAntiquity  PRECISION. why do you keep ignoring that fact? nobody is saying the ancients couldn't make stone vases, we're talking about PRECISE STONE VASES.
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  50.  @N8Dulcimer  please post a link. imagine the stuff they don't display? detractors act like everything that's found is displayed, i'm more interested in the stuff that they refuse to show.
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