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@ah5836 There is an awful lot but here you go. You asked for it
Just a bit of history about ukraine, pre maidan. 80 odd years of russification has to be taken into account. From stalin times through the soviet era up to 1991. Thats why russian culture/language etc was and still is to a degree, ingrained into ukranian culture. In 1991 ukraine voted 92% to leave the union with russia. All the oblasts and regions voted in favour including crimea and the donbas region. Ukraine then followed a similar route as yeltsins russia with attempts at fast tracking democracy and western style capitalism. The lack of legal accountability though ended up with oligarch corruption in both countries. Putin then took over around 2000 in russia. He, amongst many ex soviet hardliners, never recognised that 1991 vote and so set out to return a form of russian domination on all of its former soviet states that had left during the break up of the ussr.
Putins attempts in ukraine began politically with yanukovych in the elections of 2004. His state funded tv media had begun its propaganda methods, not only in russia, but in all the border areas of its former soviet states, including ukraine. Pro russian olgarchs were also financing and involved in it all too. Yanukovych won the 2004 election but claims of corruption created a massive demonstration in kiev. The orange revolution as it became known then forced a rerun of the election after ukraines highest court ruled that there was indeed electoral corruption. His "poisoned" opponent victor yushchenko winning the rerun comfortably. He was pro west/democracy and in power for 5 years up till 2010. Attempted to join NATO along with georgia, but germany and france vetoed their application as they wanted a more economically friendly relationship with putin instead. He also began preliminary negotiations for ukraine to join the EU.
In 2010 yanukovych won a close run election that was deemed fair by international observers. His 3 years saw the NATO bid scrapped altogether. Increasing oppression of his political opponents. The constitution changed to help that oppression. The jailing of his main political opponent yulia tymoshenko. And the most fateful decision of all to scrap the proposed union with the EU for one with the very country the people voted 92% to leave in 1991.
So not surprisingly the ukranian people werent having any of that so another revolution started late in 2013. This time called the revolution of dignity or maidan.
It began peacefully at first but as the police became more hardline in their approach the numbers demonstrating and the violence grew. Yanukovych, as you would expect from a putin clone, sent in his special police berkut unit to open fire on unarmed demonstrators. 120 died with thousands injured. No way could he survive that bloodbath. He fled, and the folowing morning the duma reformed and voted to strip him of his power and arranged a new election which petro poroshenko later won. The constitution was reinstated and tymoshenko released. Evidence was also found of voting corruption in his abandoned palace casting doubt on his earlier election win.
Since Maidan putin has adopted a much more extreme military approach to achieve that original objective. Culminating in february 22 last year.
Minsk 2015....The 3 (of the 13) points in the minsk agreement putin refused to recognise.
4. To start a dialogue on interim self-government for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, in accordance with Ukrainian law, and acknowledge their special status by parliamentary resolution.
9. Restoration of full control of the state border by the government of Ukraine.
10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment and mercenaries.
Plus the biggest peace deal game breaker of course......invading the very nation the peace deasl was with, and with it a UN recognised sovereign nation.
But of course he doesnt recognise them as a sovereign nation. Which is 100% the reason why he and his fascist/nationalist imperialist supporters want to kill democratic ukraine, especially the democratic bit. He wants to renew his love in again with his beloved ussr. Dictators in search of lost empires. Mussolini, hitler and now putin.
Ukro nazis and azov......Just 2% voted far right in ukraines last election 2019 with no mps elected. Zelensky is jewish and his party is liberal left leaning. Poroshenkos party is pro eu and centrish. Both have won elections on anti corruption tickets.
The private azov militia group were de politicised long ago and are now led and incorporated into the professional ukranian army. Their former leader/founder stood in that last election and got knowhere. A better description of them here...
Commanders now are regular UAF Officers who were assigned to command after the SNP political leadership was removed. Out the 73 founders of Azov in Kharkhiv. Only 14 were from the SNP. The Myth of Nazi Azov was just that, a myth promulgated by the RuZZ Fascists & their Red Fascist Stalinist Allies. Most of Azov were originally formed by Football Ultras & grew from Kharkhiv to include Ultras from many of the FC's of east & south. Yes a large Minority of the Ultras had been affiliated to various Far Right outfits but not all. A large Minority also came from Far Left Outfits as well as Anarchists. All those Ultras used to fight each other ...now they fight side by in Azov. Azov grew beyond the Ultras too though as many non-Political & non-Ultra civilian volunteers joined Azov after invasion & it grew from Battalion size to Regiment. Also some existing regular soldiers were transferred in, new recruits to UAF also were added to build it to Brigade size. Azov now is nothing like Azov of 2014.
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@paulweber212 Oh you want some as well. OK here you go.
Putins special military disaster has never been about NATO expansion or ukranian nazis committing genocide on ethnic russians. It has always been about russian expansion/imperialism. Evidence of this was given just a few days into the invasion, 28th february when a propaganda article was released early in error.
The Kremlin’s propaganda publication RIA-Novosti accidentally published an article that was to be published after the rapid regime change in Ukraine. It was quickly removed, but the Internet Archive web service managed to save it. It was written by kremlin propagandist petr akopov......Sorry about the length but it wont let me use a link.
A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia’s military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era – in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system – but this is worth talking about separately a little later.
Russia is restoring its unity; the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians.
If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia out of Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.
The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kyiv), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that “only Ukraine is the real Rus,” or to gnash one’s teeth helplessly, remembering the times when “we lost Ukraine.” Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade – recoding, de-Russification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum. And in the event of the consolidation of the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine, its return to Russia would become completely impossible – we would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.
Now this problem is gone – Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state as a part of the Russian world. Within what boundaries, in what form will the alliance with Russia be consolidated (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.
Here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia’s relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in the geopolitical dimension as a whole. These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe. And it is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul it must admit that it could not be otherwise.
Did anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kyiv? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, they had to be just geopolitical fools.
More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. However, the fact that it did not work should have been clear twenty years ago. Moreover, already fifteen years ago, after Putin’s Munich speech, even the deaf could hear – Russia is returning.
Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of the western space to the east. Seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. However, this has not been the case for a long time already – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No amount of Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. Losses from the sublimation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. Nevertheless, for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation incurs huge costs – and the main ones are not at all economic.
Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration does not make strategic sense while maintaining the Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. Moreover, it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. However, Europe needs autonomy for another reason as well — in case the States go into self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.
The confrontation with Russia, into which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives the Europeans of even the chances of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way Europe is trying to impose a break with China. If now the Atlanticists are happy that the “Russian threat” will unite the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot fail to understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose age (more precisely, half a millennium) of global leadership is over in any case – but various options for its future are still possible.
Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization. The multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well – this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia’s return of its historical space and its place in the world.
China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia – no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules.
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@TN-ju4ro Proxy war? Historical facts? History lesson required.
Just a bit of history about ukraine, pre maidan. 80 odd years of russification has to be taken into account. From stalin times through the soviet era up to 1991. Thats why russian culture/language etc was and still is to a degree, ingrained into ukranian culture. In 1991 ukraine voted 92% to leave the union with russia. All the oblasts and regions voted in favour including crimea and the donbas region. Ukraine then followed a similar route as yeltsins russia with attempts at fast tracking democracy and western style capitalism. The lack of legal accountability though ended up with oligarch corruption in both countries. Putin then took over around 2000 in russia. He, amongst many ex soviet hardliners, never recognised that 1991 vote and so set out to return a form of russian domination on all of its former soviet states that had left during the break up of the ussr.
Putins attempts in ukraine began politically with yanukovych in the elections of 2004. His state funded tv media had begun its propaganda methods, not only in russia, but in all the border areas of its former soviet states, including ukraine. Pro russian olgarchs were also financing and involved in it all too. Yanukovych won the 2004 election but claims of corruption created a massive demonstration in kiev. The orange revolution as it became known then forced a rerun of the election after ukraines highest court ruled that there was indeed electoral corruption. His "poisoned" opponent victor yushchenko winning the rerun comfortably. He was pro west/democracy and in power for 5 years up till 2010. Attempted to join NATO along with georgia, but germany and france vetoed their application as they wanted a more economically friendly relationship with putin instead. He also began preliminary negotiations for ukraine to join the EU.
In 2010 yanukovych won a close run election that was deemed fair by international observers. His 3 years saw the NATO bid scrapped altogether. Increasing oppression of his political opponents. The constitution changed to help that oppression. The jailing of his main political opponent yulia tymoshenko. And the most fateful decision of all to scrap the proposed union with the EU for one with the very country the people voted 92% to leave in 1991.
So not surprisingly the ukranian people werent having any of that so another revolution started late in 2013. This time called the revolution of dignity or maidan.
It began peacefully at first but as the police became more hardline in their approach the numbers demonstrating and the violence grew. Yanukovych, as you would expect from a putin clone, sent in his special police berkut unit to open fire on unarmed demonstrators. 120 died with thousands injured. No way could he survive that bloodbath. He fled, and the folowing morning the duma reformed and voted to strip him of his power and arranged a new election which petro poroshenko later won. The constitution was reinstated and tymoshenko released. Evidence was also found of voting corruption in his abandoned palace casting doubt on his earlier election win.
Since Maidan putin has adopted a much more extreme military approach to achieve that original objective. Culminating in february 22 last year.
.......As for the proxy war and victoria nuland. Was she involved in the 2004 orange revolution as well?
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@blackdiamond6077 Various european media archive websites.
Ukraine is not the only country with neo nazi groups. Looking at you russia.
Churchill has a statue and roads named after him and he is now a war criminal to some.
From a website after googling russian propaganda spending. Site that debunks disinfo.
The west doesnt annex territory tho does it. The "war on terror" after 9/11 and other terror attacks on western civilisation isnt meddlng. Its called national security or the protection of a countrys citizens. Bit like putin did to the chechnyan rebels after beslan and other attacks on his people. Although not as brutally.
As for putin the imperialist. Here you go confirming it. Got this from your own propaganda cock up. Pity it got released early.....All available online.
Putins special military disaster has never been about NATO expansion or ukranian nazis committing genocide on ethnic russians. It has always been about russian expansion/imperialism. Evidence of this was given just a few days into the invasion, 28th february when a propaganda article was released early in error.
The Kremlin’s propaganda publication RIA-Novosti accidentally published an article that was to be published after the rapid regime change in Ukraine. It was quickly removed, but the Internet Archive web service managed to save it. It was written by kremlin propagandist petr akopov......Sorry about the length but it wont let me use a link.
A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia’s military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era – in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system – but this is worth talking about separately a little later.
Russia is restoring its unity; the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians.
If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia out of Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.
The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kyiv), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that “only Ukraine is the real Rus,” or to gnash one’s teeth helplessly, remembering the times when “we lost Ukraine.” Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade – recoding, de-Russification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum. And in the event of the consolidation of the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine, its return to Russia would become completely impossible – we would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.
Now this problem is gone – Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state as a part of the Russian world. Within what boundaries, in what form will the alliance with Russia be consolidated (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.
Here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia’s relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in the geopolitical dimension as a whole. These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe. And it is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul it must admit that it could not be otherwise.
Did anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kyiv? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, they had to be just geopolitical fools.
More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. However, the fact that it did not work should have been clear twenty years ago. Moreover, already fifteen years ago, after Putin’s Munich speech, even the deaf could hear – Russia is returning.
Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of the western space to the east. Seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. However, this has not been the case for a long time already – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No amount of Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. Losses from the sublimation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. Nevertheless, for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation incurs huge costs – and the main ones are not at all economic.
Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration does not make strategic sense while maintaining the Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. Moreover, it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. However, Europe needs autonomy for another reason as well — in case the States go into self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.
The confrontation with Russia, into which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives the Europeans of even the chances of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way Europe is trying to impose a break with China. If now the Atlanticists are happy that the “Russian threat” will unite the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot fail to understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose age (more precisely, half a millennium) of global leadership is over in any case – but various options for its future are still possible.
Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization. The multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well – this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia’s return of its historical space and its place in the world.
China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia – no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules.
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The 3 (of the 13) points in the minsk agreement putin refused to recognise.
4. To start a dialogue on interim self-government for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, in accordance with Ukrainian law, and acknowledge their special status by parliamentary resolution.
9. Restoration of full control of the state border by the government of Ukraine.
10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment and mercenaries.
Plus the biggest peace deal game breaker of course......invading the very nation the peace deasl was with, and with it a UN recognised sovereign nation.
But of course he doesnt recognise them as a sovereign nation. Which is 100% the reason why he and his fascist/nationalist imperialist supporters want to kill democratic ukraine, especially the democratic bit. He wants to renew his love in again with his beloved ussr. Dictators in search of lost empires. Mussolini, hitler and now putin.
The 2014-22 genocide that this guy kept claiming was also the reason given by putin for the invasion. So its funny then that the UN monitors present on the frontline those 7 years after minsk never noticed any genocide. Its also funny how putin never raised this genocide at the UN during those 8 years either. It would have brought worldwide condemnation on ukraine. However he did broadcast it to his people through his propaganda to justify the invasion. Hiding from them his true purpose which was simple imperialism. Also nearly all the 14k that died, from both sides, happened during the violence that occured between maidan in early 2014 and the minsk agreement being signed in 2015.
Just a bit of history about ukraine, pre maidan. 80 odd years of russification has to be taken into account. From stalin times through the soviet era up to 1991. Thats why russian culture/language etc was and still is to a degree, ingrained into ukranian culture. In 1991 ukraine voted 92% to leave the union with russia. All the oblasts and regions voted in favour including crimea and the donbas region. Ukraine then followed a similar route as yeltsins russia with attempts at fast tracking democracy and western style capitalism. The lack of legal accountability though ended up with oligarch corruption in both countries. Putin then took over around 2000 in russia. He, amongst many ex soviet hardliners, never recognised that 1991 vote and so set out to return a form of russian domination on all of its former soviet states that had left during the break up of the ussr.
Putins attempts in ukraine began politically with yanukovych in the elections of 2004. His state funded tv media had begun its propaganda methods, not only in russia, but in all the border areas of its former soviet states, including ukraine. Pro russian olgarchs were also financing and involved in it all too. Yanukovych won the 2004 election but claims of corruption created a massive demonstration in kiev. The orange revolution as it became known then forced a rerun of the election after ukraines highest court ruled that there was indeed electoral corruption. His "poisoned" opponent victor yushchenko winning the rerun comfortably. He was pro west/democracy and in power for 5 years up till 2010. Attempted to join NATO along with georgia, but germany and france vetoed their application as they wanted a more economically friendly relationship with putin instead. He also began preliminary negotiations for ukraine to join the EU.
In 2010 yanukovych won a close run election that was deemed fair by international observers. His 3 years saw the NATO bid scrapped altogether. Increasing oppression of his political opponents. The constitution changed to help that oppression. The jailing of his main political opponent yulia tymoshenko. And the most fateful decision of all to scrap the proposed union with the EU for one with the very country the people voted 92% to leave in 1991.
So not surprisingly the ukranian people werent having any of that so another revolution started late in 2013. This time called the revolution of dignity or maidan.
It began peacefully at first but as the police became more hardline in their approach the numbers demonstrating and the violence grew. Yanukovych, as you would expect from a putin clone, sent in his special police berkut unit to open fire on unarmed demonstrators. 120 died with thousands injured. No way could he survive that bloodbath. He fled, and the folowing morning the duma reformed and voted to strip him of his power and arranged a new election which petro poroshenko later won. The constitution was reinstated and tymoshenko released. Evidence was also found of voting corruption in his abandoned palace casting doubt on his earlier election win.
Since Maidan putin has adopted a much more extreme military approach to achieve that original objective. Culminating in february 22 last year.
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