Comments by "Austin Kole Carlisle" (@AustinKoleCarlisle) on "World of Antiquity" channel.

  1.  @Leeside999  by all means, please focus on the one erroneous statement as opposed to the elephant in the room. you're reaching.
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  2.  @Leeside999  is this going to be the perpetual coping mechanism going forward? you realize you're standing on the edge of the proverbial rabbit hole of psychological distress if you continue finding excuses for denying the reality that we live in. try to keep up.
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  3.  @WorldofAntiquity  Prove you made an offer in good faith.
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  4.  @Leeside999  why should he engage in debate with people who constantly use ad hominems?
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  5.  @Devilboy689yoblived  Brilliant! Just brilliant, my man. This was an education I was certainly not expecting today. Thank you so much, and keep up the good fight. By the way, I don't have anyone else to talk about this stuff with, either. I'd like to run some things by you that I've worked on over the years but eventually came to a standstill. It's regarding special relativity and this subject, I think you might have touched on the missing link I've been looking for in regards to a unified theory of physics.
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  6.  @Leeside999  why the concentrated effort to sow discord surrounding this subject? I mean I don't see people trying to convince me the moon isn't made of cheese, despite me never going there personally. we haven't conclusively ruled out it existed, so it's best to keep an open mind.
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  7.  @San_Vito  sounds like you're suggesting lost ancient technology then. to that i can say the advanced machines that made these artifacts ALSO rusted away. i don't need evidence for my claims, right?
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  8.  @WorldofAntiquity  i beg to differ. academia's official explanation for how these precision vases were made cannot be backed up with experimental science.
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  9.  @Leeside999  his channel is dedicated to "debunking" people as opposed to actually pursuing the truth.
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  10.  @varyolla435  if academia didn't claim that these vases were created using primitive means, then you'd have a point. but as it stands, they made the claim, so they need to substantiate it. if they cannot reasonably do that, then they need to say "we don't know how these were made". don't get mad at Ben for calling them out for not showing their work.
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  11.  @varyolla435  appeal to authority...nice. so if academia says so, it must be true. i'm guessing you would've believed the phrenology stuff 100 years ago, or you would've believed the Earth was the center of the universe, right? consensus of opinion equals fact, right? pathetic.
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  12.  @WorldofAntiquity  The sea level has risen 400 ft in just over 15,000 years. That covered up a LOT of ancient sites, without a doubt. So why is it outside the realm of possibility that an ancient civilization could have existed along these old coastlines?
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  13.  @WorldofAntiquity  Do you know something we don't as to why the topic of Atlantis is off-limits?
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  14.  @WorldofAntiquity  Sure...until then, it's just air.
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  15.  @Eyes_Open  except the argument isn't whether a vase can be made using primitive means. that's called a strawman fallacy. the argument is whether the ancients could make these PRECISION vases using known primitive methods.
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  16. what would it matter to you, anyway? you'd just conclude it took more time and slave labor to achieve.
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  17.  @Leeside999  sure they did. they also did it in a controlled scientific environment huh? get back to me once they write up a peer-reviewed paper on their accomplishments.
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  18.  @Leeside999  are you suggesting the open-source light-scans aren't legit?
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  19.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  no my friend. Egyptologists made the claim that these precision vases were created using known primitive methods. they made the claim first. they need to back up that claim with evidence. don't get mad at people like Ben who demand to see evidence for a claim. the burden of proof isn't on him because he didn't make the claim.
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  20.  @WorldofAntiquity  but your side makes the claim to know how these were done, despite never showing how it was done.
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  21.  @WorldofAntiquity  so you're claiming we don't know how they were done, then. we're in agreement.
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  22.  @WorldofAntiquity  nice deflect, bro. research is never done for any topic. science is always evolving, keep up or get out if you can't take it.
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  23.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  none of the Etsy granite vases I've seen have handles.
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  24.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  i mean if you have examples, then please post them. thanks.
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  25.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  but you're the one that made the claim. you may as well have said "they exist on earth". yeah, that literally does me no good if you can't provide a direct link to something you say exists. sorry but if you can't back up a claim, then don't make it, it's a simple concept.
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  26. Please address this elephant in the room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FxP5_QyrnQ&t=560s Razor-tight, machined joints on multi-100 ton stones part of the foundation at Baalbek.
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  27.  @WorldofAntiquity  This wasn't Roman construction. The joints look machined. Did you even watch the video? I linked to the example at hand.
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  28.  @WorldofAntiquity  now understand that the entire mating surface of the joint is razor-thin all the way through, and this is done on all of the base work including the trilithon stones which weigh 1000 tons, but this feature isn't present on the Roman style work above it. don't you think that is a little odd?
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  29.  @WorldofAntiquity  there are imperfections in the stone faces, but the mating surfaces (of the base stones) are indeed perfect, from what i've seen. perhaps you can link me to the imperfections you see? remember, the inferior Roman construction on top is not the discussion, we're talking about the foundation stones.
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  30.  @San_Vito  well someone had to make the "forgeries" right?
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  31.  @WorldofAntiquity  your channel is fringe because it doesn't even create content.
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  32.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  what part of precision don't you understand? if you watched the video, you'd realize the conversation was about precision, not whether ancient people could carve a vase.
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  33.  @WorldofAntiquity  because they made the false claims. nobody held a gun up to their heads and forced them to say these precision granite vases were made using primitive methods, yet they made the claim not backed by any evidence. that makes them unscientific and dogmatic and they deserve to be called out for not substantiating their claims.
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  34.  @Eyes_Open  we don't have all the answers. are you suggesting we do?
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  35.  @WorldofAntiquity  if you were correct, then the market would be flooded with these things at $100 a piece. but, unfortunately that isn't the case and they are harder and harder to come by.
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  36.  @WorldofAntiquity  making reproductions is illegal?
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  37.  @joqqeman  but experts determine what is a Rembrandt. Experts should be able to tell a forgery vessel from the real thing.
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  38.  @Leeside999  vases with provenance have been scanned, and we'll see the results soon. is that good enough?
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  39.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  what's your excuse going to be when more vases are scanned and they all come back with equal if not greater precision than the original vase? what then? because it's going to happen and you better be ready.
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  40.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  You didn't answer the question. And he is going to have vases with provenance analyzed. What then? What's the talking point going to be?
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  41.  @NinjaMonkeyPrime  Well sure, you have to have an idea of what you're going to say if these vases turn out to be as precise as the original vase. That some vases may not turn out as precise as the original doesn't discredit the original OR the other vases that are scanned and are just as precise. What are you going to say when the results of these vases are released and some of them are just as precise if not moreso than the original vase? Or are you waiting to be told what to say? Just wondering.
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  42.  @MrAchile13  What is your excuse going to be when the other vase scan results show them being as precise if not more precise than the original vase? What is the group consensus talking point going to be then? I love watching goalposts change, it fuels my soul.
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  43.  @MrAchile13  ah yes, the "it exists therefore it exists" argument. let's not focus on HOW they achieved machine like precision tolerances that weren't able to be measured until the 19th century...let's just look the other way, right?
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  44.  @MrAchile13  You have to start somewhere my friend. Are you implying this endeavor shouldn't be undertaken? I, along with Ben et al, would LOVE for many ancient vases from museums to be scanned. And if no other vases have been scanned, like you said, how can you say the later Egyptians replicated these precision "Old Kingdom" vases 3000 years later? Yes, they made vases out of alabaster, etc, but none were visually as precise as the ones Ben focuses on.
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  45.  @MrAchile13  perhaps you have difficulty understanding precision? nobody is denying that anyone at anytime in history could make something visually precise, but to make something MACHINE level precise (over many different dimensions, not just flatness) requires precision machines and tools in order to maintain tolerance of how much material has been removed and how much is left. the fact that we find these characteristics in a vase that is supposedly 5000 years old deserves all the investigation and study we can afford to throw at it, let alone toward other ancient vases who display extreme precision. We'll find out who's right in due time.
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  46.  @carriekelly4186  so they were supposedly really advanced, but their technology never improved over 1000s of years?
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  47.  @MrAchile13  yet none of them were able to recreate the precision granite vases from the oldest Kingdoms?
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  48. you've never created a computer from scratch. promptly turn it off and go live with the Amish.
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  49.  @Itsjustme-Justme  well, that's why Ben includes expert viewpoints in his videos.
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  50.  @WorldofAntiquity  who said anything about perfect? you claim the precision vases can be recreated. they HAVE NOT been recreated to the same level of precision so you cannot claim they have been recreated.
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