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"Who's they?" Quick, look at Jaime!
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The President of the U.S. is microdosing meth. It must be 2019.
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Why? To listen to him preach and bloviate?
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@docbeastpants Maybe he was the most important person to you and other Christians, but not to anyone outside of your religion. Muslims for example would say Mohammed was the most important person in history. Mormons would say Joseph Smith. See my point?
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Non-Christians really don't care if there was a historical Yeshua the gospels were based around or not. It really is irrelevant to people outside of the religion.
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Randy Porter Is your theory subject to change as well? Or does that train only run one way? 😉
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Randy Porter You should get up to date on the scholarship and the archaeology surrounding the Bible. The Patriarchs, Moses, Abraham etc. are considered fictional characters by any scholar worth their salt in the field. Same goes for the first Exodus, the Global Flood and the lightning invasion of Caanan. All are considered mythological by modern scholars.
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Here we go. Now which one of you is right?
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Can you blame him?
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Cody Dinsen You need to step up your trolling skills. They are terrible.
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Where is this evidence You speak of? I've been looking for over a decade and have yet to find anything outside of the Bible to support that the Yeshua od the gospels existed. There are extra-biblical records for half a dozen other apocalyptic preachers named Yeshua around that time, but not for the Jesus of the gospels.
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@vasecore7508 Way to back up your claims. Did your confidence drop that much that quickly?
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@BIGREDTECH I know what I'm talking about here because I've done more than a surface reading of the Bible. If you want context for the different books in the Bible you have to understand the early history of the Hebrews/Israelites and their specific circumstances during the time of writing for each book. "Satan" was not the name of an individual in the Hebrew Bible. The Christians came up with that later. You can look it up yourself if you don't believe me of course but here's a link I dug up for you. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-interpretation/who-is-satan/
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@BIGREDTECH and if you are really interested in understanding the "context" of the various books in the Hebrew Bible I wholeheartedly recommend the Yale Hebrew Bible course taught by Christine Hayes to anyone who seriously wants to understand the Bible and it's history. It is from 2006 I believe but there haven't been any major discoveries or updates to the scholarship since then that I'm aware of at least. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi
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@BIGREDTECH Thanks to you too for listening. Normally when I try to correct Christians about things in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament they don't even acknowledge it because they are so confident they already know everything there is to know, even though 9.5 times out of 10 they only know what their faith community or pastor or their favorite apologist told them. Also, the translation of "Lucifer" in the KJV is another problem. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer I promise I'm not trying to swamp you with links. 😄 It's just easier than having to type everything out when other people have already explained it better than I could.
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@rinwesley3092 Probably because it has nothing to do with what I was talking about. 😉 Also, because I live in the ultra-Conservative fundamentalist evangelical Christian state of Alabama and don't have to deal with whatever it is you are referring to. Hope that helps.
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@bmoneyrancidfan91 Then don't stop believing. Just don't be surprised that less and less people believe what you believe and don't mix your religion and politics.
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@bmoneyrancidfan91 Who has given you hate for your comment? I was being completely sincere. I live in central Alabama where it is roughly 90-98% Christian. I have a lot of sympathy for them but at the same time I have no respect for their beliefs or the way the churches are joined at the hip with the Republican party.
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@revo1974 The impact of the Christian religion is what I think you really mean. Not the man himself, if he even existed.
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Do you see what I mean? You and the other guy gave different answers. Then you "harmonized" them. My point is we have no way of knowing what his last words actually were, you are just doing guess-work.
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He's at least part of the reason the "nones" are outgrowing the religious. So I don't see how it is sad at all. 😁
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@vasecore7508 Ok, so enlighten everyone here. What did Pliny, Tacitus and Seutonius have to say about Jesus? You can copy/paste them here directly. I've read them all by the way, but because you are so confident I would love to see you give your case.
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@vasecore7508 Nice try kid but we can see through you. I'll make this simple. You made a claim. I asked you to support your claim. You refused and instead tried to shift the burden onto me. Because you refused to back up your claim there is no reason for anyone to take it seriously. Hope this helps.
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I'm 99.999% sure he is correct. A theist who believes in Yahweh or Allah can still be an atheist in regards to other gods like Zeus or Vishnu.
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Yeah, we can't do that in the U.S. because the Evangelical Christians are joined at the hip with the current Republican party and because of their strong religious convictions they think they have a god-given right to tell the rest of us how we should live. If they kept their beliefs to themselves instead of trying to impose them on everyone else you might have a point, but that is not the world we live in.
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Buuulllllllllllshit
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That is literally an argument from incredulity.
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@Stonktradomus Here's what I heard you say : "You can't tell me how the universe began so obviously I am justified in saying God done it because I can't think of anything else." Yup, all you have seems to be an argument from personal incredulity.
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@draytonholmes6319 Theism = Belief in a god or gods. A(non)theism = Lack of belief in a god or gods. It's really that simple. It is mostly dishonest Apologists who make claims about atheists being religious.
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In your hypothetical I would say "Because there wasn't any evidence I found convincing." Then if your god decided I deserved to be tortured for eternity because I didn't believe for lack of evidence... well he would just be a dick who doesn't deserve worship even if he did exist. Nothing I could do about it at that point.
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@synsynlol4315 The Gregorian calender last I checked. It is October 22nd, 2019 C.E.
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Just as incoherent as the teachings of Yeshua. I've got a question. What were Yeshua's last words before his death on the cross?
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You are still missing my point. You have no way of knowing anything he actually said. We only have books written later and if read in chronological order we can easily see the growth of the legend. The Jesus in Mark is not the same as the Jesus in Matthew, Luke, John or Paul's letters.
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Nothing you said about the disciples is relevant to me. Their is no evidence whatsoever that the disciples had any hand in writing the gospels. The gospels are anonymous, written in highly stylized Greek. The early church traditions are where we get the "The Gospel according to so-and-so" titles, not the texts themselves. I would encourage you to do what Bart Ehrman used to suggest. Read the gospels side by side and make notes of the similarities and the differences, instead of trying to harmonize them into one single gospel. Because that is not how they were written.
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@ChristianMission Nah, that's just how you see it. There is no extra-biblical record of the Yeshua from the gospels. The only information we have comes from religious texts and tradition. Which is odd because there are records of other apocalyptic preachers named Yeshua around the 1st Century. Even if there was. 100% rock solid evidence of that particular Yeshua existing as an actual flesh-and-blood man on earth it still couldn't prove he was the Superman the religion is based around. To non-Christians it really doesn't matter if he existed ot not. We still wouldn't be able to believe he walked on water and rose from the dead. It would still be silly to believe that just because it is written in a book.
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@jamesjones6867 I pointed out your bad grammar because it's bad grammar. Because it makes you look like a child who was never taught how to write properly. I'm sure you get it all the time and assume the problem is everyone else and not you right? 😉 You are still wrong no matter how many 😂 emojis you use. I've got a challenge for you. Link me to the Tacitus you are using as a reference and I'll break it down for you from there.
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@jbbudish I don't see how you could demonstrate your claim that "Christianity has been the guiding force for all of Western history since the fall of Rome." Have there been human beings born and raised as Christians ever since then? Yes. But you seem to be giving the religion credit for all of Western culture and so I'm curious. Do you give Christianity and Jesus sole credit for the Holy Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, Antebellum Slavery and the Holocaust as well? There were plenty of good God-fearing Christians involved in and orchestrating those events as well so surely you can put those at the feet of Jesus along with all the scientific discoveries he seems to have inspired.
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B T Oh wow. Coming from you that means a lot! 😉
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@vasecore7508 No problem
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Because in America at least, the Evangelical Christians are joined at the hip to one political party and think they have a god-given right to enfore their views on the rest of us.
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WLC is a charlatan. 😂
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Quoting the Bible is not a Jedi Mind Trick.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Who told you that?
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WLC is not a "serious" opposing view. His only trick is to define his god into existence. Armchair philosophy can be fun for the mind but it is useless for getting at the truth of whether or not a god exists. WLC would be a waste of Joe's time.
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@jam4350 I was raised Christian in Alabama. I call what WLC does a "trick" in the sense of him being a one-trick pony. All he has is armchair philosophy and that doesn't convince anyone who knows better. It's just a fun mental excercise that keeps him and many other Christians happy but does nothing to demostrate the truth of their claims.
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Wrong. A person can be a theist who believes in Yahweh or Allah and still be an atheist with regards to Zeus and Vishnu.
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I'm 99.999% sure he meant even theists who believe in Yahweh or Allah are still atheists with respect to Zeus and Vishnu.
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@matteswe You are nailing the bot language! Nice job!
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There was no Lucifer/Satan in the Hebrew Bible. It was a later Christian invention. The word "Satan" simply meant adversary and it's function, like in the book of Job, was to test God's creations with his permission. It wasn't a proper name and it never meant what Christians today think it did.
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@BIGREDTECH In Christian lore, sure. But that was a later invention of the Christians. The Hebrews did not have that concept.
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